hoss12781
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Probably not. Getting more than 2 oz off an auto is difficult. You've already done very well.
Top 10 auto flower strains
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grodrowithme
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depending on what strain you grow some of these new super autos are yielding 4 OZs or more so it all depends on what strain you choose to grow
grodrowithme
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the afgan kush ryder and blue himilayin diesel both around 75-80 days max from seed each yielding 3 to 5 OZs if you ho back a few pages you will see the BHD and if you check my auto journal you will see the AKR
https://www.rollitup.org/auto-flowering-strains/508251-iranian-auto-flower.html
socalkushgenetics
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good question, should get multiple opinions
Brick Top
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I don't run separate vegging and flowering rooms, so that claimed "pro" is not a "pro" to me. Switching light cycles?
Gee, resetting a timer one single time during an entire grow, gosh that is difficult and time consuming, thank God that someone came out with a strain where you don't even have to change a timer one single time during a grow. Thanks to that now even "Rain Man" can grow! Again, not a "pro" to me.
Running 20-0 from seed to harvest. Again, not a "pro to me."
"Bud mass is packed on faster than conventional strains under 12-12?" I can guarantee you that is strain dependent and not something universal. That is a marketing claim to help sell the gimmick auto-flowering strains.
There are numerous short strains, growing methods can be used to keep them even shorter, and using them can increase the number of bud sites giving you more production. If indoors they can be started right from 12-12 and if a short flowering strain they can finish as fast or faster than an auto. If grown outdoors they can be started late so they have a minimal veg time before going into flower, just enough for the plants to gain a little strength and develop a good root structure. Again, the "pro" is not a "pro" in my book.
"Plants will mature outdoors during any part of year, , including non-traditional times?" "Any time of the year?" So that means I can grow winter crops outside and the cold will not effect them? Or what was said actually only means autos can be grown outdoors during normal growing climate months and they will not need the short day's of fall to flower and mature. I suppose to someone that's a "pro," but I live in an area with a long growing season and when I grow outdoors I like to make use of as much of it as I possibly can and can yield more from just one plant than a crop of autos that would have finished months earlier could give, and have a higher grade of herb to boot. So, that's another claimed "pro" that is not at all a "pro" to me.
There has been a long running argument among botanists that ruderalis belongs in the same classification as industrial hemp, largely because it's THC levels are most times on par with that of industrial hemp. So, someone takes a strain that is the virtual same quality as industrial hemp and crosses it with a good strain, thus watering down the genetics, and that includes potency, of the good strain and they claim it to be an advancement and attempt to sell the gimmick by listing "pros" that are not really "pros," because most are things that can be done using better photo-period genetics, but do require the incredible amount of effort of changing the settings on a timer one single time during a grow or possibly starting an outdoor crop later rather than earlier.
People, can't you see that auto-flowering strains are just one more thing in the line of pure gimmickry being pawned off on growers as some sort of advancement because breeders hit a brick wall about a decade or so ago when it comes to real true advancement.
There has not been any real true appreciable increase in potency and or yield in ages, even though the puppies always think strains grow better with each passing year.
So, what did breeders resort to? Gimmicks! They gave us hermie-prone feminized seeds, that they first tried to sell under the inaccurate and misleading name of female seeds. Then they gave us all sorts of pretty colors and they gave us all sorts of yummy flavors and exotic aromas. None were actual improvements, many were backward steps when it came to potency and or yield. And they they came out with the "Rain Man" strains. Strains so simple to grow that even "Rain Man" could grow them. Amazingly enough it does not matter to many if that ease of growing comes at the expense of potency and yield. Quality and quantity don't matter, not as long as you have the "pro" of not needing to be intelligent and skilled enough to change the settings on a timer one single time per crop.
When I was a boat dealer I was lucky enough to have the highest quality, best built pontoon boat of the time. No other manufacturer's product could stand up to it in a side by side 'Pepsi Challenge' situation. Selling them was like taking candy from a baby because there was so much quality, from bow to stern, that once customers learned of it they would throw rocks at the other makes they were considering.
One day I had a lesbian couple come in and look, and I lost the sale, right now the only lost sale I can remember, to the biggest 'Leakin' Lena' piece of crap pontoon boat made.
They brought it to my marina to keep in my drystack and when I saw the boat I was positive that they had decided to purchase a used boat rather than a new one. It had mismatched pontoons, and one had a long repair done to it, the top and carpet was so faded that it looked used, or at least like it had been left out baking in the sun for a few seasons, and it has a 2-stroke Suzuki outboard that was less than half the horsepower of the 4-stroke engine I had in the price I had given them for my boat.
They not only picked this floating wreck over my boat, but they paid more for it than my vastly superior product would have cost them, plus if they purchased from me they would get one year of free storage in the drystack that they then had to pay for right from day one.
I asked them; "why did you buy that boat over mine." The response was; "isn't it the prettiest color purple you ever saw?"
Their logic, rationale and reasoning behind their purchase was about equal to that of anyone who picks any auto-flowering strain over true quality genetics.
ThatGuy113
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Give it a rest, every time you come in here you change no ones mind. Just because the Lesbians didn't pick your boat doesn't mean the color purple is a gimmick. It just means that they probably had no idea what the hell you were trying to sell them besides the idea of "oh its a boat" or cared very little to learn. People do it with brand new cars all the time. That's just what suited them best in their opinion and that's all that matters. If you want to make the argument that auto growers are growing autos because of disinformation, there are just as many of those same misinformed types of growers if not more growing regular photo plants. How does it affect you in any shape or form if someone wants to grow it out. You have all analytic arguments and no hard proof. You want to come back with lab results, I'm sure we will at least listen for a few minutes. Poor consumerism by a random set of customers has little to do with the thought process taken to decide that Autos will produce bud more efficiently then growing straight photos for a certain grow setup. If you have limited room running 18/6 is perfect you can have younger plants with older flowering plants. That way perpetual grows can have shorter intervals. This isnt the Brick Top Marijuana connoisseur hour. It might be advisable to move your soap box down the street. Cause in the end all your left with is wasted effort. rabble rabble rabble
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hoss12781
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Brick Top we get it you don't like autos. If I had unlimited space I would grow photo period plants too. Just hop off our nuts for a second and realize they might have a place for the small home hobby garden. Some people don't have the time or talent to LST, top and train photos to grow in small grow environments. For those autos do make sense.
employedmale
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How do these auto flowering strains work?
Do they flower after a certain amount of vegitative growing?
Do they flower after a certain amount of vegitative growing?
ThatGuy113
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They flower based on age and not a change to a 12/12 light cycle. So they would flower automatically in even 24 hours of light.
employedmale
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Can you grow these plants in 24 ours light? Wow, these plants are a whole new thing to me. All the stains seem a little lacking though. The buds swell, but they don't seem to be all that full.
My guess is they are lacking, otherwise thats all anyone would grow. Harvest in 7 weeks from seed. That is unheard of.
My guess is they are lacking, otherwise thats all anyone would grow. Harvest in 7 weeks from seed. That is unheard of.
The Dawg
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I Grew Mine Under A 400 Watt CMH With A 20/4 Light Schedule.Mine Had Some Nice Buddage.What ya Think??Peace And Happy Harvesting
hoss12781
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Adressing the posts above. Usually you get about 2 weeks veg time then they'll show sex. I've gotten over 2 oz of really good smoke in less than 70 days seed to harvest. Autos are a result of breeding rudelaris into indica and sativa genetics. Rudelaris flowers automatically. The first auto strains that hit the market back in the early 2000s were pretty crappy, lucky to get 7 percent THC which is why you'll find people shitting on them calling them a waste of time
In the 10 plus years since their inception they have since improved exponentially, and well bred strains can achieve 18 percent THC. Autos, due to the rudelaris are also usually very high in CBD which is excellent for medicinal applications.
In the 10 plus years since their inception they have since improved exponentially, and well bred strains can achieve 18 percent THC. Autos, due to the rudelaris are also usually very high in CBD which is excellent for medicinal applications.
JohnnyCannabisSeed
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I thought Ruderalis based plants were pretty interesting back about ten to 12 years ago, but didn't have much use for them. Now days the place were I live is much smaller , outdoors it stays fairly warm most of the year too and I'm really considering it.
What seed dealer/breeder and strain do you all recommend
I'm thinking I'm gonna go with the Short Stuff collection and buy from everyonedoesit, anyone every have any success with this idea... I'm in the US.
Please help me, thanks!
What seed dealer/breeder and strain do you all recommend
I'm thinking I'm gonna go with the Short Stuff collection and buy from everyonedoesit, anyone every have any success with this idea... I'm in the US.
Please help me, thanks!
hoss12781
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Check the single seed centre. While most of Short Stuff's strains are top shelf I wasn't a fan of either of the blue diesel strains - good yield bad potency and the Super Cali Haze which was a total clusterfuck. 1/2 didn't germ and the other half were nearly impossible to grow and I've been at this for a while. All the others are GREAT. I'd say get on single seed centre and pick and mix buying a couple seeds from every strain that has a positive mention on this thread. You won't be dissapointed.
Also - GREAT stealth shipping!
Also - GREAT stealth shipping!
JohnnyCannabisSeed
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Thank you very much Hoss! I've been debating between about 4 seed shop SSC was one of the top three
I haven't had to buy seeds since the Marc Emery days, probably should have to keep up with the time of the ever changing ganja plant
I haven't had to buy seeds since the Marc Emery days, probably should have to keep up with the time of the ever changing ganja plant
hoss12781
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Couldn't give a better rec than single seed. Have used the attitude before and they'll get you your beans safe and sound but SSC is cheaper and has a better selection of pix and mix auto strains. SSC also has faster shipping, at least IME, compared to attitude. If you don't live in the USA look at www.dopeseeds.com they used to ship here and the service was great plus they always threw in a healthy amount of quality freebies but alas they nolonger ship stateside.