~The way back machine~ Before the pigs came~

**Thanks to Oscilate for saving these pictures all these years for me and for turning me onto Photography. These were taken from 2000- 2001 prior to my incarceration these pictures were rescued and most have never been seen before by anyone with the exception a few famous pics from OG**

Long Long ago in a Galaxy far away there lived a humble farmer, I grew my fruits and sold them to locals and everything was good. I added C02 and my harvest went through the roof. I was pulling down 60-70 zipps every 60 days using a three room set up.

Life was good and elbos went for 6K and everyone had red eyes. I had to meet some new folks as I had weight just sitting around I ended up feeding a rat and you know the rest.

I did my time for the crime so it ain’t no biggie to rap about it


First up is pics of Bubbi's Apollo-13. This is the same clone I have now but I lost this in the bust and it was returned to me by a good friend. When I outcrossed it I caused a few waves as it was regarded somewhat as a scared cutting but hell I had a copy from Sly himself here is the visuals on it but I am glad to say its all good now I sent out gifts and everyones happy.

Hang on Tight it's going to be a BIG show!

I did most things the same back then with a few exceptions. I used a simple mix of potting soil and worm castings and fed my plants with an organic stew. I ran a 8x11 area with 2 1000’s on a mover that added 16” of travel to extend the normal 11x6 2 extra feet with no problems. You will see the rig I built later to accomplish this.

This is the famous Batgirl! These genetics were used by Bog to create lifesaver and others

This is FrostyB the local favorite Jacks Cleaner X Blueberry by Vic. This is the seed lot Bog used to make Lifesaver. We can see why It literally drips with resin and even though it resembles JC the Blueberry father was dominant and this was a lemon berry treat.

yet another JCB Phenotype

This is the famous California Orange from AE I met him at my place down south and he made a big impression on me and taught me to grow the way you see here. I used to do 7 tables with organic hydro 24 to a table and worked my ass off. He showed me big plants and huge harvest with canopy management. Thanks AE If your out there I didn’t forget!

Here are the three areas at max capacity. Small vegg wall to wall and budding. Large bloom area plants look like there dead but a few more days and things will be happy lots and lots of trimming and hanging and drying taking place . To keep the place cool I added a 10” duct that dumped straight down into the crop off a small 1-1/2 ton A/C.

The panels you se are wrapped with foylon and if you think there bright inside you should have seen them after the piggies tossed them into the sunlight. It made me a believer in the stuff or at least a generic equivalent.

This is what is known as cash cropping.

More full shots

Main Vegetive rooms

Lets look at Vics Killer Queen, if you don’t know there was more than 1 pheno back then in my garden. I started 15 seeds and worked down to the best 3 females. Back then males didn’t mean anything DOH!!! So The one we know now as KQ or Mango was actually KQ#3. KQ#2 was the g-13 dominant and KQ#3 just was good. These are pictures of her over that time period. This one was passed on back then to good friends and was not lost and is the one smoked all over north America today still.

My friend that saved mango was blown away by the G-13 Dominant pheno but he agreed the Mango was so close in potency and 10X the taste. The first time I dried some out and smoked it I literally got a mild trip and sat in my back yard in the sun like some sun worshiping hippie. Oh yeah I am We used this mom to make Danny Boy and the Queen Annes Revenge.

Good Times God yes Bubbatail when my friend sent this zip file I sat and looked at each pic many times. It brought back many memories good and bad. These were the days of sleeping lightly and trusting no one*(I didn’t follow this rule well enough)* but also great friend good times and discovering amazing genetics each one better than the last.

This is the famed Genius it is very similar to the Apollo-13 which makes since being a parent along with P-75. Genius had less fruit taste and more of a sour funk almost rotten or fermenting fruit. The main reason this strain did not get passed along is again I didn’t know what I had for one thing, no one did. You could talk to Soul, Vic, or Sly anytime until Trolls ran them underground or off. So we just knew the A-13 yielded more and was a bit easier to grow so I never gave a cut to anyone before the door crashed in.

Jacks Cleaner is an old friend as you can see I have had her along time. I would like to first thank Skoosh who gave me the original beans and this is what he had to say about the Seeds.
“Well, actually let's start with "skosh"
1985 SSSC (Nevil's)
NL#5 X Pluton
Back crossed into the original NL#5 mom.
NL#5/Pluton X Purple Haze
Backed into the NL#5 mom”

He crosses it with some crazy Jamaican he had and then back to some kush he had so it’s a crazy combo for sure. All I can tell you is I spoke of it for 5 years to badboy who during that time traveled all over tasting some of the best and making friends with Bubbleman and others. I think hes a pretty good judge of good cannabis and when we finally got an f1 cutting to him and he grew it out the results were impressive to say the least and he aggress for sheer potency it’s the work horse of the species.
Its best harvested at 56 but max yield and potency are better at 63 were she takes on a bite. The bubble is absolutely brutal having a flesh tone and a better taste than the actual bud. I have tried many ways to improve the taste of the actual mom using growing methods and finally gave up and created Hybrids like JCB and now JTR that has a sweet mango/lemon flavor and a smoother draw with the same pronounced resin if not more.

jaw meet floor - hello

Insane pictures ,, Im sure you have some story's .. I'm glad you done with "your time" ad getting back into the swing of things Do yourself a favor. Grow for yourself dont sell it and most of all .. Dont make any new friends , Or dont let them know what you do .. Peace Thanks for the pic's

Awesome pics, Sub! Great stories too. Thanks for sharing...

~Rock~

I want you to know I have lost this girl 4 different times 3 times alone to piggies so if I seem obsessed with her Excuse Me! ( Steve Martin Reference) Each time good friend like Pi, Walking Dude, and STP returned her to me. We know have the clone secured on multiple continents.

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This is an old story I have been legal for almost 4 tears give weed away here never take coins.

I got busted by living down south and selling weed simple I moved

Jacks Cleaner Blueberry Lets look at what now would be considered a selection thread. The only problem is I only pollinated enough for about 40 seeds so the first 15 used up a lot. I sent a few friends some but I don’t know where they might be. I sent Bog the rest I figured that X a bubblegum would be insane of flavor if stabilized. You are looking at my first cross and the criteria was only it had maroon stems and lemon berry sounded good to me! You can’t count me Crossing the male Jack Herer to the Cleaner Pheno it was the only way to preserve it and I only made a hand full of seeds.
We got some variation but at that time I didn’t know really why. I read everything I could and shortly before this run ended I had at least a plan to make the JC bx I just didn’t get a chance to follow through for 4 years. You can see I had some clue I had each female labeled and I took clones and budded each female under the same conditions to select the best. My male selection criteria was stupid Blue Color and a berry smell wow I still use the same simple ideas but now we work a male with many known females to determine his traits. This is one reason I re started with Space Queen as a male and why JTR is far superior over JCB.

We also got a sativa Pheno that STP dubbed Speed racer due to its hazsy speedy buzz. I think he grows it to this day. But the good news looking back I guess is 3 females were very similar. All were extremely potent and had a instant nap quality. I had many a friend take a few bong rips and pass out on my couch.

I met ~Shabang about this time and Tommy^2 left some Micanopy Moonbean aka Gainesville Green and he left some cuts in the fridge say 42 degrees F. back then we thought you had to snip, dip and root or it wouldn’t work the book all said that and Ed mentioned an air bubble and cloning underwater. We know that’s crap and cuts will live in the cooler for weeks and this allows us to not use moms! That’s right I said it I heard other breeders cringed at the thought it’s a simple process of making sure you have backs ups and a good cloning system. If you get 95% and you take 2 cuts your probably going to get both to live. Taking cuts from veg and storing in the time machine ( Refrigerator Crisper) until we root them and they become the next crop. Call it continuous moms.

You can see the small area here,

I was in Amsterdam in 1999 standing in line at the Blue Bird to buy some Malana Cream and some Thwizla Hash. The red haired dude there that works as a cutter was offering Warlock seeds from Magnus genetics for like 50 guilders a pack at the time a pack of AK-47 was 300$ so I grabbed a few packs. Iterestingly enough that same year the guy that created Great White Shark was selling 50 seeds for 25 Guilders should have bought a few thousand I guess. I have never been one to mince my words and I won’t stop now. While its unique strawberry smell gave it great buyer appeal the weed was shite and lacked any ready body or potency. Sure looked nice though!

I was harvesting so much weed back then I permanently smelled like a bud. When I left the house I kept smelling weed, seems the resin had permeated my skin or some shit. Thanks to AE I no longer grew little 16” tall plants but full size mommas fitted together to form a solid carpet of buds. I use the same basic method today but I allow much more room in between each plant and quantity isn’t my goal now but max quality. I no longer use c02 for a few reasons I have 3 kids in the home and we have more weed than we can smoke or give away now. Our laws prevent the sale of any meds so extra just gets turned into cookies and I have to trim it so we grow what we need.

Back then we tracked every gram and me and several friends competed for the largest show harvest I didn’t win btw I had a FNG run 16 JC under 2K in same rig with c02 and he vegged em to long. He pulled 74 zipps off 2K. Some of the qp’s were 4 buds zipps.

This ends this saga I hope you found it as cool as I did!

If you want to read what happened next

You can check my book out in Sept

Dank: The Quest for the Very Best Marijuana: A Breeder's Tale by Subcool
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Based on the author's 20 years of passionate selection and experience, Dank: The Very Best Marijuana is the story of one breeder's quest for pot perfection. Author Subcool, both a talented photographer and a well-known breeding whiz, describes each step of his journey toward ganja heaven: raising each strain, mixing and matching traits, and ultimately choosing the offspring that will advance to become the newest pinnacle in pot — the newest dank. Revealing his thought processes as he assesses the traits that will go forward, Subcool provides an intimate portrait of each variety's personality. Beautifully lit photos and full-color spreads accompany these complete descriptions of over 35 varieties, with detailed profiles of each strain's aroma, taste, and high, as well as how it grows, and what it looks like. Useful appendices feature full genetic trees of each strain discussed.


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