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Allseasons

Allseasons

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Got a thread in the micro grow section but not getting any feedback on how this scrog should be done so hoping I can get an answer here, heres the link to it anyway https://www.rollitup.org/t/1st-ever-grow-using-mr-grow-pro.816045/
About to scrog my blue mystic in my pc grow box!
-Here is just an overall shot of her at 5 weeks in.
- Attempted close up of top but bad camera and 0 skill with it
-Heres a shot showing how close she is to my scrog net, planning to being the scrog soon as she reaches it!
- Just a shot to put the height of the box at 27" into perspective.
- Another shot in the case
- Above shot
- Side shot
- Yellow leaves at base
-More discoloration at base
In my earlier posts I was talking about LST, but did some research and what I'll actually be doing is Scrog aka Screen of green, as the set up is pretty perfect for it.
This is a large Pc case standing at 27" tall and I'd love to be able to utilize all the height available. How should I go about this? This is what I've grasped so far although I could be wrong!
With this scrog technique i'm going to use my net thing as seen above, and just continuously bend her down and around the netting until I've fulled covered the width and depth of the case to create the Screen of green as the scrog name suggests. So do I just stay in veg until I've got the screen as good as I want, then just flower away? What I'm confused about is the height, how can I use this space to its full capacity? Do i just flower and let her grow as high as she can then harvest when shes reached the top? I'm planning to begin the scrog at just before half way as I've read they generally double in height during flowering.
In the photos you can also see some slight discoloration on the leaves at the bottom such as yellow spots, these are very few though and only the leaves at the very base, what is this? Should this be happening and is it a big deal?
I was also wondering in investing in some flowering nuets for when i throw her into 12/12, is this worth the money, note I will be buying them online if i do so shipping and what not are also a factor.
When I scrog it, due to the design on the case im actually able to move the lights from the top to the sides. There are 3 separate lights that can be seen in first thread. Should I say move 1 to each side and keep one on the top or just leave them both there?
Anyway hopefully I can get some feedback if anyone has the time, would help so much!
Thanks
 
Growan

Growan

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Here are the next batch of clones, a lot to fit in the 120x120 space, but I think it'll be ok if I don't veg much longer.
Any thoughts on using 2 inch square galvanized steel mesh for the screen? Things to consider being corrosion and 'pollution' from the galv I guess...?
 

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neo12345

neo12345

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I wouldn't worry about a little nute burn, my main concern would be how long it's going to take you to trim all of those lovely buds!! Get ready for some sore hands!

I prefer the plastic 2" square netting myself, not sure I would want metal in there.
 
Growan

Growan

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You're right about the sore hands... I did it all on Wednesday night and finished a 3.30 am, just in time to get it hung before going off to work a festie for 4 days.
 
Growan

Growan

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Allseasons said:
Got a thread in the micro grow section but not getting any feedback on how this scrog should be done so hoping I can get an answer here,
Anyway hopefully I can get some feedback if anyone has the time
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With a scrog, you're really saving on vertical spacial need, but if you think you've enough room then fill the net to say 80% (too much anyone, pitch in if you think so), switch to 12/12 then maybe train for a couple of days and let the stretch fill the vertical space. I'd probably selectively remove leaf to ensure airflow in a small space, there are some crackpots round here who'd tell you there are further bebefits (neo, i'd be LOLing right now if I did that sort of thing!). In fact, Neo12345 has practical experience here, defoliation in scrog, I'm sure he'll advise. All I'll say is with my screen I thought it was very leafy by the end and if i'd had a smaller grow space I may have been concerned about airflow/mold issues.
I'm not a seasoned scrogger, pulled one off, entering my second now, so read the above as advice rather than firm truth. If you want THE expert's opinion, seek out woodsmanstoker. Although he generally grows on a much larger scale.
As for feed, i'd go for something simple like a tomato food which will have appropriate npk values for flowering. I've had success witn 'Phostrogen' in flower, and I use miracle grow general plant food for veg. More discrete than going to the hydro shop. Not that there is one where I am...
 
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DenverGirl2

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Hey if one were to do a 4x4 1 plant perpetual scrog. 1 flower and 1 veg room. What is the least amount of light you could you use for the veg room? Let's say for example the strain needed to be moved to flower when 80 -90% of the screen is full and you have been vegging into the screen ( screen and everything on wheels). Could you get away with using a 400w mh to veg 80-90% of a 4x4 scrog? How about 250w mh with a kick ass hood? How about if you wanted this same 4x4 veg room to supply 2 4x4 flower rooms but still only use 1 400mh for veg? Could you just pack the 4x4 with more plants so that you don't have to fill up the screen 80-90% since more plants would cover the 4x4 in flower more quickly. For example have 4 plants in the 4x4 veg room instead of one. 2 plants for each flower room. Or maybe it would have to be more like 8? To use the least amount of light possible during veg would it be better to not train into the screen during veg but a few more taller plants and then when ready to flower, bend them over and throw a screen on? I'd really rather not run more than 400 in veg if I can get away with it and not sacrifice too much quality/yield.
 
neo12345

neo12345

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DenverGirl2 said:
Hey if one were to do a 4x4 1 plant perpetual scrog. 1 flower and 1 veg room. What is the least amount of light you could you use for the veg room? Let's say for example the strain needed to be moved to flower when 80 -90% of the screen is full and you have been vegging into the screen ( screen and everything on wheels). Could you get away with using a 400w mh to veg 80-90% of a 4x4 scrog? How about 250w mh with a kick ass hood? How about if you wanted this same 4x4 veg room to supply 2 4x4 flower rooms but still only use 1 400mh for veg? Could you just pack the 4x4 with more plants so that you don't have to fill up the screen 80-90% since more plants would cover the 4x4 in flower more quickly. For example have 4 plants in the 4x4 veg room instead of one. 2 plants for each flower room. Or maybe it would have to be more like 8? To use the least amount of light possible during veg would it be better to not train into the screen during veg but a few more taller plants and then when ready to flower, bend them over and throw a screen on? I'd really rather not run more than 400 in veg if I can get away with it and not sacrifice too much quality/yield.
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I personally wouldn't go lower than a 400w in a 4x4 space Denvergirl, but a 400w would suffice.
 
Growan

Growan

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I vegged with a 400w hps in a parabolic hood, dimmed to 250w for the first 3 weeks or so. Went up to 600w and 660w for flower. Handy things, dimable ballast.
In fairness, not only 1 plant so not a true comparason.
 
OscarLaGrouch

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whats up everyone. I just joined RIU cuz it was a snoozefest on icmag. I'm a scrogger. just wanna check out the thread and see if anyone does anything different and intriguing.
 

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Bueno Time

Bueno Time

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Heres a scrog I did a few runs ago under a 150w HPS with The White and Blackberry Kush (actually just realized that was my avatar lol).











And the results was 2 full quart jars. White side of the screen could have been filled out a bit more but actually yielded 12g more than the Blackberry side even though it wasnt as full.



Got some of each left still at 14.5 months cure in the jars and they are pretty tasty.
 
Growan

Growan

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When you say 'organic' do you mean 'organic bottled nutruents' or a blend of shits, teas and other natural bits and bobs? And in soil presumably too?
Very, very impressed. Still!
 
OscarLaGrouch

OscarLaGrouch

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If I were you I would read the first post of this thread. it basically covers everything A-Z on scrog technique.
Allseasons said:
Got a thread in the micro grow section but not getting any feedback on how this scrog should be done so hoping I can get an answer here, heres the link to it anyway https://www.rollitup.org/t/1st-ever-grow-using-mr-grow-pro.816045/
About to scrog my blue mystic in my pc grow box!
-Here is just an overall shot of her at 5 weeks in.
- Attempted close up of top but bad camera and 0 skill with it
-Heres a shot showing how close she is to my scrog net, planning to being the scrog soon as she reaches it!
- Just a shot to put the height of the box at 27" into perspective.
- Another shot in the case
- Above shot
- Side shot
- Yellow leaves at base
-More discoloration at base
In my earlier posts I was talking about LST, but did some research and what I'll actually be doing is Scrog aka Screen of green, as the set up is pretty perfect for it.
This is a large Pc case standing at 27" tall and I'd love to be able to utilize all the height available. How should I go about this? This is what I've grasped so far although I could be wrong!
With this scrog technique i'm going to use my net thing as seen above, and just continuously bend her down and around the netting until I've fulled covered the width and depth of the case to create the Screen of green as the scrog name suggests. So do I just stay in veg until I've got the screen as good as I want, then just flower away? What I'm confused about is the height, how can I use this space to its full capacity? Do i just flower and let her grow as high as she can then harvest when shes reached the top? I'm planning to begin the scrog at just before half way as I've read they generally double in height during flowering.
In the photos you can also see some slight discoloration on the leaves at the bottom such as yellow spots, these are very few though and only the leaves at the very base, what is this? Should this be happening and is it a big deal?
I was also wondering in investing in some flowering nuets for when i throw her into 12/12, is this worth the money, note I will be buying them online if i do so shipping and what not are also a factor.
When I scrog it, due to the design on the case im actually able to move the lights from the top to the sides. There are 3 separate lights that can be seen in first thread. Should I say move 1 to each side and keep one on the top or just leave them both there?
Anyway hopefully I can get some feedback if anyone has the time, would help so much!
Thanks
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