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hippy132

hippy132

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seriously? Grounds are there to insure that the 110v AC does not create safety issue

,A ground wire is a wire that is literally connected to the earth. This wire acts as a backup wire in case a neutral wire fails. Without a ground wire, the risk of electrical shock becomes a viable possibility. Ground wires are usually green or yellow in color in order to differentiate between neutral wires and hot wires. Thus, it is easy to discern a ground wire from other wires.Each electrical circuit inside of a home has two types of wire: hot and neutral. Black wires are known as "hot" wires, and these wires carry electrical currents; hot wires may also be red in color. White wires carry electrical currents away from a device, and these wires are known as neutral wires.


When a white wire is broken, stray current is no longer carried away from a device, and neutralization is not possible without the help of a ground wire. In most instances, a ground wire is connected to a circuit breaker. When a neutral wire is no longer functional, the ground wire will trip the corresponding circuit breaker. When a circuit breaker has been activated, any electrical current is immediately stopped.

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staf82

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hippy132 said:
seriously? Grounds are there to insure that the 110v AC does not create safety issue

,A ground wire is a wire that is literally connected to the earth. This wire acts as a backup wire in case a neutral wire fails. Without a ground wire, the risk of electrical shock becomes a viable possibility. Ground wires are usually green or yellow in color in order to differentiate between neutral wires and hot wires. Thus, it is easy to discern a ground wire from other wires.Each electrical circuit inside of a home has two types of wire: hot and neutral. Black wires are known as "hot" wires, and these wires carry electrical currents; hot wires may also be red in color. White wires carry electrical currents away from a device, and these wires are known as neutral wires.


When a white wire is broken, stray current is no longer carried away from a device, and neutralization is not possible without the help of a ground wire. In most instances, a ground wire is connected to a circuit breaker. When a neutral wire is no longer functional, the ground wire will trip the corresponding circuit breaker. When a circuit breaker has been activated, any electrical current is immediately stopped.

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Never heard it like that before, an earth wire is quite often the same as a neatral but is only used if the (hot) live wire comes into contact with it. It has little resistance and will cause a surge which pulls more current causing the circuit breaker to trip. With LED lights you will find the case is earthed but thats it, this is in case a live wire touches the case so that it trips the power so you dont get a shock. The transformer in the light will prob only have a live and neutral so the earth wont affect it.
 
hippy132

hippy132

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staf82 said:
Never heard it like that before, an earth wire is quite often the same as a neatral but is only used if the (hot) live wire comes into contact with it. It has little resistance and will cause a surge which pulls more current causing the circuit breaker to trip. With LED lights you will find the case is earthed but thats it, this is in case a live wire touches the case so that it trips the power so you dont get a shock. The transformer in the light will prob only have a live and neutral so the earth wont affect it.
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Here, read this..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_and_neutral
 
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staf82

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It's all the technical talk that confuses people including me, but its really pretty simple stuff. I'm a spark so have an idea but either way I agree don't take the earth pin out lol
 
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dickkhead

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nice wej! I sent you an email did you get it? Im noticing my black stars are finishing the plants earlier then my solar storm have you noticed an increase in time under the BS?
 
kckid816

kckid816

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kckid816 said:
Just FYI, and being fair. Mike has answered my email and told me to send the panels to him (at my expense of course) for him to see what's wrong. I will update when he resolves the issue.
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Mike's had my panels for about 5 days now. On my 2nd email again. Keeping everyone posted.
 
hippy132

hippy132

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And you will get them back and try again, isn't that what we all did and continue to do,... after all how can it be the lites????
 
kckid816

kckid816

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hippy132 said:
And you will get them back and try again, isn't that what we all did and continue to do,... after all how can it be the lites????
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Once I get my replacement panels they're going on Ebay. I'm fucking done with this shit company and the fucking scam artist Mike.
 
Shwagbag

Shwagbag

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hippy132 said:
And you will get them back and try again, isn't that what we all did and continue to do,... after all how can it be the lites????
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I know I tinkered for way too long until I shelved them and bought another digi 600. They are still cranking my vegging plants though. They stretch a bit more but they're healthy and drink little.

Mike doesn't give a shit about the BBB, his business is already ruined strictly from word of mouth. Its the worst service I've ever had from any product I've ever purchased, and I'm an active consumer lol. I bet he smokes kush for breakfast and plays Xbox most of the day! After all, he only works 4 hours per day lol.
 
kckid816

kckid816

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PSUAGRO. said:
Sounds like you may need to threaten him with the BBB..........works for me
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Yea, just played that card. I'm also going to initiate fraud procedures against him with my credit card to try and get him blocked as a merchant. I will also start a campaign with Paypal too.

Also, I have a professional internet "marketer" that can automate message postings about his panels, his lack of support, and refusal to honor his warranty.
 
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Heretic

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Just an update... I have my 2 modified 290's on veg duty and they do indeed seem to be performing well. A couple weeks and good growth. No burning.
 
PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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kckid816 said:
Yea, just played that card. I'm also going to initiate fraud procedures against him with my credit card to try and get him blocked as a merchant. I will also start a campaign with Paypal too.

Also, I have a professional internet "marketer" that can automate message postings about his panels, his lack of support, and refusal to honor his warranty.
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I think Mike may have fucked with the wrong person^^^^:fire:...........looks like your right on track........good luck
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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kckid816 said:
Yea, just played that card. I'm also going to initiate fraud procedures against him with my credit card to try and get him blocked as a merchant. I will also start a campaign with Paypal too.

Also, I have a professional internet "marketer" that can automate message postings about his panels, his lack of support, and refusal to honor his warranty.
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Before I say anything, let me state I'm not affiliated with any LED companies, but I can speak from experience about the guys at Area 51.... If you'd like to have a pleasant customer service experience with complete disclosure and transparency, I'd at least give them a shout.... Ask them some questions, see if you like their responses. If my past experiences are any indication, they will completely inundate you with every piece of information possible about their products, LED's, drivers, heatsinks, and the selection processes they used to pick those specific parts, why they selected them, and the cost savings they can pass on to you because of those parts.

Again, don't take my word for it, I'm just some dude on the internet, send them a msg, make your own conclusions.... [email protected]
 
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