Trying to do all organic outdoor

Urhighness88

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What are the best all organic nutrients that produce the best product. And what would be the best soil. This is my first time growing so I'm not trying to break the bank.
 

Jack Harer

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Just HOW organic you wanna get? Personally, I'd amend your native soil. Compost, EWC, Bunny Poo, and if you are feeling particularly dedicated, Bio Char. You can get really bucolic and get out into the forest somewhere, find you a good patch of undisturbed forest floor and gently dig out about the top 6" or so of the leafy covering and use that humus as your compost. Find a bunny breeder and collect as much bunny poo as you can, and find a good source for EWC. Dig up the area and amend with these and you cant go wrong. The Bio Char will give you a small benefit in the first grow, but as you keep adding to the soil with each successive grow, the soil will become even more enriched, eventually becoming self sustaining. Or you could just go to www.espoma.com and take a look at their line up. The PlantTone, the BioTone Starter Plus and any of their other products are without a doubt the best bang I have ever gotten for my buck when purchasing nutes. And they are readily available most anywhere (In the US)
 

Urhighness88

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Well what's I was gonna do was use the empire soil and jus use that till bloom and use organic nutrients like iguana juice, big buds, sensizym, nirvana, and final phase.
 

rleezx

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big bud aint organic and adanved nutrients isnt really organic even if they try to claim to it is
 

Urhighness88

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How is that so if they advertise it being organic? And I'm sure it's better then going with full chemical? I'm trying to go with something as organic as possible without taking to much time oor money to mix up soil and teas and shit.
 

LivingCanvas

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If you're not trying to spend money, then you should really stay away from overpriced Advanced Nutrients garbage. We are trying to get
the "newbies" to buy out all or AN products at the shop, so we can stop carrying the overpriced garbage. Personally, if you're outside,
in a non-legal state, I'd say mix up some Super Soil. You get out what you put in. Besides, who wants to pH chem nutes on-site outdoors?

Base Soil - Roots organics
+EWC
+Mycos/Azos amendments on transplant
+Supersoil Listed Amendments/Ratios

Straight water til harvest - MAYBE H20+Epsoms for Mag.
 

Jack Harer

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Dude (Dudette), just do a Miracle gro and be done with it. It's your cheapest way out here. Just cut the amounts in the directions in half. Grow your smoke, enjoy. No shame in that. Organics takes a certain amount of dedication and requires a whole lot more effort than most are willing to put forth, Which is why Scotts/Miracl Gro is the no. 1 name in household gardening.
 

Chronic Masterbator

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Well Im certainly no novice. I just don't like miracle grow too much it seems to react weird when I start using flower nutes. My spot is hidden I can go once a day if I want. But I go every other day. I've grown their before no prob. Its really close to my place. I just wish not to disclose where though. Once in a while I dump oak leafs their and use it for mulch. I can certainly put time into it. Just wondering if anyone has used heavy harvest from advance nutrients and what their thoughts are on it. I thought you where a advocate for organics Jack lol.:wink::wink:
 

Urhighness88

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I heard that there discontinuing HH I was gonna try it but found out its not organic and shit but I was looking to get something with a large yield. Cuz I'm doin a small grown for my first but want to hopefully have enough for the year to come.
 

Chronic Masterbator

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Urhigness just Google some supply still out there. Thinking to grab some before its all gone. Just wanna know if its worth it. I want to do a one time all out grow and stay low after that. I know its slow release I wouldn't use it in the last half of flowering. Just never tried a slow release fert. Advance nutes are tailored to cannabis so I'm thinking it would be worth it just not sure. Last 4 weeks of flowering I would just feed with water and molasses.
 

Jack Harer

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CM, yeah, LOL, I am an organic sort of guy. But to me, organics is an "all or nothing" thing. You really can't be "almost organic", or even partially so. It's a discipline that requires a certain amount of effort. It's all good as long as we're growing cannabis. I'd rather recommend MG and see someone succeed, than down someone for a partial effort and see them fail. If I see that someone really isn't going to go the distance with the whole organic thing, then I'd much rather recommend something that will work for them. Dude, If you really want to do an all out organic grow, you really ought to check out the Espoma line. Inexpensive, great results, and available most anywhere.
 
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