The true nature of Now

Doer

Well-Known Member
Remember that game, Simon Says?

Simon Says come to arms length.
Simon Says move half way closer.
Simon Says move half way closer. (she does)
Simon Says move half way closer. ( you kiss her)

That's how I used to play. :)

Homer Simpson goes the the movies,
to the Googleplex. Funny... the largest named number.

Can you divide 1 second, by 1 googleplex?
By 2 googleplex, by googleplex googleplex?
Sure. You'll soon realized there is no end
to the subdivisions of 1 second.

Well, what is Now? Just a bit of the mind flip. Now is vast and everylasting. All else runs through it. It's science, but only the human mind can observe the quantum still point?
 

Michael Sparks

Active Member
Remember that game, Simon Says?

Simon Says come to arms length.
Simon Says move half way closer.
Simon Says move half way closer. (she does)
Simon Says move half way closer. ( you kiss her)

That's how I used to play. :)

Homer Simpson goes the the movies,
to the Googleplex. Funny... the largest named number.

Can you divide 1 second, by 1 googleplex?
By 2 googleplex, by googleplex googleplex?
Sure. You'll soon realized there is no end
to the subdivisions of 1 second.

Well, what is Now? Just a bit of the mind flip. Now is vast and everylasting. All else runs through it. It's science, but only the human mind can observe the quantum still point?
I like that Simon says.. think i'll give it a try

What is a googleplex ? I think you may have meant Googol.

A googol is 10 to the 100th power (which is 1 followed by 100 zeros). A googol is larger than the number of elementary particles in the universe, which amount to only 10 to the 80th power. The term was invented by Milton Sirotta, the 9-year nephew of mathematician Edward Kasner, who had asked his nephew what he thought such a large number should be called. Such a number, Milton apparently replied after a short thought, could only be called something as silly as a "googol."

Later, another mathematician devised the term googolplex for 10 to the power of googol - that is, 1 followed by 10 to the power of 100 zeros. Frank Pilhofer has determined that, given Moore's Law (which is that computer processor power doubles about every 1 to 2 years), it would make no sense to try to print out a googolplex for another 524 years - since all earlier attempts to print a googolplex out would be overtaken by the faster processor.
-Definition from Whatis.com

Nice mind tinglier Doer..
 

RyanTheRhino

Well-Known Member
All you are doing is describing infinity.....................

but it shows the difference between engineers and physics majors

The physicist will look at the math and say its impossible but an engineer will apply his knowledge to know she will be close enough to grab a kiss lol...


point is

physicist = theory
engineers = application ... like why we want the girl to move closer
 

Doer

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But, no. Infiinty is an ordered list, a stack of quarters beyond the moon toward forever. Light years to infinity. Infinity of the small. pico-seconds, googol-seconds? You want even smaller infinity? Where is the Now in that?

Eternity (devoid of religion conotation, please grant) is timeless and endless not an ordered list, at all. Now is eternity. That's all there is.
So mundane? Try to swim to now. Will your inner dialog allow you?

And I can't help it if all the best words are already taken. :)
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
OK, name a favorite, high octane activity. Something you do.
Down hill skiing
skydiving
auto racing
motorbike in the twisties
etc

I'm not thinking about my laundry list or that delightful Pinot Noir I'll pick up later.
I'm in the eternity of the moment.
 

tyler.durden

Well-Known Member
What's really fascinating is that 'now' isn't even an objective measure: the present moment for us on Earth is not the 'now' conscious beings in Andromeda (if there are any) are experiencing. If they were to look at the Earth in their now/present, they may being seeing Earth with dinosaurs on it, or hundreds of years in our future (can't do the math to figure out which). I knew time was relative, but it still blows my mind that we don't even share the present...
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
OK, name a favorite, high octane activity. Something you do.
Down hill skiing
skydiving
auto racing
motorbike in the twisties
etc

I'm not thinking about my laundry list or that delightful Pinot Noir I'll pick up later.
I'm in the eternity of the moment.
...huffing avgas! cn
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
But, no. Infiinty is an ordered list, a stack of quarters beyond the moon toward forever. Light years to infinity. Infinity of the small. pico-seconds, googol-seconds? You want even smaller infinity? Where is the Now in that?

Eternity (devoid of religion conotation, please grant) is timeless and endless not an ordered list, at all. Now is eternity. That's all there is.
So mundane? Try to swim to now. Will your inner dialog allow you?

And I can't help it if all the best words are already taken. :)
I can't help but feel that you are describing ∞/4 ...
A nice word (don't know if it's the one you'd like) is "eternesimal". cn
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
What's really fascinating is that 'now' isn't even an objective measure: the present moment for us on Earth is not the 'now' conscious beings in Andromeda (if there are any) are experiencing. If they were to look at the Earth in their now/present, they may being seeing Earth with dinosaurs on it, or hundreds of years in our future (can't do the math to figure out which). I knew time was relative, but it still blows my mind that we don't even share the present...
No, Now is non-relativistic. Only information is relative. Without the need to exchange
information, Now is now, everywhere, and quantumly speaking, everywhen.

Only time is relative and I think we covered the illusionary aspects
of Time.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
I can't help but feel that you are describing ∞/4 ...
A nice word (don't know if it's the one you'd like) is "eternesimal". cn
And I am so impressed you can make your keyboard do that. (copy/paste)
∞/4 or any divisor is a statement of how that kind of thought puzzle will never
un-cover Now.

Eternisimal, maybe? I like it.
 

eye exaggerate

Well-Known Member
...now is quartered to me, and "number 5 alive!". Sounds like a 9, I'll reach and say that we're 'in there' too. The 3 of spirit and the 4 matter... 7.

Plus, 9 and 7 is 16, which is 7. "We can only know that infinity is an unknown magnitude greater than 7 and all other subsequent values."

So yeah, now I am just having some fun. Hope you don't MIND :)
 

eye exaggerate

Well-Known Member
OK, name a favorite, high octane activity. Something you do.
Down hill skiing
skydiving
auto racing
motorbike in the twisties
etc

I'm not thinking about my laundry list or that delightful Pinot Noir I'll pick up later.
I'm in the eternity of the moment.
...drums. I've done all kinds of high octane stuff with cars and life in general. But drums... no one gets hurt, most importantly. There have been many times that I've caught myself almost right out of breath because I am so 'in it' and 'out of it'.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
Yep, music will do it. Playing or listening. What we call time is a precision of duration.
The first clock has just 2 ticks. Sunrise, sunset. Add noon. 3 ticks. Add arm length
finger spans above the horizon, more ticks, more precision.

Add Solstice and Equinox, more precision. Do you see how this has happened?
Now we demand split second timing or we don't know who won the Luge.

The mind without precision clocks, on circadian only, perceives a stretchy "moment."
A moment waiting in the Dr. office is longer than the moment of Ginger Baker's drum solo.

But, think of Now as the constant, not needing precision, the stretchy "moment" makes sense. We come out of Now and back into Precision when we need to.

The problem that has built up in modern society, we rely on Precision
only and have lost the fantastic preciptions of Now in the emerald
forests of our ancestry.
 
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