Topdawg Genetics

dubekoms

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6 weeks in- having some issues with soil mix, I was a little to heavy handed with the amendments. Can't do much now but plants are doing ok otherwise.

Tsd1 still chugging along, looks like she's got a lot left in her.20171015_201022.jpgtsd2 is getting a lot of early brown hairs, I've checked and checked for sacks but haven't found anything yet so I'm attributing it to stress for now. Lots of frost on this one20171015_200510-1.jpgpacked20171015_201008.jpg
 

goldberg71b

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So, some bad news. Seeds aren’t popping. None of them.
They are currently between two damp/little more then damp folded paper towels in a container I’ve used for poppin seeds for years now. It’s not air tight but light proof. So they have been sitting there since the 11th in a climate of 76-79. And nothing. Usually I’d see a little crack by now.
Any advice from here on forward? Any tricks or tips? I know not all were going to pop but none?
(I’m sure some of you will get a kick out of this)
~fam
No time to read but change the towels every 48 hrs
 

morgwar

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6 weeks in- having some issues with soil mix, I was a little to heavy handed with the amendments. Can't do much now but plants are doing ok otherwise.

Tsd1 still chugging along, looks like she's got a lot left in her.View attachment 4027379tsd2 is getting a lot of early brown hairs, I've checked and checked for sacks but haven't found anything yet so I'm attributing it to stress for now. Lots of frost on this oneView attachment 4027380packedView attachment 4027381
Looking good man! My soil did the same thing last time , they snapped right out of it with a few plain waterings. Orange/rust spots never healed though. Great yield heading your way .
 

goldberg71b

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So, some bad news. Seeds aren’t popping. None of them.
They are currently between two damp/little more then damp folded paper towels in a container I’ve used for poppin seeds for years now. It’s not air tight but light proof. So they have been sitting there since the 11th in a climate of 76-79. And nothing. Usually I’d see a little crack by now.
Any advice from here on forward? Any tricks or tips? I know not all were going to pop but none?
(I’m sure some of you will get a kick out of this)
~fam
I started 10/13 at noon with 6 seeds of The white and 6 seeds of GG4. I soaked them for 12 hours. Then I did my thing put them between towels and hung them as stated previously. So 12 hr soak plus 45 hrs in towels it was time to check them. All 6 GG4 popped. None of The White popped yet. So I mixed up a bit more RO water with few drops of hydrogen peroxide. Removed The White seeds from the old towels and placed them in new paper towels wet with new solution and returned them to their hanging position. Obviously planted the GG4. 0BC53ACE-3D36-4F8E-B489-EAD71A2F65B3.jpeg
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The seed to the right was placed in there in the right direction but shifted when I was putting it in the ziplock bag. So it does have a 90 degree bend. But as you can see when done right there’s no curling. :bigjoint:
 

goldberg71b

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Not that it matters but it there was one clear difference this round of germination. After 12 hr soak all of the GG4 seeds when tapped down in the water sunk to the bottom of the tiny bowl I put them in. However all of The White seeds all returned to floating position.

Trust me this is common. Some seeds will sink and other will float. But I’ve never seen all of one set sink and all of the other set float. I’ve never thought about the relationship between sinking/floating to germination success. It won’t take anything this time. Floaters are CLEARLY behind!
 

goldberg71b

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I did a hydrogen peroxide/water soak before hand but I’m assuming for not long enough. Should I pull them back out and do another soak?
Personally I have never exceed 12 hour soak usually shoot for 6 hours. I’m paying attention to this though. Because I’ve got a “little”vault :mrgreen:and it’s a simple matter of time before I’m in this situation.
 

dubekoms

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Looking good man! My soil did the same thing last time , they snapped right out of it with a few plain waterings. Orange/rust spots never healed though. Great yield heading your way .
Thanks! And yeah I'm just hitting them with water and yucca extract. Was having absorption issues with the soil but the yucca fixed that quickly.
 

goldberg71b

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I’m wondering if I should resort to that method or just try soaking them over night. I’m guessing you can’t soak for days on end or you will suffocate the seed. I don’t have any fulvic acid on hand at the moment. Hmmmm
I’ve always got suffocation on my mind with this. But I see plenty of people soaking until tails pop. But I’ve always to worried about suffocation to try it.
 

kona gold

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I don't think that really matters, does it ?

I soak seeds in pH,d water with a tad bit of peroxide until tails pop,

I also have some seeds from the mid-70s, the peroxide trick did not work so I'm going to up my game with a type of acid.

You may not have soaked your seeds long enough @BeeRaasta but you may have to move up to the next step as well.
Old seeds that aren't viable will start to get a rotten smell.
If they stink, wouldn't even bother, but if not, then you still have time.
 

kona gold

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Not that it matters but it there was one clear difference this round of germination. After 12 hr soak all of the GG4 seeds when tapped down in the water sunk to the bottom of the tiny bowl I put them in. However all of The White seeds all returned to floating position.

Trust me this is common. Some seeds will sink and other will float. But I’ve never seen all of one set sink and all of the other set float. I’ve never thought about the relationship between sinking/floating to germination success. It won’t take anything this time. Floaters are CLEARLY behind!
Don't like the one that never sink.
Sometimes too much peroxide will keep them floating with all the bubbles.
 

morgwar

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That's a really nice lady.......and mate as well.
You must be pumped!?!
Pretty happy really!
I was hoping to see what all the hype was about, and might get my wish.
6 identical plants basically. Tempted to run the other 6 just to see if its a fluke or the real deal.
Would be nice to have a run down on the background without playing scoobydoo mystery all over the net, but from I'm seeing there shouldn't be any real variation in this one.
 

BeeRaasta

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I started 10/13 at noon with 6 seeds of The white and 6 seeds of GG4. I soaked them for 12 hours. Then I did my thing put them between towels and hung them as stated previously. So 12 hr soak plus 45 hrs in towels it was time to check them. All 6 GG4 popped. None of The White popped yet. So I mixed up a bit more RO water with few drops of hydrogen peroxide. Removed The White seeds from the old towels and placed them in new paper towels wet with new solution and returned them to their hanging position. Obviously planted the GG4. View attachment 4027419
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The seed to the right was placed in there in the right direction but shifted when I was putting it in the ziplock bag. So it does have a 90 degree bend. But as you can see when done right there’s no curling. :bigjoint:
Awesome man, glad you shared that with me. I too retuned my whites to soak for a few and will be trying your method when done.
 

kona gold

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There’s not that many bubbles only 2-3 drops per cup of RO water is it.

As a matter of fact it’s not noticable to the eye.
Yes, 2 or 3 drops in s cup won't create that effect, I KNOW!
Just saying if you add more, like 1/4 cap, they will float no matter what.

But I do like the sealed bag, as I have good success that way.
You hang'em so the tails grow in one direction?
 
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