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Get used to it Trump (loosing that is).

Judge blocks Trump effort to subpoena Jan. 6 documents
A federal judge Monday rejected former President Trump’s efforts to subpoena information related to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack that the former president had accused government officials of failing to preserve, determining the request amounted to a “fishing expedition.”

An October filing from Trump repeated a disputed claim that the former House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 riot failed to turn over all the evidence it collected. Trump sought to subpoena Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), who led the nine-member panel, as well as several other government officials over what Trump’s attorneys deemed “missing materials.”

Judge Tanya Chutkan, who is overseeing the federal case related to Trump’s actions to stay in power, said that he failed to meet the legal bar for subpoenaing the officials.

“The broad scope of the records that Defendant seeks, and his vague description of their potential relevance, resemble less ‘a good faith effort to obtain identified evidence’ than they do a general ‘fishing expedition’ that attempts to use the [Rule 17(c) subpoena] as a discovery device,’” she wrote.

Trump also sought to compel cooperation from Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.), the House Administration Oversight Subcommittee chairman, who has said he did not receive the entirety of the panel’s records. And Trump tried to subpoena the national archivist and attorneys to the White House and the Department of Homeland Security.

President Trump is fully entitled to seek the Missing Records by subpoena. It is also equally important to determine if these records have been lost, destroyed, or altered,” Trump’s lawyer’s wrote last month.

Thompson has said the committee turned over all required work products and official records — including transcripts of all witness interviews but not all video recordings that weren’t ultimately used in their hearings.

“The Select Committee did not archive temporary committee records that were not elevated by the Committee’s actions, such as use in hearings or official publications, or those that did not further its investigative activities. Accordingly, and contrary to your letter’s implication, the Select Committee was not obligated to archive all video recordings of transcribed interviews or depositions,” he wrote in August.

He also praised the panel’s “unprecedented transparency,” noting that a massive tranche of the committee’s records were shared publicly ahead of its dissolution.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Another roadblock removed, there is no right way to do the wrong thing.


Republican threat to Fani Willis runs into legal wall at state supreme court

The Georgia Supreme Court sent state Republicans back to the drawing board with its rejection of a commission Republican legislators had hoped to use to interrogate prosecutors about perceived political bias. Clark D. Cunningham, professor of law at Georgia State University, joins to discuss the ruling with Rachel Maddow.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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They are all going broke in the Georgia case, Donald's delays and motions are very expensive for the others involved and is ruining their families financially. Some appear to want an earlier trial than Donald or to plead out, perhaps leaving Donald to be tried in Georgia alone and already federally convicted and sentenced to life in the slammer. He will likely have a trial underway during the election, once he is convicted and jailed in May of 24, there should be no questions about delaying the other trials during the election. It won't interfere with Donald's campaign since he will be in a prison cell anyway. Let's see how Florida goes next year, Donald will already be in federal prison and might even be broke when NY is done with him. By the time Cannon tries him he will already be serving time and have multiple criminal convictions, so no first offender! She wouldn't even be able to let him out on bail or get him out of his orange jumpsuit during the trial. Then she would have to sentence him according to the guidelines after a slam dunk case and the death threats will never end when he turns on her! Thanks!


Trump co-defendant SHAKES THINGS UP in Fulton County case

Former Trump attorney and Georgia co-defendant John Eastman filed an opposition today against the August 5th trial date. Eastman proposes that Trump be tried on his own and the rest of the defendants be split into two groups and tried before August.
 

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Pence’s notes show VP initially didn’t want to preside over Jan. 6 electoral count: report
Former Vice President Pence initially did not want to preside over the count of electoral votes on Jan. 6, 2021, amid pressure from former President Trump to overturn the election results, according to a new report from ABC News.

ABC News spoke with sources familiar with what Pence told federal investigators led by special counsel Jack Smith, who is investigating efforts to overturn the 2020 election. Sources told the outlet that investigators pushed Pence on personal notes he had taken during his vice presidency that were obtained by investigators from the National Archives.

The notes indicate that Pence had briefly decided that he would not oversee the counting of the electoral votes, writing that there were “too many questions” and that it would otherwise be “too hurtful to my friend,” which likely references Trump.

In August, Trump was indicted on four counts in the federal election interference case, which alleged the former president directed a conspiracy to defraud the U.S. and was at the center of the campaign to block the certification of votes on Jan. 6. Pence testified for several hours in front of the grand jury investigating the case in April.

According to ABC’s reporting, Pence told Smith’s team that his loyalty to Trump never wavered at the time. Sources described the former vice president telling investigators that his “only higher loyalty was to God and the Constitution.”

Investigators also pressed Pence on his recent memoir, which detailed some of the conversations he had with Trump about certifying the votes. The investigators were interested over the placement of a comma at one point in Pence’s book, which the former vice president said was a mistake, sources told ABC.

In his memoir, Pence wrote that he told Trump “You know, I don’t think I have the authority to change the outcome” of the election on Jan. 6. However, Pence reportedly told investigators that the comma was not supposed to be there, which suggested that Trump knew Pence could not overturn the results when overseeing the election.

Smith cites the line from Pence’s memoir in his 45-page indictment against the former president.

Pence ended his four-month campaign for the White House last month. Since leaving office and throughout his campaign, Pence maintained that he did the right thing on Jan. 6 by not attempting to overturn the election results.
 

Offmymeds

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They are all going broke in the Georgia case, Donald's delays and motions are very expensive for the others involved and is ruining their families financially. Some appear to want an earlier trial than Donald or to plead out, perhaps leaving Donald to be tried in Georgia alone and already federally convicted and sentenced to life in the slammer. He will likely have a trial underway during the election, once he is convicted and jailed in May of 24, there should be no questions about delaying the other trials during the election. It won't interfere with Donald's campaign since he will be in a prison cell anyway. Let's see how Florida goes next year, Donald will already be in federal prison and might even be broke when NY is done with him. By the time Cannon tries him he will already be serving time and have multiple criminal convictions, so no first offender! She wouldn't even be able to let him out on bail or get him out of his orange jumpsuit during the trial. Then she would have to sentence him according to the guidelines after a slam dunk case and the death threats will never end when he turns on her! Thanks!


Trump co-defendant SHAKES THINGS UP in Fulton County case

Former Trump attorney and Georgia co-defendant John Eastman filed an opposition today against the August 5th trial date. Eastman proposes that Trump be tried on his own and the rest of the defendants be split into two groups and tried before August.
He's bankrupting the RNC in some states too.
 

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She wouldn't even be able to let him out on bail or get him out of his orange jumpsuit during the trial.
In the USA all criminal defendants have a right to appear at a jury trial free of jail garb or restraints.

If he is convicted in DC and has his bond revoked before the GA trial commences then he will waive his right to appear at televised pre-trial hearings.

So you wont get your chance to see it unless and until his bond is revoked and he is sentenced in Georgia.
 
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In the USA all criminal defendants have a right to appear at a jury trial free of jail garb or restraints.

If he is convicted in DC and has his bond revoked before the GA trial commences then he will waive his right to appear at televised pre-trial hearings.

So you wont get your chance to see it unless and until his bond is revoked and he is sentenced in Georgia.
I agree with you. If other prisoners are treated a certain way then Trump should be treated the same. I think that policy should be applied more often that it currently is.
 

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Pence’s notes show VP initially didn’t want to preside over Jan. 6 electoral count: report
Former Vice President Pence initially did not want to preside over the count of electoral votes on Jan. 6, 2021, amid pressure from former President Trump to overturn the election results, according to a new report from ABC News.

ABC News spoke with sources familiar with what Pence told federal investigators led by special counsel Jack Smith, who is investigating efforts to overturn the 2020 election. Sources told the outlet that investigators pushed Pence on personal notes he had taken during his vice presidency that were obtained by investigators from the National Archives.

The notes indicate that Pence had briefly decided that he would not oversee the counting of the electoral votes, writing that there were “too many questions” and that it would otherwise be “too hurtful to my friend,” which likely references Trump.

In August, Trump was indicted on four counts in the federal election interference case, which alleged the former president directed a conspiracy to defraud the U.S. and was at the center of the campaign to block the certification of votes on Jan. 6. Pence testified for several hours in front of the grand jury investigating the case in April.

According to ABC’s reporting, Pence told Smith’s team that his loyalty to Trump never wavered at the time. Sources described the former vice president telling investigators that his “only higher loyalty was to God and the Constitution.”

Investigators also pressed Pence on his recent memoir, which detailed some of the conversations he had with Trump about certifying the votes. The investigators were interested over the placement of a comma at one point in Pence’s book, which the former vice president said was a mistake, sources told ABC.

In his memoir, Pence wrote that he told Trump “You know, I don’t think I have the authority to change the outcome” of the election on Jan. 6. However, Pence reportedly told investigators that the comma was not supposed to be there, which suggested that Trump knew Pence could not overturn the results when overseeing the election.

Smith cites the line from Pence’s memoir in his 45-page indictment against the former president.

Pence ended his four-month campaign for the White House last month. Since leaving office and throughout his campaign, Pence maintained that he did the right thing on Jan. 6 by not attempting to overturn the election results.
Pence is the only being I've seen that can stand upright without a spine. He's Hymie.

 
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"Unfair law, I got away with it and they then changed the laws to get me."

Trump offers support for Adams, Cuomo, others sued under ‘ridiculous’ sexual assault law
Former President Trump issued rare support to two New York Democrats who were sued for sexual misconduct under a now-expired law that previously allowed a suit of the same manner against himself.

New York’s Adult Survivors Act gave sexual assault survivors a one-year window to bring civil lawsuits against their abusers, even if that misconduct occurred decades ago. The window to file suits under the law closed last week, after more than 3,700 legal claims had been filed.

Among the claims were accusations that New York City Mayor Eric Adams committed a 1993 sexual assault, and that former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo sexually harassed a former aide while still in office. Both Adams and Cuomo denied the allegations, according to The Associated Press.

In a Truth Social post early Wednesday, Trump called the law allowing the delayed sex abuse lawsuits “ridiculous” and “unconstitutional,” urging the two New York Democrats to fight back.

“I hope that Mayor Eric Adam’s, Andrew Cuomo, and all of the others that got sued based on this ridiculous law where someone can be sued decades later, and with no proof, will fight it on being totally unfair and UNCONSTITUTIONAL,” Trump wrote.

Trump also referenced a sexual assault accusation he faced that surfaced the same day the law was enacted last year, filed by writer E. Jean Carroll. That claim went to trial earlier this year, where Carroll testified that Trump raped her in a New York City Bergdorf Goodman dressing room in spring 1996.

“I’m here because Donald Trump raped me, and when I wrote about it, he said it didn’t happen,” Carroll told a jury. “He lied and shattered my reputation, and I’m here to try and get my life back.”

Trump was found liable for sexual abuse and defamation, though the nine-member jury determined he did not commit rape. He also was ordered to pay Carroll $5 million in damages.

On Wednesday, Trump repeated claims that he doesn’t know Carroll and she “made up” her assault “for purposes of Election Interference.” He appealed the outcome of the case in May.

Another lawsuit filed by Carroll, accusing Trump of defamation when she initially came forward in 2019, is set to go to trial early next year.

The yearlong New York Adult Survivors Act saw thousands of lawsuits pertaining to past sexual misconduct filed against alleged abusers in jails, prisons and hospitals, among others.

A number of big-name celebrities and politicians — including musician Sean “Diddy” Combs, actor Jamie Foxx and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani — were also accused under the law. A spokesperson for Combs, Giuliani and Foxx denied the allegations to the Associated Press.
 

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2 Arizona county officials indicted on election interference charges
An Arizona grand jury indicted two Republican county supervisors for allegedly delaying the certification of last year’s midterm elections, Arizona’s attorney general announced Wednesday.

Cochise County Supervisors Peggy Judd (R) and Tom Crosby (R) were charged with felony counts of interference with an election officer and conspiracy.

Arizona became an epicenter for GOP challenges to the 2022 midterm elections, which followed former President Trump’s unfounded claims of mass electoral fraud in the state in his re-election bid two years prior.

The indictment, returned earlier this week, accuses Judd, 61, and Crosby, 64, of preventing the timely transmission of the county’s vote returns for inclusion in the statewide canvass.

One year ago, the duo voted against certifying the county’s midterm election results before the statutory deadline to do so, citing a trio of conspiracy theorists who claimed the county’s voting machines weren’t properly accredited.

The Arizona secretary of state’s office and the U.S. Elections Assistance Commission refute the allegations.

Cochise County, a Republican-controlled jurisdiction in the state’s southeast, was the only jurisdiction to not certify by the deadline.

The three-member county board ultimately certified the results days later after a court ordered them to do so. Crosby was absent from the meeting and did not vote, but Judd voted to certify.

“The repeated attempts to undermine our democracy are unacceptable,” said Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes (D), who won by the slimmest of margins in the 2022 elections.

“I took an oath to uphold the rule of law, and my office will continue to enforce Arizona’s elections laws and support our election officials as they carry out the duties and responsibilities of their offices,” Mayes said in her statement.
 

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trying to move money around......and the monitor found it....

Former President Donald Trump and his co-defendants in his civil fraud trial are under "enhanced monitoring" after failing to disclose three transfers of cash adding up to roughly $40 million, a letter made public on Wednesday reveals.

Those unreported transfers included $29 million to the former president for tax payments, insurance premiums, and a $5.5 million cash payment in lieu of a bond allowing Trump to appeal the E. Jean Carroll sexual assault judgment, according to the filing.

On Nov. 14, 2022, Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron put the Trump Organization under court monitoring, as the then-nascent lawsuit filed by New York Attorney General Letitia James prepared for trial. Retired U.S. District Judge Barbara Jones assumed the role of the monitor, and Engoron ordered Trump earlier this year to tell Jones whenever he engaged in transfers larger than $5 million.

In a three-page letter, Jones itemized some transfers that she says slipped through the cracks.

"These transactions included a cash transfer of $29 million to Donald J. Trump, which I have confirmed was used for tax payments," she wrote in the letter. "Based upon Defendants explanations I have also confirmed that the other transfers were for insurance premiums and to an attorney escrow account."

According to a footnote, the attorney escrow account was for his Carroll appeal.

"We have discussed with Defendants why these transactions were not previously disclosed and I have now clarified (and Defendants have agreed) that all transfers of assets out of the Trust exceeding $5 million must be reported," Jones wrote.

Jones added that Trump and his co-defendants have agreed to enhanced monitoring.

"Defendants continue to cooperate with me and are generally in compliance with the Court's orders, and have committed to ensure that all required information, including tax information and cash transfers, are promptly disclosed to the Monitor," her letter states.

Trump's attorney Christopher Kise did not immediately respond to a request for comment.


the actual letter is at the bottom of the article, so you can read for yourself
 

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trying to move money around......and the monitor found it....

Former President Donald Trump and his co-defendants in his civil fraud trial are under "enhanced monitoring" after failing to disclose three transfers of cash adding up to roughly $40 million, a letter made public on Wednesday reveals.

Those unreported transfers included $29 million to the former president for tax payments, insurance premiums, and a $5.5 million cash payment in lieu of a bond allowing Trump to appeal the E. Jean Carroll sexual assault judgment, according to the filing.

On Nov. 14, 2022, Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron put the Trump Organization under court monitoring, as the then-nascent lawsuit filed by New York Attorney General Letitia James prepared for trial. Retired U.S. District Judge Barbara Jones assumed the role of the monitor, and Engoron ordered Trump earlier this year to tell Jones whenever he engaged in transfers larger than $5 million.

In a three-page letter, Jones itemized some transfers that she says slipped through the cracks.

"These transactions included a cash transfer of $29 million to Donald J. Trump, which I have confirmed was used for tax payments," she wrote in the letter. "Based upon Defendants explanations I have also confirmed that the other transfers were for insurance premiums and to an attorney escrow account."

According to a footnote, the attorney escrow account was for his Carroll appeal.

"We have discussed with Defendants why these transactions were not previously disclosed and I have now clarified (and Defendants have agreed) that all transfers of assets out of the Trust exceeding $5 million must be reported," Jones wrote.

Jones added that Trump and his co-defendants have agreed to enhanced monitoring.

"Defendants continue to cooperate with me and are generally in compliance with the Court's orders, and have committed to ensure that all required information, including tax information and cash transfers, are promptly disclosed to the Monitor," her letter states.

Trump's attorney Christopher Kise did not immediately respond to a request for comment.


the actual letter is at the bottom of the article, so you can read for yourself
"I forgot."
 

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if your having problems with fitter aka X...here

A New York appellate court on Thursday reinstated the gag orders barring Donald Trump and his lawyers from making public statements about the principal law clerk of the judge overseeing the former president's ongoing civil fraud trial.

Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron noted that the ruling also reinstates a separate gag order imposed on Trump's lawyers.

"So I intend to enforce the gag orders rigorously and vigorously, and I want to make sure that counsel informs their clients of the fact that the stay was vacated," Engoron said.

In Washington, D.C., a federal appellate court is considering whether to reinstate a separate order imposed on Trump that bars him from attacking witnesses against him in a criminal case against him for over his attempt to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

On the second day of Trump's civil fraud trial, the former president falsely claimed on Truth Social that Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron's clerk was the "girlfriend" of a prominent Democratic politician. Engoron ordered Trump to delete the "untrue" and "disparaging" post and then entered a gag order forbidding him from referring to her.

The judge found Trump in violation of that gag order twice, imposing a total of $15,000 in penalties. Engoron then expanded the gag order to forbid Trump's attorneys from referencing his "confidential" communications with the clerk.

Trump's legal team has appealed both of the orders to New York's Appellate Division, First Department, obtaining a temporary stay of the order as the appeal was pending.

During the time the gag order was paused, Trump resumed his attacks on the clerk, and a court security officer warned in a sworn statement that the clerk received "hundreds" of threatening and harassing messages, which spike every time the former president attacks her.

"She has been subjected to, on a daily basis, harassing, disparaging comments and antisemitic tropes," the court security officer said, estimating that the transcripts of the threats have totaled "over 275 single spaced pages."

In now-public passages of those transcripts, callers frequently used profanity and referred to both Engoron and his clerk as "filthy little Jews."

On Thursday, a four-judge panel from the state appellate court lifted the pause on the gag order's enforcement. The ruling effective reinstates the gag order pending Trump's appeal, which has not yet been adjudicated.

 

Fogdog

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oh Perry....your in the cross hairs now.....

One thing I should have included in my list of things to be thankful for on Turkey Day was that the J-6 coup plotters were utterly clueless, inept and rank amateurs about the whole thing, including leaving a trail of evidence that a blind hunting dog without a sense of smell could follow.
 

BudmanTX

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One thing I should have included in my list of things to be thankful for on Turkey Day was that the J-6 coup plotters were utterly clueless, inept and rank amateurs about the whole thing, including leaving a trail of evidence that a blind hunting dog without a sense of smell could follow.
most of the numb nuts don't realize the DOJ and the FBI have everything....Phones, Computers access, and Testimony...the works....and then they come out surprised like a deer in the headlights.....
 
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