The universe itself is God

MeJuana

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Something can't come from nothing so therefore nothing can not exist. If nothing could exist we would be nothing since nothing is the theoretical start. So if nothing can't exist then everything must exist. Therefore somewhere in some plain of reality all things are true. The only real question is which plain of reality are we on? By the way I think we are the universe and we are all part of the same energy that brought everything into existence. We may never be in this state of matter again but we will always exist.
 

x15

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Not some invisible man in the sky.
The universe controls everything has rules of physics controls gravity and should be worshiped more than some invisible man in the sky.

by definition God (if the biblical definition is used). God would have to be outside of creation, the things made, like the universe. God would have to be something more powerful than the universe & the laws of physics in order to create them, for example, cause & effect, the cause has to be greater than the effect.

scientists tell us time was created at the beginning of the universe. God is outside of time. the universe is stuck in time since it had a beginning & it has a ending event.

by definition, there is God then everything else, creation.

'In the beginning God created the heavens & the earth.'
genesis 1:1

'...before you had formed the earth & the world,
from eternity past to eternity future you are God.'
psalms 90:2

:)
 

Dalek Supreme

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by definition God (if the biblical definition is used). God would have to be outside of creation, the things made, like the universe. God would have to be something more powerful than the universe & the laws of physics in order to create them, for example, cause & effect, the cause has to be greater than the effect.

scientists tell us time was created at the beginning of the universe. God is outside of time. the universe is stuck in time since it had a beginning & it has a ending event.

by definition, there is God then everything else, creation.

'In the beginning God created the heavens & the earth.'
genesis 1:1

'...before you had formed the earth & the world,
from eternity past to eternity future you are God.'
psalms 90:2

:)
Besides your argument from ignorance, what made God?
 

Rob Roy

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Something can't come from nothing so therefore nothing can not exist. If nothing could exist we would be nothing since nothing is the theoretical start. So if nothing can't exist then everything must exist. Therefore somewhere in some plain of reality all things are true. The only real question is which plain of reality are we on? By the way I think we are the universe and we are all part of the same energy that brought everything into existence. We may never be in this state of matter again but we will always exist.

So, in other words when somebody asks us, "what's the matter" ?

A proper reply would be, "everything" ?
 
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