transplanting into tga super soil

hotshotisdashit

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Hey RIU,
Planning a 1000 watt hps organic grow in tga super soil. Here are my plans and concerns. I plan to start vegging in 1 gallon (.8 actual) air pots for approximately 3 weeks. Roots
organics soil. Then
transplant into
gallon (2.2 actual) for
another 3 weeks. Up
to this point I only
plan on using tap
water, silica and G.O. rooting hormone.
From here I plan to
transplant into 5
gallon (3.5 actual) or
7 gallon (5.5 actual)
air pots.
Here are my
concerns. 1. Will the base Roots organics soil last me six weeks considering I'm transplanting?
2. Should I transplant from 2.2 gallon air pots to 3.5 or 5.5 airpots?
3. Can I transplant into all super soil or should it be mixed or layered?
4.Will the silica effect my the microherd in my soil?
If you have any questions about my setup or something I may have left out let me know and I'll provide the info.
Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
 

anzohaze

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Why so much repotting more of a chance of doing damage. dont use bottled crap if y I u want more roots get mykos extreme gardening is good stuff. And the airpots help make a good root structure. Less is more dont need to add the extras keep super soil bottom half or pot. On top fill with reg soil and leave a few Inched from top of soil to top edge of pot to too dress with remaining ss or ewc as needed
 

hotshotisdashit

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Thanks Anzohaze...
You think it's too many transplants. It's only two transplants. And thanks I'll definitely cut all the bottled stuff. Don't wanna ruin my soil. Ok so when doin second transplant (from 3 gallon to 7 gallon) I'll put a little base soil on top then fill the rest with ss. Do you recommend I cut the super soil with maybe 25% base soil or maybe extra perlite?
 

TwistItUp

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My two cents and then some is that if you do transplant all those times, it might be a good time to use mycorrhizae if you wanted to.
Because it needs to touch the roots to grow with the roots. What are you using for carbs? I use Hi-brix molasses. Do you use any amino product?
Cannabis is a C3 plant and can only use L-amino's or left spinning, left handed amino acids. So products like bud candy
have a lot of fillers the plant can't even use. I'm on my second grow with TGA super soil and I'm adding Dark Energy L-Amino supplement
to my grow this time to see if it gives good results. Dark Energy doesn't smell as bad as some say it does. L-Amino's have a chelating /ˈkēlāt/
effect on micro nutrients and make it easier for the plants to feed. When the nutrients are chelated this reduces the effect of nutrient lockout.
I too am interested in if silica is safe for the micro herd. Pretty sure silica is actually putting silicone in the plant so I might just avoid it and stick
to the whole organic thing. Another thing to consider would be enzymes. Which are supposed to eat dead roots and turn those roots into nutrients.
This also keeps good flow through the soil and prevents those dead roots from causing mold and disease. Cannazym for example is supposed to be
some good enzymes. Someone also recommended using Microbe Life Plus-C which is a bunch of bennies.
 
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TwistItUp

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I don't know for sure if this will work but, to add some calcium along with other benefits.
I am topping my smart pots with Gnat nix. Everyone says that stuff is made from glass.
But its not, its made from glass, and calcium carbonate. The last bag I ordered even had a bunch of powder
from bits that got crushed up. I really hope it does add some calcium, lol. If that actually works, then adding grow stone brand aeration rocks which are also made from recycled glass and calcium carbonate might be a good idea.
 
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TwistItUp

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The last time I used TGA Super Soil, I think it was Pro-Mix HP or whichever compressed bale Home Depot sells that I used as a cool soil.
After harvest I dug through the soil and there appeared to be almost no root matter in the top layer of pro mix. All the root growth was down
in the TGA Super Soil, literally like all the root growth was at the bottom. So I'm also curious if its safe to just plant right into TGA Super Soil.
I realized since then that Pro Mix is peat based which peat has an effect on Ph when it breaks down. Using Sunshine Advanced Ultra Coir this grow.
 

machinegreenkelly

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That was a really well done report on soil Twistitup. Very interesting to me. I think you will have good results with the Ultra Coir. I use Black Gold Coco and i have always thought about doing TSA grow.
 

TwistItUp

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Haha, when I dug through the soil after harvest it was like a definite two layers, like two cakes of different soil with nearly all the root growth in the bottom cake, being the TGA Super Soil. I understand there is different roots at the top and the bottom, such as air roots on the top, but there was hardly anything in the top. TGA Super Soil gets a thumbs up from me. A note about compressed soils/soiless mix's is that people are saying that the mycorrhizae needs to I guess breath and or maybe there is gases that need to escape, something to that effect but yeah whatever it is what people are saying is that the compressed bales kill the bennies and mycorrhizae, so your not really getting much if any mycorrhizae from compressed bales.
 
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hotshotisdashit

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Yo Twistitup I was planning on just using this over the counter grandma's unsulphered molasses for carbs from seed to harvest. As far as other supplements for enzymes I'm really unsure.II'll definitely look into the cannazym you mentioned. To be honest I'm extremely New to organics and still fairly new to growing with only two complete grows undermy belt. So iI think a lot more studying is required to get this next grow off the ground. Much thanks for the info you provided thus far. Big up...
 

TwistItUp

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Why so much repotting more of a chance of doing damage. dont use bottled crap if y I u want more roots get mykos extreme gardening is good stuff. And the airpots help make a good root structure. Less is more dont need to add the extras keep super soil bottom half or pot. On top fill with reg soil and leave a few Inched from top of soil to top edge of pot to too dress with remaining ss or ewc as needed
You should do pretty well with that molasses, carb's is all you really need. If that's all you use then that is pretty close to all that I used for my first run of TGA Super Soil and I got better results with just molasses compared to what I got using Vermifire soil and the full line of Foxfarm nutes, and I also used RO water, Ph'ed my nutes every feeding and gave CalMag+ as well, and the TGA Super Soil gave better results, and was a heck of a lot easier to grow with not having to mix hardly anything and no Ph'ing, also just tap water that run. RO water wasn't necessary. If you go the filtered water route then I'd say just get a Small Boy de chlorination filter so that chlorine doesn't kill the bennies. As for the quote above, I agree on that. "don't use bottled crap", "Less is more don't need to add the extras", <----- I believe I recall someone saying "Keep it simple stupid", and that's pretty much one way how I think Super Soil seems to work.
 
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TwistItUp

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I also had no bugs or odd coloration in the leaves since I've been using TGA Super Soil.
The grow with Vermifire soil the plants had some odd foliage coloration that no one could tell me exactly what the problem was.
Looked like a lack of boron but in odd shapes and not at the location of the leaves that deficiency charts show it should have been.
Boron haha what am I saying. I'm thinking of something else, that metallic taste I use to get when injecting steroids.
I meant to say Phosphorus, rofl. It looked like Phosphorus deficiency but at the base of each leaf blade.

 

tyson53

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you dont need that many transplants....i go from cup into final home...you can fill pot with 3/4 super soil and top with the roots organic...dust your roots with myco powder when transplanting to your big pot...I water with liquid kelp at first ..great for root developement...if your water has chlorine let it set out over night or if chlorimine get some remover at a fish aquarium store...and yes use the silica ..wait for week 2 to start using...it does raise the PH of water so you know...your roots will travel down to the super soil and all is good...
 

TwistItUp

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I also had no bugs or odd coloration in the leaves since I've been using TGA Super Soil.
The grow with Vermifire soil the plants had some odd foliage coloration that no one could tell me exactly what the problem was.
Looked like a lack of boron but in odd shapes and not at the location of the leaves that deficiency charts show it should have been.
Boron haha what am I saying. I'm thinking of something else, that metallic taste I use to get when injecting steroids.
I meant to say Phosphorus, rofl. It looked like Phosphorus deficiency but at the base of each leaf blade.

haha, that reminds me of this time I got a MRI or CT scan I don't recall which but the machine caused me to heat up and I got that same distinct metallic taste in my mouth.
I told the nurse that taste like boron, lol. She immediately asked me how I knew.
 

hotshotisdashit

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E="TwistItUp, post: 10992324, member: 888189"]haha, that reminds me of this time I got a MRI or CT scan I don't recall which but the machine caused me to heat up and I got that same distinct metallic taste in my mouth.
I told the nurse that taste like boron, lol. She immediately asked me how I knew.[/QUOTE]
Thats funny as hell
 

hotshotisdashit

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Yea Twist I really didn't wanna too many additives. Planned on using just tap water, silica and a rooting hormone. But I think I'll scratch the rooting hormone. This is one of the things that swayed me to trying organics. In addition to not needing to ph water solutions. Question though... What ph range can the microherd survive in? I've heard anywhere from 4.0 to over 8.0.
 

hotshotisdashit

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Thanks for the info Tyson. So I guess I'll start them in 1 gallon pots (.8 actual) and transplant into final pots. Do you recommend transplanting into 5 gallon air pots (3.5 actual) or 7 gallon air pots (5.5 actual). How long do you veg in dixie cups and once transplanted how long do you veg before switching to 12/12.
 

TwistItUp

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Yea Twist I really didn't wanna too many additives. Planned on using just tap water, silica and a rooting hormone. But I think I'll scratch the rooting hormone. This is one of the things that swayed me to trying organics. In addition to not needing to ph water solutions. Question though... What ph range can the microherd survive in? I've heard anywhere from 4.0 to over 8.0.
I'm not too sure exactly. I know it's something around what you said but maybe not quite that much of a range, close to it though.
I read the micro herd is supposed to be able to adjust to Ph as needed.
 

TwistItUp

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Why so much repotting more of a chance of doing damage. dont use bottled crap if y I u want more roots get mykos extreme gardening is good stuff. And the airpots help make a good root structure. Less is more dont need to add the extras keep super soil bottom half or pot. On top fill with reg soil and leave a few Inched from top of soil to top edge of pot to too dress with remaining ss or ewc as needed
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