The Real Effect of Ron Paul in 2012
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HonestJim
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If you only support a candidate that is pro Marijuana then you should be voting Ron Paul. Obama said he was pro MMJ but his actions did not support those statements. Romney is a lackey and will do whatever he is told by the ultra conservative business men backing him. Like the Wall St. types that are donating large and down right sickening amounts of money to his campaign. Ron Paul is the only one that supports medical marijuana, he is a doctor and a libertarian.
HonestJim
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More talking about people in general that try and discount him. He has a solid following and has polled well, but the media doesn't give him the attention the lackeys get.
desert dude
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What would you do if Cannabis was legalized tomorrow?if pot were made a death penalty offense tomorrow, i'd simply find a new line of work.
InCognition
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This is true but only because of an erroneous perception.
Nearly all the presidents haven't been in control because they are career politicians. Career politicians take orders rather than give orders. Someone like RP would give orders. Whether or not those orders come to fruition is the question.
All the other GOP's for who knows how many decades have been delusional, puppet-strung, wackos. Most of America drinks the delusional, puppet-strung kool-aid though, so it's no wonder people side with the weirdos running this country.
I find the real reasons people don't like Paul is because they either have a sense of self-entitlement, or they believe his policies (if passed) would jeopardize those that can't take care of themselves which is "unfair" in today's society. In other words today's society essentially, artificially prevents those who cannot take care of themselves, from being claimed by Darwin's Theory. This is the complete opposite as to the conditions this country was founded on. People will say it's "not the same though" in regards to modern society, as it was back then. I find that it's just another way of people claiming "it's not fair".
The only real truth about society today that isn't fair, is that a good portion of America including government workers, subsidized civilians, subsidized infrastructure (both private and government), and subsidized business (both private and government), are robbing others who can efficiently take care of their jobs, bills, infrastructure, and businesses. In other words taking from those who can, in order to give to those who can't.
If you can't carry your weight you should be fed to the wolves, not forcing the wolves to bring you your next meal.
desert dude
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Oh, bullshit. You know it's bullshit and so does everybody else here. If you got nothing intelligent to say, then say nothing.
Ernst
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Um there is a Death Penalty today http://norml.org/laws/penalties/item/federal-penalties-2if pot were made a death penalty offence tomorrow, i'd simply find a new line of work.
Just so you know.
desert dude
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Wow, that's a new on me.
desert dude
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Ron Paul, from a NY Times interview on his perception of his own influence on the Repubs in 2012
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Asked whether he believed he would have the leverage to make Republicans more
willing to accommodate his supporters and positions, he said: “I don’t know how
they’re going to handle it. Because we’re very precise on what we would like,
and I can’t imagine all of a sudden one of the other candidates changing their
position on their desire to go to war constantly.”
He added: “How much leverage do I have? How many more votes am I going to
get? You know, the more pressure they feel, the more they might be willing to
look at some of those issues. We want to change things.”
Kind of interesting.
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Asked whether he believed he would have the leverage to make Republicans more
willing to accommodate his supporters and positions, he said: “I don’t know how
they’re going to handle it. Because we’re very precise on what we would like,
and I can’t imagine all of a sudden one of the other candidates changing their
position on their desire to go to war constantly.”
He added: “How much leverage do I have? How many more votes am I going to
get? You know, the more pressure they feel, the more they might be willing to
look at some of those issues. We want to change things.”
desert dude
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Sorry, here is the NY Times link to the previous post.
desert dude
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One more delightful quote:
"Then again, Mr. Paul said, the conventional wisdom that a third-party run would draw voters overwhelmingly from the Republican Party is not necessarily true. “They keep saying, ‘Ron Paul would really hurt the Republicans.’ Not by our statistics. The base of the Democratic Party is very tired of Obama.”
The whole damn country is very tired of Obama!
"Then again, Mr. Paul said, the conventional wisdom that a third-party run would draw voters overwhelmingly from the Republican Party is not necessarily true. “They keep saying, ‘Ron Paul would really hurt the Republicans.’ Not by our statistics. The base of the Democratic Party is very tired of Obama.”
The whole damn country is very tired of Obama!
Ernst
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I don't wish this to be a politics thread. I know this forum is a nice place where fewer immature people post but it's about Legalization.
We can say Obama has not done the best he could for the Weed people but if he is re-elected he doesn't need to worry about being re-elected again.
If he has any cards to play he can do it in his second term.
Just a thought.
piney bob
Active Member
no candidate for president will ever claim to legalize marijuana even if they vow to end the "war on drugs". Two different ideas there. If you want legalization it's at the state level, and that is the only way it's possible. At least until every single state legalizes it first independently.
GENERALIVXX
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I like how the very first 5 words, you deny him the republican nomination. That is a matter of your own opinion and if you do nothing to help him win the nomination he will not have a chance, you simply denying him the nomination will cost him the nomination. Because you stated a false negative fact i will state a false positive fact, He has already won the republican nomination in my opinion, He in my eyes already is the leader of my country, He will become president and I will never deny it. and to comment on you promising your vote to whatever politician 'promises' to do what you please, Obama has already promised to remove the troops from our wars, when he got into office he set a date to set a time to pull out. I no longer trust promises, I know what Ron Pauls record is and has been and i know that he will stand by what he says based on previous history, unlike every other politician that i know of.
InCognition
Active Member
That's the problem... Obama promises but does not do. He already inferred a promised on both of those actions and never came through. He is a typical politician. They simply say these things to become elected, they don'y actually mean what they say. Anyone who falls for their B.S. is a sucker, plain and simple. You can read through these guys from a mile away if you're a real human being.
A status quo politician is always a status quo politician... there simply is no changing it. They should all be taken out back behind the white house and killed by a firing squad. They do nothing but commit treason on this country through the facade of being " the president".
Romney and Obama are a disgrace to this country and to humanity.
Beansly
RIU Bulldog
lmao.
Ron Paul is the very definition of career politician! How long has he been trying to become president now? 30 years?
pmsl hahaha
