The Science of Music

heckler73

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It's all fairly meaningless, just inserting aesthetics into the sub-forum under the guise of science ;)
It's not completely meaningless...
There were mostly resonance effects being demonstrated. All of those effects have equations. The Canadian Association of Physicists give money away for those sorts of art projects.
 

panhead

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Yes it has an interaction with our body , the interaction plays a huge role in my selection of speaker systems for my sound systems .

Im not a big fan of subwoofers or the omnidirectional bass they create , it takes away from the music & leaves boom instead of pure bass .

The interaction between the sound source & my body is at its peak only thru using line array systems , big , bulky & mega expensive but the feeling from sitting in the sweet spot of a true full range line array is immersive .
 

tyler.durden

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Yes it has an interaction with our body , the interaction plays a huge role in my selection of speaker systems for my sound systems .

Im not a big fan of subwoofers or the omnidirectional bass they create , it takes away from the music & leaves boom instead of pure bass .

The interaction between the sound source & my body is at its peak only thru using line array systems , big , bulky & mega expensive but the feeling from sitting in the sweet spot of a true full range line array is immersive .
Now that I'm thinking about it, I wonder what the difference is physically when your body is immersed in the sound waves speakers produce compared to a audiophile pair of headphones. IOW, with speakers sound pressure is vibrating throughout your entire body, while headphones are only a fraction of the waves but directly into the ear. They seem like such similar experiences when immersed in the music, but somewhat different from a physics pov. I don't know if that makes any sense, I'm pretty baked...
 

tyler.durden

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Here's a book I read 20+ years ago that set my mind on the topic of unlocking the mathematical and geometric keys to music. I still have a hard copy with scribbling throughout :lol:
I wouldn't say it is that deep as far as the science goes (especially compared to University texts), but it does cover a lot of the basics, and is still considered a fundamental work.


https://archive.org/details/sciencemusic00jean

Cool! I just bought a used copy in very good condition off amazon for $4.

http://www.amazon.com/Science-Music-Dover-Books/dp/0486619648/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1423036040&sr=8-1&keywords=science+and+music+sir+james+jeans

I'm going to read the entire thing while in the john. Thanks for the recommendation...
 

heckler73

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Cool! I just bought a used copy in very good condition off amazon for $4.

http://www.amazon.com/Science-Music-Dover-Books/dp/0486619648/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1423036040&sr=8-1&keywords=science and music sir james jeans

I'm going to read the entire thing while in the john. Thanks for the recommendation...

I think it is worth $4 easy :lol:
If anything, it gives one a greater appreciation for details in music one might normally overlook. Things like tone or reverb...the delicate weaving of different frequencies. It's been a couple years since I last read it myself, and then it was just for some reference. I'd probably learn some "new" things in giving it a review.

The reason I remember it (and won't forget it) is because Tony French references it in his text Vibrations and Waves. I recall the day I read it in a footnote and had a laugh. I suppose that's a funny thing about music; it comes up in places one wouldn't expect. But it can be a powerful tool for learning, too. It's the original newspaper...the original fable. The original communion.


:lol:
That reminds me...I got to whip out a Zappaism the other day. Someone was asking me if I was "practicing a religion...Christian or Muslim or...?"
I chuckled and gesturing with my left hand in a rapid sweep of the imaginary frets on an air-guitar I replied, "No...I'm a practicing Musician".


ZAPPA AHKBAR!
 

panhead

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Now that I'm thinking about it, I wonder what the difference is physically when your body is immersed in the sound waves speakers produce compared to a audiophile pair of headphones. IOW, with speakers sound pressure is vibrating throughout your entire body, while headphones are only a fraction of the waves but directly into the ear. They seem like such similar experiences when immersed in the music, but somewhat different from a physics pov. I don't know if that makes any sense, I'm pretty baked...
It makes perfect sense , i own some audiophile cans & can relate the differences , being in front of a properly set up line array is all immersive , the big differences between headphones & a line array is with the bass & mid bass as well as the seoeration of highs , mids & lows , with a line array the entire room is a sweet spot , i cant post pics anymore so i reactivated an old thread titled Whats your room like where it shows one of my line array systems & some of my gear , most of what makes line arrays so special is covered in that thread .
 

tyler.durden

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It makes perfect sense , i own some audiophile cans & can relate the differences , being in front of a properly set up line array is all immersive , the big differences between headphones & a line array is with the bass & mid bass as well as the seoeration of highs , mids & lows , with a line array the entire room is a sweet spot , i cant post pics anymore so i reactivated an old thread titled Whats your room like where it shows one of my line array systems & some of my gear , most of what makes line arrays so special is covered in that thread .
Cool. Could you post the link to that thread, I couldn't find it...
 

panhead

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Cool. Could you post the link to that thread, I couldn't find it...
I dont know why it hasnt showed up in new posts , i posted in the old thread & it shoulda brought it back to life , i dont even know how to post links using this iphone i just bought , normally i post from computers & let my kids talk me into this tablet shit .

Lemme try & bring it up again in new posts .
 

tyler.durden

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I dont know why it hasnt showed up in new posts , i posted in the old thread & it shoulda brought it back to life , i dont even know how to post links using this iphone i just bought , normally i post from computers & let my kids talk me into this tablet shit .

Lemme try & bring it up again in new posts .
Found it, thanks...

Edit - Wow, man! You seem to really know your shit. I'm a professional musician, but luckily NOT an audiophile. I have enough expensive vices ;) I may one day drop $20k on some line array set up, I don't mind used. Very nice pics in that thread, here's a link for others who are interested...

https://www.rollitup.org/t/whats-your-room-like.146757/
 
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mainliner

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only through the power of music will our souls be fully understood ....... Flat sound will evolve to an immensity beyond our imagination ...... Forever and a day the wonder will never end :)

amen lol
 
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