The Doc's TriStrain adventure: (White Widow, Bubblelicious and Amnesia) Waterfarmed and SCROGed

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Hey Dr, it looks great in there,mate, like a tropical rain forest.

Good thing you found out in time, have they since shown any signs of... anything?
 
DrCannaPath

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chained said:
Hey Dr, it looks great in there,mate, like a tropical rain forest.

Good thing you found out in time, have they since shown any signs of... anything?
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Thanks bro ... yeah little mg lock and even pk lock ... lots of nectrotic spots n areas with some purpling of some leafs ... its just scattered here and there affecking older fan leaves mainly and not the buds ... pistils production slowed down a lot in the amnesia and white widow but more with the amnesia .... hopefully theyll bounce back in a couple of days ;-)

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Today, last day of week 7 (day 49) of flowering.
A little hiccup here. The mechanism to recirculate the nutrients between the 3 reservoirs and the controller res failed last week and I didnt realize. So the girls got nute lock from both pH embalance and ppm spike. ......
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Sorry if I jinxed it.. lol ... wishing you a speedy recovery!

How does that ACS res work? Does it pump into the top res and then gravity drains it into the bottom res?

What mechanism failed and specifically how did it? (for anyone running the ACS system to know where the weak points are)
 
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DrCannaPath said:
Thanks bro ... yeah little mg lock and even pk lock ... lots of nectrotic spots n areas with some purpling of some leafs ... its just scattered here and there affecking older fan leaves mainly and not the buds ... pistils production slowed down a lot in the amnesia and white widow but more with the amnesia .... hopefully theyll bounce back in a couple of days ;-)

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Sup bro ... let me rephrase this reply because I think I understand where your question was coming from better.
So suring the last few few weeks of flowering the girls usually start showing little sign of deficiency and thats fine ... its mainly an N def.
However, and especially in my case with a complete and a comprehensive diet, i shouldnt be seeing any def. The girls started showing sudden signs of def and it wasnt the typical and expected mild chlorosis from lack of N. It was blotches and spots and necrosis and purpling of leafs. This cant be due to a lack of a certain nutrient liie Mg or Ca or PK etc ... this is seemed more liie the girls arent able to uptake or even utilize whatever elements they had in them. A LOCK is the most likely culprit, be it due to pH or excessive accumulation of certain elements. I hooe this answers your question and gives ya an idea of what to look for in the future (obviosuly id hope youd never run into this hah)

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Weffy said:
Sorry if I jinxed it.. lol ... wishing you a speedy recovery!

How does that ACS res work? Does it pump into the top res and then gravity drains it into the bottom res?

What mechanism failed and specifically how did it? (for anyone running the ACS system to know where the weak points are)
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Lol no worries dude ... ya didnt jinx it lol and thanks ... they should bounce back in no time!
The ACS works amazingly brother. This is the first time anything happened to the system let a lone something that detrimental!
There is no water pump to pump the water up. Its just an airpump that literally "bubbles" the water upward. This insures the water is being pumped up (less heat since no pump) and more oxygenated (sunce youre bubbling it up). The same mechanism that pumps (actually bubbles) the water up to drip it on the hydroton, recirculates it too!. The topoff res sitting on the controller res gets filled manually by you to feed the main controller res when the watwr level in the main controller res goes down!
So this is how my problem happened. The pipe where that water gets sucked and bubbled upward inside it, that pipe got dislodged from the hose that connects it to the other reservoirs. So basically it was pumping up the controller res water not sucking the water from the other reservoirs and dumping it back into the main controller res. .... once i realized there was a problem with recirculation, I knew were the problem was, and with a simple (stick ur hand in the res to feel) i found out it was dislodged and i reconnected it ;-)
It probably happened because im rough sometimes syphoning the water out of this controller res to freshen up my res. With me being rough I probably kept hitting the hose which led it to dislodge after 4 months later of manhandling it hah

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Today is day 54 of flowering. There are 10-14 more days of flowering left, tops. Therefore, I decided to apply GH's Ripen for 10 days then start flushing!. Hopefully ripen will accelerate finishing flowering and will lead to more cannabinoids and terpenes production! Time will tell ;-)
The main controller res was freshened up with a bottle of RO and full dose of calmag+ and recommended dose of ripen. The final ppm is 1280 and ph 5.8.
10 days then we will flush!
A shot of the canopy. The singles are as usual of the Bubbleicious then White Widow then amnesia!


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Looks very tasty, all of it. Hey, Dr, have you done any pruning while flowering?
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Thanks dude
Actually a couple of weeks ago i clipped a few of the larger fan leaves that are above the canopy ajd blocking light from the lower buds. .just a few leaves here and there. I figured a little bit of stress is good for them towards the end to increase (hopefully) resin production and also allow the smaller lower buds to fill in better.

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Thanks dude
Actually a couple of weeks ago i clipped a few of the larger fan leaves that are above the canopy ajd blocking light from the lower buds. .just a few leaves here and there. I figured a little bit of stress is good for them towards the end to increase (hopefully) resin production and also allow the smaller lower buds to fill in better.

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Cool, as I was thinking about doing this today... hah. I'm a couple weeks behind so that lines up right. I had noticed in the photos you had just posted it looks less cluttered
 
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Quick update
The girls didnt like the high ppm of 1300 of Ripen and were burned, amnesia getting the worst of it! (Pics later time permits). I reacted fast and lowered the ppm yestwrday by adding RO water and brought it back to what it was at before (1180) and today theyre (the amnesia too) already shooting out new pistils. Hoping the next 10 days go by a bit more smoothly!
Happy growing yall

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Last day of week 8 of flowering (day 56 of 12/12) .... As promised ... .here are some pics showing the hit the girls took with the high ppm .... theyre already back in business and shooting out pistils and getting frostier... and some bud porn as well ;-)


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Some more bud porn with the lights off ..... been defoliating a few fan leaves here and there to expose the lower buds to direct light for a few days bedore the chop chop.
Group shot then the bubblicious then White Widow then amnesia ;-)



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Damn, bro!

Under the [red] HPS light it looks much worse, ha! Fortunately your buds are already too big and strong to let one day upset them - they look great.

How long did it take to reach the point shown in the pictures? Is that the result of multiple days, a slow change, or was the damage visible, to that extent, within a single day/lightcycle?
 
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chained said:
Damn, bro!

Under the [red] HPS light it looks much worse, ha! Fortunately your buds are already too big and strong to let one day upset them - they look great.

How long did it take to reach the point shown in the pictures? Is that the result of multiple days, a slow change, or was the damage visible, to that extent, within a single day/lightcycle?
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Well littlw of this started during that week when the recirculating mechanism failed ...... then it got very very bad over night actually from burning them with the high ppm.

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Time for an update I guess .... its almost the end of this phase of the adventure ... today is day 63 of 12/12 (last day of week 9 of flowering).
The buds are ripening now. Although the WW is still shooting out new pistils. I guess the WW will be the last to get the chop giving her an additional few days to ripen (one person chopping trimming drying curing as well as taking care of his busy daily routine and responsibilities ; -)
Once the topoff res is empty, ill replaced the main res solution with RO and FloraKleen by GH to flush them. I think in 2 days maximum. The girls will get the chop starting this weekend starting with the Amnesia yhen Bubbleicious. ... the WW will be the last. Also, ill clip the big branches above the screen ajd allow any little popcorns to get some light for a few days till the scrog screen is harvested. All the fluffy popcorn buds will be collected for bubble hash .... the buds that are better than those, though still not the best tight buds, will be for BHO ;-)
Shots of the canopy then bubblicious then White Widow then amnesia then bud porn shot by the amnesia branches ;-)



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Hey doc, can't wait to see the end result! I'm excited for you, ha ha!

When you cut some down, you'll have to post some pictures without the HPS, close up, so I can see what your trichomes look like. You can message me this if you like, mate, but can you show me where it is you're chopping off and what you're leaving for those extra days?
 
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Hey doc, can't wait to see the end result! I'm excited for you, ha ha!

When you cut some down, you'll have to post some pictures without the HPS, close up, so I can see what your trichomes look like. You can message me this if you like, mate, but can you show me where it is you're chopping off and what you're leaving for those extra days?
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Thanks bro chained ;-) ill do that. Wow thise amnesia buds picked up a pretty purple tone towards the end. Low lights-off temps with some def towards the end brought out some pretty colors. Ill take some shots and post.
Basically, i clip the branches closer to the door and move backward. This way i see exactly where my scissors go!. I check the buds on the branch I want to cl and ixlip right above the screen. If there are a couple buds at the bottom of the branch that are much lighter in color and fluffy, those didnt get direct light so i clip above them to leave them a little longer.
So basically i check the overall look of the buds to see if they need to stay a little longer. Youll know what i mean the minute ya grab that branch in one hand and the scissors in the other. There will be a noticeable difference between the buds that got lots of light and those that didnt. Since my screen is huge and itll probably take me a week to clip and trim, any buds i leave on the girl may get direct light for upto another week. Thatll allow them to hopefully fill better or at least just ripen better dor when i extract the oil for BHO at least itll be more balanced in its high ;-) ..... ill show pics soon dude .... cheers ;-)

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