Thoughts on this setup?

Here's my plan
Perpetual harvest.
1 - 5x5 tent for vegging
1 - 5x5 tent for drying
1 - 9x9 for flowering. The 9x9 is a Supercloset with the four LEDs and 24 site DWC buckets.
Any thoughts on this setup? For a mechanically disadvantaged guy with a bum leg, is it possible to build it cheaper? Potential yields? Thanks for any info

Tell us about the rooms you are planning on using. Dimensions, what floor, what's above/below?

You don't need the reflectivity or anything fancy for drying, I would make that a simple wood box with whatever fan/controllers/filter you want and keep a fan on super low at all times to keep the negative pressure.

Set sounds pretty nice. Simple. I agree with the harvest tent. No need to waste money on that. Spare closet or cheap box would work well. Not a big fan of LED. Yields with LED - significantly smaller...

DangerDave said:

Set sounds pretty nice. Simple. I agree with the harvest tent. No need to waste money on that. Spare closet or cheap box would work well. Not a big fan of LED. Yields with LED - significantly smaller...

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That is only when some silly bastard compares a 1000w HPS/MH/HID to a "1000w" LED that actually uses 600w or less. Convert your lighting values into lumens, put an X lumen HPS/MH/HID against a X lumen LED, the LED will win every single time, and for 1 reason alone, they are directional. 40% or more of the light from a HPS/MH/HID must first bounce off of a reflector before hitting the target. You really get about 80% from a HPS/MH/HID to make it to your target. With LED you can put that to 100%. So a 10,000 lumen HPS will have about 8,000 lumens of usable, and a 10,000 lumen LED will have 10,000 lumens usable.

If you want cheap you will have to DIY. I will quote myself to give you a DIY led option:

nomofatum said:

When balancing up front cost, performance, and ease of construction I picked these:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Wholesale-10pcs-of-lot-30W-LED-Chip-for-Floodlight-Flood-light-Warm-Cool-white-6000k-6500k/2011319079.html

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/400W-S400W-36V-11A-LED-Switching-Power-Supply-36V-11A-85-265AC-input-CE-ROSH-power/1544392301.html

Add a piece of flat stock aluminum, thermal adhesive, a lamp cord, and 2 splice connectors per chip and you have a very high power light strip, perfect for making a grid for optimal distribution. I don't over power them, I run 15 on 400w.

I'm actually waiting on my second order of these now.

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nomofatum said:

That is only when some silly bastard compares a 1000w HPS/MH/HID to a "1000w" LED that actually uses 600w or less. Convert your lighting values into lumens, put an X lumen HPS/MH/HID against a X lumen LED, the LED will win every single time, and for 1 reason alone, they are directional. 40% or more of the light from a HPS/MH/HID must first bounce off of a reflector before hitting the target. You really get about 80% from a HPS/MH/HID to make it to your target. With LED you can put that to 100%. So a 10,000 lumen HPS will have about 8,000 lumens of usable, and a 10,000 lumen LED will have 10,000 lumens usable.

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But I would still have to say my 8,000 lumen HPS will yield more then your 10,000 lumen LED. If never used LED so I'm not talk from experience just opinion.

DangerDave said:

But I would still have to say my 8,000 lumen HPS will yield more then your 10,000 lumen LED. If never used LED so I'm not talk from experience just opinion.

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I've played with both, 1200w of the 3w Epistars (the 30w ones I linked to are the same as 10 of these on one chip) and a 1000w HPS. I would have to dig up the notes to get the exact weights, but if I remember correctly there was at least 25% more weight.

Northern Lights, using MaxiGro/Bloom.

Tents are really for trying to do multiple things in one room (light separation,) or for constantly moving operations, or for renters. If your use fits those, get tents, if not setup your room.

pfff LEDS funkin blow.

5x5 is overkill for drying like said. Although a dedicated drying closet is nice. Make sure your able to control temp and humidity in this area at all times.

24 dwc buckets......could be good or really bad. Whats the details?

- Jiji

24 DWC buckets in a 9x9? Id say over kill. Small buckets? screening her up? Im not one to talk soil all the way

DangerDave said:

24 DWC buckets in a 9x9? Id say over kill. Small buckets? screening her up? Im not one to talk soil all the way

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I'm doing 24 5 gallon buckets in a 4x8 space, what do you think about that?

24 isn't that many for that space, I would do a 7x7 grid in a 9x9 myself.

nomofatum said:

I'm doing 24 5 gallon buckets in a 4x8 space, what do you think about that?

24 isn't that many for that space, I would do a 7x7 grid in a 9x9 myself.

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How tall do you allow them? I think that's a lot but something must be working right.

DangerDave said:

How tall do you allow them? I think that's a lot but something must be working right.

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It's going to be the first grow in this room, so who knows, but 1.33 sqft each isn't crazy low, I expect to do 2-3 weeks of veg.

In past 4x8 projects if done 6-8 plants in 7-10 gal pots. Big difference haha. Best of luck.

Thanks for all the input!

The specs are:
Gorilla Grow Tent 9′x 9′x 6’11″ (7’11″ w/ extension - I wish I could do this!)

24 Site Bubble Flow Buckets or 52 Site Super Flow (going with buckets as I was told the yield would be bigger due to DWC{?})

K5-XL1000 Kind LED Grow Lights
filters, trellis, air pumps etc

The reason for the tent for drying is I'm really trying to control odor.
Per the manufacturer, all of this uses standard power, no need to call an electrician. What are your thoughts?
I would thinking of setting up the 5x5 in a different room, it would run off different circuit that way.
I'll get exact dimensions in next post..

f0nzy said:

24 Site Bubble Flow Buckets

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I saw a friend grow like this one time. Do you have a helluva lot of time on your hands?

How often are you going to change out and check ph, tds, water levels in each of them 25 buckets.

If you want to do 25 buckets in hydro in a small space look into hempy.

- Jiji

The buckets will have a different pH than the res??
Time is another thing. I may need to get away for a week or two. According to the vendor, the system can be left alone for 2 weeks.. lOL... I knew that sounded too good to be true.

DangerDave said:

But I would still have to say my 8,000 lumen HPS will yield more then your 10,000 lumen LED. If never used LED so I'm not talk from experience just opinion.

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I have done both and LED can produce just as much if you do your research about proper LED spectrums like the new X5 or even an R4 will produce more lumens than an HPS or and HID without the heat or reflector to worry about. just my opinion from trying both. LED's rock

Seems like she thought you meant 25 individual DWC buckets? The 24 Site Bubble Flow circulates from the res.

how big of water reservoir(s)you planning? 24 5gal DWC's w/ 2-3 week veg time... you have to remember you need to do more than fit the plants in your grow tent, you need to be able to access them, test Ph, ppm, check/adjust water levels, apply any foliars, etc.

I have ONE 5g dwc bucket (Greenhouse seeds Jack Herer) and the thing is out of control, lol, I gave her 2 weeks veg, the broad leaves on it are larger than my handspan could dream, stems on the leaves thick as my pinky at the base....

Bitch drinks 1-2inches of water a day in that bucket... and shes approaching the 2 week mark, lol.

Also... how you plan to control water temps? After several shit DWC grows, and this one with more knowledge.... Keeping that water 65f is like magic.... healthy white roots n vigorous growth.... Do no underestimate the need of a chiller in a setup that big...

You can prolly reduce your plant count easily, and produce the same high yield....