The AltarNational Garden

Hey friends... figured I'd start up one thread for what I'm up to instead of doing more than one thread. So tune in and subscribe to see whatever I'm up to. :0]


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I've had something on the back burner while my last project finished and now have some babies to show off. I am practicing mainlining and have gone up to 8 heads on the raspberry coughs, which is where I will leave those. The C99's are younger and have only received one topping so far.

Don't remember off the top of my head exactly when i started either now, but if really important the information could be sussed out of my last thread, haha. Maybe I'll look it up later.... we'll come back to that.


Medium: 5 Gal Smart Pots (and one 5 gal buckets ) of Pre-mixed "living" soil that cooked for a month.

Recipe used was Sincerely420's, thanks mang!:

-1.5cubic feet Fox Farm Ocean Forest
-38cups Wiggle Worms Earthworm Casting (1-0-0)
-10cups Perlite(may add more eventually)
-11tsp Rooters Mycorrhizae
*Soil Base
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-1.5cups Indonesian Hi-P Bat Guano (.5-13-.2)
-1.5cups Algamin Kelp Meal (1-0-2)
-1.5cups Espoma Tomato Tone (3-4-6)
*Nutritional Amendments
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-1.5cups Azomite(used as a rock dust)
-0.5cup Espoma Green sand
-1.25cups Hi-Cal Lime
*Mineral Amendments


Strains: Raspberry Cough and C99, both feminized.

Lighting: Same as last time, it's 16 bulbs of 48" T5, variety of and combination of PAR bulbs and regular 6500k's to fill the gaps. Stadium style lighting on sides and top, 4 on each side and 8 on top. (Pics below if you haven't seen it yet) The total footprint is about 4x2.5' with all those bulbs on it.

Ventilation and Enclosure: Basically the same as last time as well, except I took down the ventilation and stacked it in the back of the closet instead of having it over head. This just corrects for some overhead crowding I was having where I was trying to mix nutes and such inside the closet over the mother chamber. I also had an issue at the end of flowering with smell, and I'm hoping that it was a bad seal between the fan and the filter... so hoping it's fixed now. Soler&Palau TD-200 with 8" carbon filter, btw.

Nutrients: Hopefully the soil takes care of it, but I will probably experiment with brewing teas to supplement later on, too.



Here's some pics of the work I did today... mainlining on one of the raspberry coughs in progress:



Group shot of everything transplanted to final containers:



Here's some shots of the bamboo racks to keep the bags off the drainage channel:


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as always im in for the ride altar!

I'm along for the ride again..............you did quite well with those t5 last run, so I'm expecting an even better outcome this time!....no pressure

I'm along for the ride brotha.

Buckled in.

thats a full sedan right there!

PSUAGRO. said:

I'm along for the ride again..............you did quite well with those t5 last run, so I'm expecting an even better outcome this time!....no pressure

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Haha... yessss, I also expect a better outcome! haha. I really feel like I gotta do better with 5 gal's per container, a complete soil mix, and yet another grow under my belt, lol.

polyarcturus said:

thats a full sedan right there!

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Indeed! Glad to have all you guys chillin again!

So I've noticed some variation in my tap water pH, might explain some of the issues I've seen in the past... I though tit was stable at 7 but it's more like 7-7.7 with a variance... don't want to keep getting dicked so I'm checking every single watering now... just wondering, to anyone who might be able to answer... is fresh lemon juice alright to use as a buffer to bring it down a bit? Won't hurt the beneficials in the soil, right? I also have some hydro ph down, but that's bad for the soil, correct?

Adding an any type of acid (most PH down's) will have an adverse effect on most bacteria.........lemon juice is not a long term ph down, sulfur will work better

That is a very cool looking grow setup. I look forward to your efforts.

Good luck,

JD

Dolomite lime will keep your ph stable and wont allow it to go over 7

here for ride my people.so far so good altar?

giggles26 said:

Dolomite lime will keep your ph stable and wont allow it to go over 7

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Here's an odd one....do we ever add gypsum to buffer pH?

I ask because gypsum is a very popular supplement for mushroom substrates.

We will use lime to raise pH and add gypsum to make this pH more stable.

...just a thought.

JD

Javadog said:

Here's an odd one....do we ever add gypsum to buffer pH?

I ask because gypsum is a very popular supplement for mushroom substrates.

We will use lime to raise pH and add gypsum to make this pH more stable.

...just a thought.

JD

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No, as gypsum is really hot lime, you would be doubling up.

If you want another stabilizer use peat moss or ground coral.

Well...when I say that there is something off about "gypsum is really hot lime"...
...then know that I will follow your advice all the same. :0)

So, this being said, the effect of gypsum on the pH of a substrate (or soil) is much
lower than any type of lime (let alone hydrated). It has less effect than even simple
calcium carbonate (crushed shells usually).

Gypsum is basically calcium sulphate. Calcium has the effect of raising pH while
sulfur has the effect of lowering pH. Combining these effects produces the buffering
effect. This is useful in mycology as it helps keep the sub in pH ranges that favor
the desired growth. (i.e. my fungus and not invading bacteria).

Good stuff all 'round.

JD

Okay so I wont worry bout the ph of the water for now i guess... was just worried I would eventually overwhelm the lime or something, by constantly adding water that wasn't ph'd! That was why I was askin'.

But yeah, so far so good... I had some leaves yellowing out on the rasp. coughs before transplant but now that they're in the good soil I'm hoping that'll be the end of that. As long as they're getting what they need from the soil I should see everything stabilize. I trimmed out all the leaves that were damaged anyway, as they were low leaves that get trimmed in the mainlining process inevitably anyway.

Probably get in there and do more training today... at least on the c99's, which have been topped once but haven't been trained at all yet. The raspberry coughs have been topped thrice for 8 heads, so they're done with cuts but have one more training to go once the shoots come off the last top-jobs...

Javadog said:

That is a very cool looking grow setup. I look forward to your efforts.

Good luck,

JD

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Thanks man, glad to have you on board.

Last run didn't go as well as I hoped but was overall a success and the thread is here if you wanna see more pics of this setup in action without waiting several months: https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-fluorescent-lighting/584032-closet-2-0-dialed-back.html

AltarNation said:

Okay so I wont worry bout the ph of the water for now i guess... was just worried I would eventually overwhelm the lime or something, by constantly adding water that wasn't ph'd! That was why I was askin'.

But yeah, so far so good... I had some leaves yellowing out on the rasp. coughs before transplant but now that they're in the good soil I'm hoping that'll be the end of that. As long as they're getting what they need from the soil I should see everything stabilize. I trimmed out all the leaves that were damaged anyway, as they were low leaves that get trimmed in the mainlining process inevitably anyway.

Probably get in there and do more training today... at least on the c99's, which have been topped once but haven't been trained at all yet. The raspberry coughs have been topped thrice for 8 heads, so they're done with cuts but have one more training to go once the shoots come off the last top-jobs...

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See this?


I don't ph my water lol. Your doing organics now right? If so as long as you have a buffer your cool bro.

lol altar u got a hp!!!!!!!!!