Total Noob using teas and I am a believer

Mad Hamish said:

I think RIU is now officially broken. Hate to say it but I have been more than a little put off now. It feels quite unsafe.

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I made a similar comment in my thread bro.

In this day and age we have enough chances to be exploited.

I never asked Google to associate my name with my gmail account,
but now I have a lifetime of crap spewed on the web following me.
LOL, whatever. I will do my best to be ready when the hammer falls.

JD

Hi crew. I want to know that you are all ok. I missed you guys.

Gand I'm still here. Glad to see you are ok too. I've been living it up on instagram (hyrootpharms) But now back on riu keepin it gangster lol

We back! How are things?

Still here, hope you guys are all doing well.

GandalfdaGreen said:

Hi crew. I want to know that you are all ok. I missed you guys.

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Present. With nothing else to do while RIU was down, I trust that you were balls deep the entire time .....

Feels good to be back. Now I can ask for help like usual. And like comments!

Let's see how this works. My ATF and bbhill girls are looking rough. I contacted Hamish and he alerted me to k def. obviously I respect the hell out of him and will follow his therapy advice. Here's some pics. The males look great. They've only received rain. However the girls have been fed the revs flower tea once a week. I was told on grasscity the tea is the problem and to stop feeding it. What do you guys think? Should I add some kelp or 4-4-4 fert? Hamish said to top dress ewc and feed hydrollysate and water.

I missed everyone but stow.

Why do I feel liiiike....somebody's watching meee.

Steel, my opinion only but I think it's more likely that your ph is out of range as opposed to you suffering any particular deficiency. If you followed any one of the dozens of recipes posted here and elsewhere then your soil should have plenty of gas. On top of that you're supplementing with teas.... so I don't think you're shorting your plants anything. Are you using a peat base? Do you make your own compost or re you using bagged product?

Javadog said:

I made a similar comment in my thread bro.

In this day and age we have enough chances to be exploited.

I never asked Google to associate my name with my gmail account,
but now I have a lifetime of crap spewed on the web following me.
LOL, whatever. I will do my best to be ready when the hammer falls.

JD

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Well they fixed it up and it is really not shabby... Not too mad about the 'trophies' etc. But it works well and looks good.

Steelheader3430 said:

View attachment 3040438 View attachment 3040440 View attachment 3040442 Let's see how this works. My ATF and bbhill girls are looking rough. I contacted Hamish and he alerted me to k def. obviously I respect the hell out of him and will follow his therapy advice. Here's some pics. The males look great. They've only received rain. However the girls have been fed the revs flower tea once a week. I was told on grasscity the tea is the problem and to stop feeding it. What do you guys think? Should I add some kelp or 4-4-4 fert? Hamish said to top dress ewc and feed hydrollysate and water.

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I had this exact problem just a little while ago. Mobile element as it is in the lower leaves first, leaves you with K that causes that kind of scarring. Looks a lot like P but that is an immobile element so the tops would show it.

This can be caused by many things and as Stow points out a lack of K in the soil is unlikely. But not impossible. So go the 'full spectrum treatment' route.

Anyhow, my advice is still to top dress with EWC, with a little fishy feed. Or even just molasses as a feed. Whether the deficiency is caused by a lack of the element or it being locked out, BOTH will be treated all at once. EM-1 or a Lacto B serum will take care of excess ammonia nitrogen and free up the micro herd for other work, cooling things down in there and making conditions favorable for everybody.

EWC will also get the nutrient cycling up to speed. As a guy on another forum pointed out to Steel, it is a possibility there is an imbalance in the micro herd. This can also cause the K to be locked out right now.

This is the advice I gave Steel, hope it checks out solid with you fellas.

EDIT: Also, knowing WHAT element is lacking is neither here nor there in organics. We can't go after them as single elements like in hydro. For soil, I believe in gentle 'full spectrum' treatments. EWC kicks ass.

Sup dudes, hope all is well with everyone. Chopped while the site was down didn't take any pictures, will get some dried bud shots up. Wasn't impressed with the clones I took so the OG Grape Krypt is done. 10 weeks was too long anyways.

Got my cab done in the downtime. I'll post pics later when the lights come on. My drip system works great.... BUT I was initially using aquarium tubing from my air pump, I switched to the harder stuff that came for the drip system and nothing flows threw it at all. So If you want a gravity fed drip system it appears you can't use the standard 1/4 inch tubing meant for pressure fed systems.

It worked so well with the soft tubing, I don't get how the hard stuff would cause the issue but Im kinda pissed off cause you can't get this hard shit off the spurs on the drippers or the connectors to the half inch, had to use pliers on a couple and broke a couple connectors right in the half inch hose and pulled one right out and fucked the hole up, so I'm prolly going to have to redo all my tubing

Right when I thought I was done! I will say I am super impressed with how well a 5 gallon bucket works with just a couple gallons of water. Great for my small garden, I got it set up so I can clean the tubes super easy after a tea feeding.

st0wandgrow said:

Steel, my opinion only but I think it's more likely that your ph is out of range as opposed to you suffering any particular deficiency. If you followed any one of the dozens of recipes posted here and elsewhere then your soil should have plenty of gas. On top of that you're supplementing with teas.... so I don't think you're shorting your plants anything. Are you using a peat base? Do you make your own compost or re you using bagged product?

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I agree.

2/3 sphagnum 1/3 coco using Oly fish compost and organic ewc. I got a ph pen and will check that shit out. Thanks gang!

Edit: Well water ph's at 5.8 I've got a tea that's been brewing since saturday and its at 8.2 so is a stream out back. I just watered yesterday so tomorrow I'll check the runoff.

I would recommend getting the soil itself tested. To me that's going tell you what you need to know. Runoff can be influenced by other factors.

Check with a local university or county cooperative agricultural department. Some municipalities offer free (or very cheap) soil testing. It's in their best interests to have their residents aware of what they're potentially dumping in to the water supply.

If its not a ph issue then you can at least check it off the list, but that's where I'd start. Good luck bro

A good ol' fashion compost tea or two fixes damn near everything...if nutrients are in the soil.

Steel...do you use Agisil or ProTekt?

I am still here. Carry on folks.

JD

Stow I'll look into that. Red nope I don't have that stuff. I think I'll just follow hamishs advice and mix my well and spring water to a neutral 7.

RedCarpetMatches said:

A good ol' fashion compost tea or two fixes damn near everything...if nutrients are in the soil.

Steel...do you use Agisil or ProTekt?

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Yeah but sometimes it is a bit much. Gandalf's refrain of EWC and then just water makes most sense in most scenarios. You really don't need any other emergency measures unless you over-limed severely or your compost is too raw in which case it will get ugly and only re-potting will help some.

What LOS has taught me is to put the plant in control. That is the no 1 big lesson I got, and it works. It works so well I am almost getting bored and doing stupid things like over-planting just to stay challenged.

An EWC top dress is gentle, and slowly adds life to the soil as you water it down. The clean water flushes out the nasties, if your soil drains nicely you can go pretty liberal as I have done before with no ill effect. So theory is to get excess dissolved solids and ionized particles out the soil, and allowing the micro herd to be replenished from the top. Root exudates will determine what dominates and the micro herd pulls everything back into place.

Will you please test the runoff's pH after your next water? Try get the 'mid stream' water. Best way is good old litmus paper, use a pipette or match stick to pick up a drop and drop it on the paper. DO NOT touch the paper to the water, you will get a very inaccurate reading as it thins the dye. Always drop onto litmus paper. This is the fastest way to get an indication of what is happening in soil pH. Not totally accurate, but a big difference up or down from the pH of water in indicates an extreme situtation...

Kap at Breedbay has some strong and interesting opinions about pH in organics that might surprise most of you. I will go look for the conversation and quote properly. Kap is a guru. I can't imagine running a room the size him and SHOE do...