Trichomes & Harvesting

HollyD

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I just finished reading this whole thread, and k0ijn, you're a candidate for sainthood.

My question: should I start counting the dark period from the beginning of the flush or from when I drove the nail through the stem and should I use a metal nail or a wooden stake and when is the best time for the chocolate syrup feeding to make it push out the maximum resin? Here's a picture, is it time to chop?



:twisted:

:mrgreen:

Hey, what's that axe for? :shock:


Seriously, though, thank you for the thread. I'm getting better at guessing about other peoples' photos and have some confidence that I won't be in here asking when it's time for mine to come down.
 

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
I just finished reading this whole thread, and k0ijn, you're a candidate for sainthood.

My question: should I start counting the dark period from the beginning of the flush or from when I drove the nail through the stem and should I use a metal nail or a wooden stake and when is the best time for the chocolate syrup feeding to make it push out the maximum resin? Here's a picture, is it time to chop?


:twisted:

:mrgreen:

Hey, what's that axe for? :shock:


Seriously, though, thank you for the thread. I'm getting better at guessing about other peoples' photos and have some confidence that I won't be in here asking when it's time for mine to come down.
Thank you for your kind words, as well as the good laugh :bigjoint:
 
its good to check your trichomes with a magnifier glass.

but after you have grown your strain a few times, you know exactly when its time. and after a few grows you may know it on every plant :) experience is the best!

don't let yourself hang if it isn't working the first time! you will learn from mistakes
 

OldSoul777

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HEY ALL! THIS STUFF GREW SUPER FAST! I AM GROWING SUPER SKUNK, DAY 45 OF FLOWER, 52 OF 12/12 SHE WAS SHOWING PRE FLOWERS WHILE IN VEG. It is in my attempt at a SCROG. I am growing in hydro using GH 3 part with Liquid Karma and Cal mag. I am using RO water. I WANT TO CHOP ONE OF THE FOUR PLANTS AS I AM RUNNING OUT OF BUD. I NORMALLY WOULD JUST BUY SOME BUT THESE ARE SO CLOSE. ALL THE trichs ARE 100% CLOUDY WITH NO AMBER BUT THIS IS ALREADY AN INDICA DOMINANT STRAIN AND IS WHAT I LIKE. THIS PHENO IS REALLY SMALL COMPARED TO THE REST AND LOOKS LIKE SHE IS DONE PRODUCING BUD WHILE THE OTHERS ARE STILL FATTENING. WILL IT STILL PRODUCE GOOD SMOKE AT 45 DAYS? IS IT WORTH IT TO CHOP? here are some pics. You can see the Trics pretty clear if you zoom in. the fatter cola is what the others plants look like while the smaller on is what I am considering harvesting. There are 4 plants total for a 4x4 space pictured as well. Thanks for your opinions!
 

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Fease

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I know this sticky is old but CBN does not really produce a sickly feeling unless you consume a lot of it at once. It can create some dizzyness or spins like feeling. CBN slow release patches and some amber on your plants when smoked will create a feeling of well being, anti anxiety, and very slight drowsiness. The patches are actually amazingly medicinal to the point where it surprises me that people have not noticed yet.
 

OldSoul777

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I know this sticky is old but CBN does not really produce a sickly feeling unless you consume a lot of it at once. It can create some dizzyness or spins like feeling. CBN slow release patches and some amber on your plants when smoked will create a feeling of well being, anti anxiety, and very slight drowsiness. The patches are actually amazingly medicinal to the point where it surprises me that people have not noticed yet.
This is exactly what I look for. I was saying the other day "now this is some MEDICINE!" All medicinal properties come from the indica strain from what I understand. I look for higher CBN and CBD levels. Even with the lower THC count it is much more enjoyable for me. Anxiety being the number 1 reason! then to enhance my appetite as well as for nausea in the morning. I dont know why but I almost always wake feeling sick upon waking. The MJ takes it right away! I love it when I am sick. It gets me back to eating so much faster not to mention makes it all much more tolerable. I can honestly say that I really dont care too much for sativas or sativa dominant strains. You are so right though. For most its all about that high THC count.
 
Hello!

I have two Acid plants, they are in 12/12 for 62 days now and I'm travelling from June 1st to June 11th, so I must decide to harvest next friday (May 29th) or only when I come back... I took 10 tiny bud pieces to make those shots...


























thank you all!
 

Fease

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that's great it works for u!Sativa can also contain cbd and cbn but tends to be more upper in general which is potentially anxiety causing.
 

Fease

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are those nugs sativa or indica dominant? Indica finishes earlier. You can probably harvest next friday. They look almost done. If u let them go too long they could herm on ya.
 

Fease

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well I've smoked sativa with high cbd and I grow high cbd indica. Both exist. Also ya they should affect everyone the same but clearly something is different between the two. I'd guess that DNA, other chemicals/cannibinoids and terpenes create different effects.
 

Árboles verdes

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Hi guys, can you guys help me out, I'm having trouble with knowing when to harvest, this is my first grow, the crystals have more milky and very few Amber color than clear, I was just wondering about the (red hairs) that are still clear, should I worry about that?
 

anzohaze

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Hello!

I have two Acid plants, they are in 12/12 for 62 days now and I'm travelling from June 1st to June 11th, so I must decide to harvest next friday (May 29th) or only when I come back... I took 10 tiny bud pieces to make those shots...


























thank you all!
What camera Did.you use for them shots
 

laubs

Active Member
Harvesting your weed based on trichomes is probably the easiest way for most growers to harvest as close to peak harvest as possible.


The difficulty in the method comes with how to determine the state of the trichomes and what each state means.
If you have the equipment needed it is however very easy and with experience it gets even easier.


To explain how to harvest by trichomes properly I will go into detail as to how to determine when trichomes are at their peak and which substances these trichomes contain, which are desirable and which are not.






The first thing you need to know is that there are 3 "states" in a trichomes development.




The first state is clear. Clear trichomes contain precursor cannabinoids (cannabinoids are the different substances in cannabis).
These precursor cannabinoids are not psychoactive (they do not produce a 'high') yet and harvesting clear trichomes will not give you a proper harvest.




The second state is cloudy/milky. Cloudy trichomes contain fully realized THC (the by far main contributing substance in any cannabis high).
You want to get as close to 100% cloudy trichomes @ harvest to get the most potency out of your plant. It's impossible to get 100% cloudy trichomes, since trichomes are always being produced and are always maturing, even after harvest the trichomes will continue to develop.




The third state is amber. Amber trichomes contain degraded THC --> CBN. CBN represents a loss of 90% potency (from THC).
CBN is not desirable in any harvest, since it not only represents a huge loss of potency but research into the substance has also shown that CBN does not produce a high like THC does, CBN produces a more sickly feeling not a true high.




Understanding the difference between clear - cloudy - amber trichomes is essential in getting a proper harvest with a peak potency.




This image is a good helper to remember the differences:







To understand how substances change and are developed in cannabis you will need to read extensively on each substance to understand what each substance does and how they affect each other.


This image is helpful in getting a vague knowledge of substances in cannabis and how they develop:









I will not go deeper into what each substance (CBG, CBD, CBC, CBN, THCV etc.) do, suffice to say they all play a part in the cannabis high, albeit a minor part for most of them, since THC is the main factor in a cannabis high.
Some provide pain relief, some reduce muscle spasm, the list goes on and research is still being done to figure out all of the benefits of these substances.


I can however post an image that explains rather well which effects the substances have on the human body:













Trichomes are of course not the only indicator of when to harvest.
There are other factors that should be taken into account when determining when to harvest.


Calyxes on the plant will swell up, these swollen calyxes are a sign of maturity.
The pistils (what some new growers call hairs) will change colour (often to an orange tinge) and recede into the calyx.
Receding pistils are also a sign of maturity.
Then there is the overall look of the plant. Many experienced growers simply go by this factor, they can determine peak harvest just by looking at the plant and seeing how it looks from afar regarding colour tinge and the look of the calyxes.


All these factors should be taken into account when harvesting. All of these factors usually align when peak harvest approaches.






The best way to check how the trichomes on your plant are doing is by means of a loupe or a microscope.
I would recommend getting ones that can at least go to 60x magnification.
Getting one that can go to 100x would be even better, but the more magnification the more cost.


All you have to do is take a small sample of a leaf with trichomes on it, or if you have a loupe or a USB microscope simply look at the trichomes on the plant to determine their 'state'.
It's important that you check all over the plant, since trichomes will usually develop and produce faster at the top(s) of branches and slower and the bottom of the plant.


Some people choose to harvest the tops first and let the bottom nugs grow a bit more to let the trichomes mature and develop further but also to let the buds fatten up more. It's a judgement and preference call really.




It's almost impossible to harvest without at least some amber trichomes (and some clear), keeping the amber trichomes to the minimum is key if you want maximum potency out of your plant.
Usually if you are careful and watchful you will end up with around 5% clear trichomes, 10% amber and 85% cloudy trichomes.
That is a very reasonable % split and is what you should be aiming for.









References & sources:

http://montanabiotech.com/

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