To flush or not to flush?

probo24

probo24

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VanishingToaster said:
hahahaha i thought he worked for the bloody company.

i wonder how much money is spent on flushing products....u think the ppl making these things aren't coming up with the biggest load of whatever it takes to sell u stuff? they want ur money caliburner and they'll capitalise on any myth they can to get u to part with your hard earned cash.
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Don't forget about pest "management" products. Those are a big money maker as well.
 
probo24

probo24

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irieie said:
i have done a side by side with two clones from the same plant. they were fed with fox farm nutrients tiger bloom and big bloom and the soluble tripack. there was a discernible difference in the two. thee one which was not flushed crackled and tasted like shit the other one was much smoother and had a better taste. this is my experience. now i use gh as a base and still flush in the last two weeks. if you feed with a salt based nutrient base, you will have salt buildup in your soil. if you give just plain water in the last two weeks, there is enough fertilizer still in the soil to be utilized by the plant in the last few weeks. i can see this when i check the ppms and ph of the runoff after watering with ro water. everyone's grow style is different and you must do things accordingly. what works for others may work for you and what works for you may work for others. whatever you choose to do, do it because it gives you the best end results.
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I've been growing cuttings of the same strain for the last year and a half, I use Fox Farms, never flush, and never have the problems you talk about.
The only time any weed i've grown has crackled is when the plants had mites.
I never smoke bud that hasn't been properly cured for at least a few weeks. I'm not sure how soon after your plants were dried you did your testing.
 
probo24

probo24

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iNFID3L said:
whats all this about leaving them in the dark for 3 days ?

then harvesting in the dark ?
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I hear that a lot. I suppose, so plants can produce extra trichomes.
(that will fully develop and mature to ripeness in three days)
 
iNFID3L

iNFID3L

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probo24 said:
I hear that a lot. I suppose, so plants can produce extra trichomes.
(that will fully develop and mature to ripeness in three days)
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i dunno what to make of that, i mean its hardly a naturally occurring phenomenon, lol
 
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irieie

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probo24 said:
I've been growing cuttings of the same strain for the last year and a half, I use Fox Farms, never flush, and never have the problems you talk about.
The only time any weed i've grown has crackled is when the plants had mites.
I never smoke bud that hasn't been properly cured for at least a few weeks. I'm not sure how soon after your plants were dried you did your testing.
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i dont always have time to sit on my buds for a few weeks and let them cure. this test was after a one week dry and 5 day cure. if you use all the foxfarm products (including the solubles) and never flush then you have salt buildup. or you are feeding at a very low ppm. do you use a ppm meter or just go by the charts. either way you will notice that the manufacturer recommends that you flush many times during the plants life. this is my experience, this is what happened. you can take it or leave it. it does not matter to me, i am gonna still do what works for me.
 
CaliBurner

CaliBurner

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Ok well basically im gettin alot of advice and tips & tricks from a few differnt friends of mine that do grow really good herb and they have been growing for years and they alwys told me to flush, and only flush the last week of harvest which would mean in soil ur only not feeding ur plant one time! In soil i only feed it every other watering! I have smoked bud that looks and smells great but tastes like shit and was told from older people that it most likely is chemicals, do u guys really thinl that feedin ur plany chemicals wont leave chemicals in ur bud?? That is common sense! I get what u guys are saying about the companies sayin watever to get u to buy there product and the royal flush might not work but over anything i will deffinitly flush the last week every harvest! Take this for example, if u cut a white flower or rose an put it in a cup of water with green food coloring the flower will turn green, which means it is in the leaves, ok u can either take it out of the water and dry it and the color will still be green which means the chemicals are still in it rather then flushing it with plain water! Get it?
 
probo24

probo24

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irieie said:
i dont always have time to sit on my buds for a few weeks and let them cure. this test was after a one week dry and 5 day cure. if you use all the foxfarm products (including the solubles) and never flush then you have salt buildup. or you are feeding at a very low ppm. do you use a ppm meter or just go by the charts. either way you will notice that the manufacturer recommends that you flush many times during the plants life. this is my experience, this is what happened. you can take it or leave it. it does not matter to me, i am gonna still do what works for me.
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Fair enough.
 
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VanishingToaster

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probo24 said:
I hear that a lot. I suppose, so plants can produce extra trichomes.
(that will fully develop and mature to ripeness in three days)
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its not extra trichs u get, ts extra resin, there are 600 odd active cannabinoid compounds within weed and we know bugger all about the majority of em, who's to say the kind of high u get is all down to ur trichs? obviously it polays a part but there are a lot more factors at work.

i had a noticeable difference after 48hours in the dark. i'll be doing it again in approx 2 weeks goin to leave it the full 3 days but i'll get pics done n dusted so u can see for urself
 
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kirttattoo

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Just a thought while in lala land in soil can u truly flush. seems to me that if your in soil no matter how much you run through that pot there are still lil guys in there eat and shittin causin nute production. and can you really get all the salts out or is it just an attemp to get out as much as possible. I can see growin hydro how its to seem more likely by just changinout the res with fresh h2o. But even then seems the medium will hold an leech into the fresh water. Gonna do a side by side on my GDP I just chopped got two of em real close in size and weight flushed one not the other gonna dry and cure same way same time and do a blind test with some of my connosuier buddys that have no clue been doin it. Ill let ya know the results.
 
rocpilefsj

rocpilefsj

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CaliBurner said:
Ok well basically im gettin alot of advice and tips & tricks from a few differnt friends of mine that do grow really good herb and they have been growing for years and they alwys told me to flush, and only flush the last week of harvest which would mean in soil ur only not feeding ur plant one time! In soil i only feed it every other watering! I have smoked bud that looks and smells great but tastes like shit and was told from older people that it most likely is chemicals, do u guys really thinl that feedin ur plany chemicals wont leave chemicals in ur bud?? That is common sense! I get what u guys are saying about the companies sayin watever to get u to buy there product and the royal flush might not work but over anything i will deffinitly flush the last week every harvest! Take this for example, if u cut a white flower or rose an put it in a cup of water with green food coloring the flower will turn green, which means it is in the leaves, ok u can either take it out of the water and dry it and the color will still be green which means the chemicals are still in it rather then flushing it with plain water! Get it?
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Only watering once before harvest would not be considered a flush, it would be considered a watering. A flush is usually two weeks of flushing with straight water, no nutes. So technically you are arguing the exact same point as me! If you read one of my previous posts that is exactly what I say. I used to listen to "older" people when I started growing too, they would tell me things like "make sure to hang your buds upside down so the THC drains into them from the stems". Just like on here, you need to be careful who you take advice from. And the food coloring... So that means I can make all my buds purple so they will be easier to sell to naive people who know nothing about weed?
 
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VanishingToaster

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kirttattoo said:
. Gonna do a side by side on my GDP I just chopped got two of em real close in size and weight flushed one not the other gonna dry and cure same way same time and do a blind test with some of my connosuier buddys that have no clue been doin it. Ill let ya know the results.
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would definitely be interested to hear how it goes. how long u gonna cure for ?
 
Cali chronic

Cali chronic

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I have found for me Flushing tastes better as I vape. I found that flushing needs to be done no longer then 7 maybe 10 days as you wash out the metals and she is susceptible to bugs and virus. I also use a Hudson sprayer and wash my girls down 3 days before chop, gives here time to dry out and gets neem oil and critters that may have nestled in there (outside grow) Inside grow do not bother to wash. I do not flush until 30% tri's are amber as to me that is an indicator she is ripe and will be done in about those 10 days. For what that is worth
I flush with R.O H2o nothing else. B.T.W
 
probo24

probo24

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VanishingToaster said:
its not extra trichs u get, ts extra resin, there are 600 odd active cannabinoid compounds within weed and we know bugger all about the majority of em, who's to say the kind of high u get is all down to ur trichs? obviously it polays a part but there are a lot more factors at work.

i had a noticeable difference after 48hours in the dark. i'll be doing it again in approx 2 weeks goin to leave it the full 3 days but i'll get pics done n dusted so u can see for urself
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I've seen the placebo effect, but thanks anyways
 
lee6

lee6

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like someone said before. flush 1 and dont flush the other see whats best. otherwise i dont think theres much dif
 
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