This is gonna get interesting! Militia takes over Ore. federal building after protest.

undercovergrow

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as @ChesusRice said, if Brown was surrendering, then wasn't the rancher? reports came out that even after Brown was shot, he was attempting to rush the officer. i'm not wanting to find the officers guilty of anything, i'd like to know why the FBI released that video which makes it look like he reached for something...but was he just reaching for where he was shot? that's all i want to know.
 

NLXSK1

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as @ChesusRice said, if Brown was surrendering, then wasn't the rancher? reports came out that even after Brown was shot, he was attempting to rush the officer. i'm not wanting to find the officers guilty of anything, i'd like to know why the FBI released that video which makes it look like he reached for something...but was he just reaching for where he was shot? that's all i want to know.
Let me ask you a question... How badly would people be flipping out if the FBI refused to release the video?

Again, there are bad cops and bad shootings but this isnt one of them. The problem is that people are going to hear stuff like he was surrendering and the police shot him in the face. That is almost certainly not true here but people will believe it just like with Michael Brown with hands up dont shoot even though all the evidence pointed toward him charging the cop.

So people hear that cops are bad when cops are bad and then people hear that cops are bad when cops are not bad and people who dont like cops say shit like all cops are abusers, all cops are bad.

Police have a tough fucking job. They have to be dicks to people over laws they didnt write. They are not supposed to pick and choose and they deal with hostile people day in and day out.

I dont think it is helpful to constantly portray them as the villans when we clearly need them in society.
 

NLXSK1

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You guys are making the common mistake of believing what the pigs say!

Pigs are liars, and everything they say is a self-serving lie.

When I see a pig quoted, I know better than to believe it. You should too!

:mrgreen:
They ... released.... the..... video....

Or dont you believe that either? ;]
 

undercovergrow

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@NLXSK1 the FBI have refused to release video as recently as November 2015 (Jamar Clark) because it's an active investigation. the fact they released this video is an exception to their normal policy regarding active investigations. what other recent release of video have we seen recently? ...the San Bernardino shooter's apartment. it seems to me that lately they release stuff to fit their narrative while the majority of the time they refuse to comment or share evidence of active investigations.
 

2ANONYMOUS

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That is the thing police are potrayed as the evil there are good cops and other cops that let it get to there head at the end of the day there people doing a job to protect and serve so many ways things can get out of hand, Yes i believe more training is needed in police force and more screening mentally to become one
I know of some older police years ago that pulled me over being impaired and followed me home stating do not drive anymore tonight , that is un herd of today they will throw the book at you
Todays cops are scared i mean with all the right to bear arms fucking rights if i was a cop i would be like holding my gun out for a simple pull over
From 20 years ago to now lets face it people are at the brink of i do not give a crap anymore
So which is it ???
I would hate being a Cop today imagine the stress and the BS they go through every day from simple family brawls to actual shootings or killings man the world is a fucked up place
bacj then no need to lock your doors it was all safe i dare you to not lock up your house or car see what happens today
 

Fogdog

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There is a thread on this board that details pretty well why many if not most that post here are not willing to trust what the police say:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/f-ck-the-police.888322/

For myself, I think Finnicum committed suicide. But I'm waiting for more information before making up my mind. That first bit was a bit too sanitary for me to settle on their story.
 

Fogdog

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Well if they are all so fucking horrible lets just get rid of them and let gangs roam the streets. At least we dont have to pay them right?
"not willing to trust" is what I said. Not disbelieve, not "they are all liars" and not "just get rid of them. You said that last bit. I can be skeptical without shutting down my mind. You can't, I guess.
 

potroastV2

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I have excellent abilities to communicate, and I don't need to use inane ellipses.

I'm positive that you will not understand what I mean.

:mrgreen:
 

UncleBuck

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all the evidence pointed toward him charging the cop.
actually, it was just the statement of two cops that said that.

not a single other eyewitness said he was charging, and there were 19 of those.

so it wasn't all the evidence if we are being honest, which a racist like you would never do.
 

OddBall1st

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Let me ask you a question... How badly would people be flipping out if the FBI refused to release the video?

Again, there are bad cops and bad shootings but this isnt one of them. The problem is that people are going to hear stuff like he was surrendering and the police shot him in the face. That is almost certainly not true here but people will believe it just like with Michael Brown with hands up dont shoot even though all the evidence pointed toward him charging the cop.

So people hear that cops are bad when cops are bad and then people hear that cops are bad when cops are not bad and people who dont like cops say shit like all cops are abusers, all cops are bad.

Police have a tough fucking job. They have to be dicks to people over laws they didnt write. They are not supposed to pick and choose and they deal with hostile people day in and day out.

I dont think it is helpful to constantly portray them as the villans when we clearly need them in society.

How about no camera`s at all ? These guys may have gotten respect and a following had they the balls needed to take the state courthouse over. Instead they take up arms and capture a empty bird watching building. Big statement just by what they did, not by what they want.

Sure we got badasses here like Rollie that talk a good fucking game, but rest assured, there are people that think these guys are just a bunch of attention grabbing pussies. It would serve our Country better to just drag that bleeding punk down the street tied to the bumper. If you`re gonna command the law, command the law, if you are or have been defeted by the law, you end up being the one that shouts names out and calls them liars or whatever badassness you can type.

I certainly would not stand by a bunch of guys with deer rifles taking over an empty building cuz the birds wont be back til Spring, demanding that the Government change or listen to them and their issues. That`s the kind of shit that gets you killed for nothing and accomplishes nothing. That`s exactly what went down, they accomplished nothing with one dead and two wounded. Not badass any way you look at it.

I been beat up, shot at, arrested and jailed by the law in my lifetime, but I don`t feel defeated because I still have my dignity.

So when you see those people taking empty buildings, or those defeted and shouting profanities, demanding, and then crying,...Think about what real men would do, then go that way.

When you see those that constantly portray the police as villains, liars and control freaks filled with racism, think of the defeated, then go where the real men are, you`ll see your objective reached.
 
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