Time For Solar Energy

Rrog

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It requires energy to build things. We currently get energy from oil and coal.

The answer isn't to stop building things that significantly improve your situation.
 

Rrog

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What I find on a lot of sites (weed, green energy, solar sites, etc) are people who are waiting for the answer in the form of tech not soon available. Like H cells. Very cool and I'd love to store energy with them someday.

That's not keeping me from taking advantage of solar today, however. I can generate a great return on investment with solar panels today.
 

ULEN

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If there's any kings and queens of the castle in Cali up in here that are thinking about going solar while saving full cost for the system, PM me.
 

reddan1981

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the first wireless energy transmitter was invented over a hundred years ago by Nicola Tesla. Energy surrounds us. All that is needed to receive this energy is to tune to the correct frequencies. Too much Money is made through dirty energy. Once these resources are spent, only then will we be 'allowed' clean,free energies.
 

Rrog

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lol. Well, you still have to generate it before you can transmit it. Through a wire or not.
 

Doer

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the first wireless energy transmitter was invented over a hundred years ago by Nicola Tesla. Energy surrounds us. All that is needed to receive this energy is to tune to the correct frequencies. Too much Money is made through dirty energy. Once these resources are spent, only then will we be 'allowed' clean,free energies.
Come on. Tesla would have made it impossible to have the modern world. To much interference for communications.

Your idea that "energy is everywhere" is not correct in the way you say it. The EM field is everywhere. But, we don't have the means to draw the energy across it. 2nd Law of Thermodynamics? There are the pesky laws of Physics and there will always be those that think there is something for nothing. Cold Fusion, anyone?

And we only wish there was an uber-power to eventually "allow us" if we are good, and they decide. It is exactly like God or Santa Claus, a way to punt responsibility.

No higher beings, no Space Aliens. It is just us monkeys. And monkeys are dangerous to each other. If one monkey gets the energy secret, other monkeys will kill and steal for it. So, no there is no Illuminate running this world, sadly.
 

reddan1981

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IF I were more keen to PROVE my point I would. To save your embarrassment (and possibly my own) I will ask that you research more before imposing your arguments.
 

ttystikk

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Come on. Tesla would have made it impossible to have the modern world. To much interference for communications.

Your idea that "energy is everywhere" is not correct in the way you say it. The EM field is everywhere. But, we don't have the means to draw the energy across it. 2nd Law of Thermodynamics? There are the pesky laws of Physics and there will always be those that think there is something for nothing. Cold Fusion, anyone?

And we only wish there was an uber-power to eventually "allow us" if we are good, and they decide. It is exactly like God or Santa Claus, a way to punt responsibility.

No higher beings, no Space Aliens. It is just us monkeys. And monkeys are dangerous to each other. If one monkey gets the energy secret, other monkeys will kill and steal for it. So, no there is no Illuminate running this world, sadly.
Excellent points, all of them. No one is stopping any of us from pursuing energy saving or alternative production strategies. The simple fact is that we have explored the lie hanging fruit and now it gets a bit harder.

Passive home technology reduces the need to generate power to heat the home through better efficiency. This is also part of the answer.
 

Doer

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Excellent points, all of them. No one is stopping any of us from pursuing energy saving or alternative production strategies. The simple fact is that we have explored the lie hanging fruit and now it gets a bit harder.

Passive home technology reduces the need to generate power to heat the home through better efficiency. This is also part of the answer.
We waste energy like pigs slop food into the mud.
 

Doer

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IF I were more keen to PROVE my point I would. To save your embarrassment (and possibly my own) I will ask that you research more before imposing your arguments.
Why don't you come clean and admit you have no source no proof, just babble. I am a research Scientist, dumb ass.
 

reddan1981

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Why don't you come clean and admit you have no source no proof, just babble. I am a research Scientist, dumb ass.
I am many things including a dumb ass, however you are an illiterate pretender. I could cut and paste my way out of this argument, with arguments' already written but I'm no jack ass faking my intellectual prowess
 

ttystikk

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We waste energy like pigs slop food into the mud.
Sweet dear Jesus, this is an understatement.
Example; an aluminum twelve ounce soda pop can requires the same amount of electricity to manufacture it as running your FIFTY INCH WIDESCREEN FOR OVER FOUR HOURS. That's bad, this is worse;

Americans throw away enough aluminum cans to rebuild THE ENTIRE COMMERCIAL AIRLINE FLEET... EVERY YEAR!

Another example; did you know coal mining union industry lobbyists have inserted rules that effectively force many coal operations to burn TWICE AS MUCH COAL PER KILOWATT as the designers could manage.

Think about that the next time you hear the buzzwords 'clean coal'.
 

ttystikk

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Or, how about all the gas you put in your car or truck to get you around? You only weigh the to five percent of the entire rolling mass of your vehicle, so only three to five percent of all that gas money you spend is actually moving YOU.
 

ttystikk

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No society can survive the depletion of its essential resources, but this country seems to be in a historical (hysterical?) race to do exactly that.

You want to save your kids from this fate, go to war against the top .01 percent income earners in this country. There's only 4000 families making nearly a quarter of our entire GNP- which gives them powerful incentive to continue running it into the ground. After all, they reason (wrongly, of course) THEY won't suffer.

They'll be the first to be targeted, and they know it.
 

Doer

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Or, how about all the gas you put in your car or truck to get you around? You only weigh the to five percent of the entire rolling mass of your vehicle, so only three to five percent of all that gas money you spend is actually moving YOU.
The rest is your survival/comfort cage
 
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