The forbidden TRUTH

Nevaeh420

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No one ever has, that's why I'm an atheist.
Hey Ceepea, aka Beefbisquit!

You should blog more in this subforum, I haven't seen you around in a while.

We need your astute logic, critical thinking falculties, common sense, etc. Some people are into whimsical logical fallacies, and nonsensical dogma.

Anyways, to get on subject, yes, I am an Agnostic because there is no evidence for God. Don't get Me wrong, I would like to believe in God, but God cannot be found anywhere.

How are you doing?

~PEACE~
 

Nevaeh420

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@Ceepea

I want you to listen to this video, Beef, and tell Me what you hear.

OTHERWISE - Darker Side Of The Moon (Lyric Video)


Doesn't it sound like he is singing:

"Ceepea, there an't no wrong or right."

What does it sound like to you, Beef?

I know what the singer is actually singing, but I think of you when I hear the song.

~PEACE~
 

tyler.durden

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Some people are into whimsical logical fallacies, and nonsensical dogma.
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME! 99% OF YOUR POSTS ARE DELUSIONAL CONCLUSIONS BASED LOGICAL FALLACIES AND NONSENSICAL DOGMA! You have GOT to be a troll, no one has this little self-awareness...[/QUOTE]

@Ceepea

I want you to listen to this video, Beef, and tell Me what you hear.

OTHERWISE - Darker Side Of The Moon (Lyric Video)

Doesn't it sound like he is singing:

"Ceepea, there an't no wrong or right."

What does it sound like to you, Beef?

I know what the singer is actually singing, but I think of you when I hear the song.

~PEACE~
Uh-oh, BB, he thinks about you while enjoying his tunes. Be careful, or you'll soon be sitting shirtless together staring at a corner of the ceiling all day long. George could braid your hair while he shows you his UFOs...
 

Ceepea

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YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME! 99% OF YOUR POSTS ARE DELUSIONAL CONCLUSIONS BASED LOGICAL FALLACIES AND NONSENSICAL DOGMA! You have GOT to be a troll, no one has this little self-awareness...


Uh-oh, BB, he thinks about you while enjoying his tunes. Be careful, or you'll soon be sitting shirtless together staring at a corner of the ceiling all day long. George could braid your hair while he shows you his UFOs...
...and I actually have a camera.
 

Nevaeh420

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...and I actually have a camera.
I have a camera on My smartphone.

That is how I have taken so many selfie pictures of Myself.

My avatar is a selfie picture taken by My smartphone camera.

I just don't have a VIDEO CAMERA with a zoom lens, to capture the moving "stars".

~PEACE~
 

New Age United

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YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME! 99% OF YOUR POSTS ARE DELUSIONAL CONCLUSIONS BASED LOGICAL FALLACIES AND NONSENSICAL DOGMA!
Self awareness, tell me, which faculty of mind allowed you to draw this conclusion, rationale, intuition or were both working in synchronicity, the faithful servant and the Sacred gift, can you explain why?
 

thepenofareadywriter

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nothing stays as we know it....every generation is different...and the older generation tends to think that the now generation is evil....its just life....my side is in darkness now but tomorrow my side will be in the light and yours will be darkness...so if the bible is true, 'god is light' .then go figure
 

Nevaeh420

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Self awareness, tell me, which faculty of mind allowed you to draw this conclusion, rationale, intuition or were both working in synchronicity, the faithful servant and the Sacred gift, can you explain why?
Thank you.

I bet you tyler. durden won't give you a rebuttal.

But, we shall see.

~PEACE~
 

tyler.durden

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Self awareness, tell me, which faculty of mind allowed you to draw this conclusion, rationale, intuition or were both working in synchronicity, the faithful servant and the Sacred gift, can you explain why?
I'm not sure what you are trying to ask here, it is a poorly constructed sentence. If I'm understanding you correctly, you are attempting to ask how I came to that conclusion. The answer is simple, I read his posts, use logic and reason to analyze what is being conveyed, then draw conclusions based on that analysis. The process is void of intuition, though I know how much you love that concept...

Thank you.

I bet you tyler. durden won't give you a rebuttal.

But, we shall see.

~PEACE~
You probably meant to write reply instead of rebuttal, as no debate is taking place. Duh. You don't even understand what he was trying to ask. Get used to this feeling, poseur christ. This shows us the accuracy we can expect from your prophecies...
 
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New Age United

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I'm not sure what you are trying to ask here, it is a poorly constructed sentence. If I'm understanding you correctly, you are attempting to ask how I came to that conclusion. The answer is simple, I read his posts, use logic and reason to analyze what is being conveyed, then draw conclusions based on that analysis. The process is void of intuition, though I know how much you love that concept
So you are saying that it was strictly rationale that led to that conclusion, but truly logic and reason are not even possible without intuition, you do not realize the power of the gift, You, Awareness, the Knower, has the ability to Know all truths, You have the ability to know what is truth and what is false, but the Thinker, the rational mind, does not have this ability without intuition, the Thinker is the servant of the Knower, Awareness, You, You know how to use logic to find the correct answer to practical questions, any Truth can be understood by You. You are a Genius and you don't even realize it.
 

tyler.durden

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So you are saying that it was strictly rationale that led to that conclusion, but truly logic and reason are not even possible without intuition
I don't think you mean rationale, which is basically an explanation of the reasons behind making a decision. Rationality is probably the concept you are looking for. Logic and reason are used quite frequently without intuition, this is the basis of the scientific method. Just because you state that logic and reason are not possible without intuition doesn't make it true. If you'd care to link to credible, preferably peer reviewed sources that support your statement, I'd be happy to take a look. Otherwise, it's simply the same new age crap that filled your other thread...

you do not realize the power of the gift, You, Awareness, the Knower, has the ability to Know all truths, You have the ability to know what is truth and what is false, but the Thinker, the rational mind, does not have this ability without intuition, the Thinker is the servant of the Knower, Awareness, You, You know how to use logic to find the correct answer to practical questions, any Truth can be understood by You.
You were shown several examples of truth being counter-intuitive in your other thread. Intuition is often unreliable, and many facts of this universe are counter-intuitive. My intuition tells me that the Earth is flat, but I can use logic, reason and technology to know that it is not. Again, the greatest methodology that humans have developed to discover the truth of this universe, the scientific method, shuns intuition while in the process of discovery. You, like George, GD, and other forum clowns, are in a delusion, i.e. you hold on to false beliefs even when shown indisputable evidence to the contrary. You are not searching for truth, you are searching for the comfort that your pet ideas afford you. That is fine, it seems to be what the majority of humanity does. Just don't parade it around as facts or truth as that is gross and dishonest...

You are a Genius and you don't even realize it.
Yeah, I'm a fairly intelligent dude ;) Take this genius' advice and drop the bullshit...
 

New Age United

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I don't think you mean rationale, which is basically an explanation of the reasons behind making a decision. Rationality is probably the concept you are looking for. Logic and reason are used quite frequently without intuition, this is the basis of the scientific method. Just because you state that logic and reason are not possible without intuition doesn't make it true. If you'd care to link to credible, preferably peer reviewed sources that support your statement, I'd be happy to take a look. Otherwise, it's simply the same new age crap that filled your other thread...



You were shown several examples of truth being counter-intuitive in your other thread. Intuition is often unreliable, and many facts of this universe are counter-intuitive. My intuition tells me that the Earth is flat, but I can use logic, reason and technology to know that it is not. Again, the greatest methodology that humans have developed to discover the truth of this universe, the scientific method, shuns intuition while in the process of discovery. You, like George, GD, and other forum clowns, are in a delusion, i.e. you hold on to false beliefs even when shown indisputable evidence to the contrary. You are not searching for truth, you are searching for the comfort that your pet ideas afford you. That is fine, it seems to be what the majority of humanity does. Just don't parade it around as facts or truth as that is gross and dishonest...



Yeah, I'm a fairly intelligent dude ;) Take this genius' advice and drop the bullshit...
No I mean rationale, which is the process of reasoning, tracing the cause of any given effect, which I assure you is not possible without intuition. Your calling me a clown and stating that my opinions are just new age crap is your Ego, not only is it pointless it shows a lack of self awareness and is incredibly unintelligent, it is counter productive and has no place in Philosophy.

You assume too much Mr Durden. Please, present to me the direct evidence to the contrary of any one of my opinions.

Don't be afraid to think for yourself, intuition is a very ambiguous term, to understand what I am talking about you must understand quite a bit about logic and how we come to understand things, you must understand how the mind works. Genius gives birth to original concepts and insights, you can not chain Genius to dictionaries and encyclopedias.
 

tyler.durden

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No I mean rationale, which is the process of reasoning, tracing the cause of any given effect, which I assure you is not possible without intuition.
Where are you getting your definitions from? Below is Webster's -

ra·tio·nale
noun \ˌra-shə-ˈnal\
: the reason or explanation for something


Full Definition of RATIONALE
1
: an explanation of controlling principles of opinion, belief, practice, or phenomena
2
: an underlying reason : basis
See rationale defined for English-language learners »
See rationale defined for kids »
Examples of RATIONALE
  1. <the rationale for starting the school day an hour later is that kids will supposedly get an extra hour of sleep>
Your calling me a clown and stating that my opinions are just new age crap is your Ego, not only is it pointless it shows a lack of self awareness and is incredibly unintelligent, it is counter productive and has no place in Philosophy.
Actually, I compared your delusion to the delusions of other forum clowns. Of course it's my ego, the main reason anyone posts on any forum, or expresses their personal beliefs, thoughts, ideas and feelings anywhere is for the sake of wanting to express oneself. That is the ego at work. You write ego like it's a negative thing, and that is after your agreeing that is a necessary thing for human progress in your enlightenment thread. My judging the intellectual content of your posts shows no lack of self awareness, and I do not see it as unintelligent. The ego has no place in philosophy? Says who?
You assume too much Mr Durden.
What do I assume, and why is it too much?
Please, present to me the direct evidence to the contrary of any one of my opinions.
You present yourself as educated, and well-versed in philosophy and cognitive science, yet you try to shift the Burden of Proof for your claims? That's a no-no even in Philosophy 101 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof.
Instead of providing proof or even support for your positive claims, you ask others to disprove them. That is a logical fallacy entitled Argument from Ignorance - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

You cannot be taken seriously when you are unfamiliar with even the informal logical fallacies. I suggest you familiarize yourself with them - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies.
Violating them is the main reason the other forum clowns I mention fall for their own bullshit, don't fall prey to their mistakes...
Don't be afraid to think for yourself, intuition is a very ambiguous term, to understand what I am talking about you must understand quite a bit about logic and how we come to understand things, you must understand how the mind works.
You seem to count on the fact that it an ambiguous term, that way you can manipulate the word to fit your new age pet ideas and further your agenda of misinformation. The dictionary is a great resource to help clarify the meanings of words. Let's take a look -

in·tu·i·tion
noun \ˌin-tü-ˈi-shən, -tyü-\
: a natural ability or power that makes it possible to know something without any proof or evidence : a feeling that guides a person to act a certain way without fully understanding why

: something that is known or understood without proof or evidence


Full Definition of INTUITION
1
: quick and ready insight
2
a : immediate apprehension or cognition

b : knowledge or conviction gained by intuition

c : the power or faculty of attaining to direct knowledge or cognition without evident rational thought and inference

I can see it's appeal for you, it's a LOT easier than study, logic, reason and concerted rational thought backed by facts and evidence. I study cognitive science and, for a layman, I am pretty well-versed in how the human mind operates. If you want to use logic effectively, study the informal fallacies because at this point you do not. If you want to know how the mind actually works, study some cognitive science. If you want to state that you have, please provide those sources, and how they back up your new age claims...

Genius gives birth to original concepts and insights, you can not chain Genius to dictionaries and encyclopedias.
You'd better hope not, because if you could, it doesn't seem like you would have access to it. Again, you are avoiding defining and clarifying concepts and the meaning of words, because without being able to keep them vague and muddy your philosophy seems to boil down to a bunch of feel good, easy-to-swallow assertions with no evidence or logic to back them up...
 
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