That's The Ticket!..

Rob Roy · Dec 19, 2014

londonfog said:
guy named Wesley Snipes tried that...a few others as well

Name? Kunta Kinte

What? Kunta Kinte

Nope, your name is Toby, now give us your fucking money, and fucking hold still while we cut of your foot. Now git out there and start picking us some cotton.

So yeah, slavery no longer exists....uh huh....sure it doesn't <sarcasm>

You declare the present system is valid and then contradict yourself with your Wesley Snipes example....sad. You and most others are still enslaved, your post pretty much proves it. Freedom is outlawed, can you honestly deny that?

Rob Roy · Dec 19, 2014

schuylaar said:
i purchased a house based upon my income which i easily qualified for on my own.

buyer did chip in for a portion of the closing.

my territory was reduced by 35% because of october 2007.

reduced territory = reduced income.

i told my loan officer from wells i no longer qualified.

he broke the law because he wanted his commission.

he even wanted to fraud the closing statement with inaccurate numbers because he wanted to get paid.

i told him i didn't qualify anymore and wanted out.

at least my attorney wouldn't let him.

i had him, the buyers realtor phoning me threatening me to go through with the deal.

i even walked out of the closing when that paperwork showed with erroneous numbers..

ever see attorney's chasing people in the parking lot?

i got in my car, attorneys banging on my window..i left

Most Attorneys are parasites, they get special privileges from the head parasites as long as they defend the system. You should have pissed on his shoes and punched him or her in the face, then let Uncle Buck loose in all 4 of the lawyers fine executive home bathrooms.

NoDrama · Dec 19, 2014

londonfog said:
was he not a believer in that 861 argument ??? The same thing you telling schuylaar to do.

If you think not submitting any tax forms is the 861 argument, then I have a bridge to sell you.

schuylaar · Dec 19, 2014

Rob Roy said:
You continue to avoid discussion of the obvious. I notice you did not refute my correction of what you had erroneously labeled as "chipping in".

Any kind of taxation is unfair in the sense that it compels people to do things and pay for things they do not want. People should pay for that which they use, they should not be compelled to pay for that which they do not want / use. They should also be free to chose from whom they will purchase the services and goods they use, rather than being forcefully restricted to what a coercive entity has chosen for them.

It's called freedom and responsibility....learn about it.

gerbil. anus. penis.

Rob Roy · Dec 19, 2014

schuylaar said:
gerbil. anus. penis.

"Chicken, cloaca, cock", he crowed.

UncleBuck · Dec 19, 2014

Rob Roy said:
Of course, you can show me these agreements you refer to?

yeah, when you buy a house they disclose what the property taxes are on it.

you signed voluntarily, no one made you do it, you freeloading mooch.

UncleBuck · Dec 19, 2014

Rob Roy said:
Speaking of fantasy, how do you achieve peace by baking in threats to a coercive system from the onset again?

I'm almost out of Brownies and thinking I may have to chug down the Jack Daniels next....I had no idea becoming as flaccidly stupid
as you are is such hard work.

So, are you good with being forced to fund the incarceration of peaceful people, Mr. I love the Nanny State ?

where are you institutionalized and what are you institutionalized for?

londonfog · Dec 19, 2014

Rob Roy said:
Name? Kunta Kinte

What? Kunta Kinte

Nope, your name is Toby, now give us your fucking money, and fucking hold still while we cut of your foot. Now git out there and start picking us some cotton.

So yeah, slavery no longer exists....uh huh....sure it doesn't <sarcasm>

You declare the present system is valid and then contradict yourself with your Wesley Snipes example....sad. You and most others are still enslaved, your post pretty much proves it. Freedom is outlawed, can you honestly deny that?

ummmmm I'm not the one saying DON'T PAY YOUR TAXES.
Please remember I'm the guy who wants everyone to pay a share into our system.

Rob Roy · Dec 19, 2014

UncleBuck said:
yeah, when you buy a house they disclose what the property taxes are on it.

you signed voluntarily, no one made you do it, you freeloading mooch.

Can you show me where the individual owners of all the properties taxed agreed to it voluntarily? No, you can't.

Your tenacity for defending the slave state is great. Are you a racist or something?

Rob Roy · Dec 19, 2014

londonfog said:
ummmmm I'm not the one saying DON'T PAY YOUR TAXES.
Please remember I'm the guy who wants everyone to pay a share into our system.

You use the term "your" incorrectly. The proper word to use in that instance would be "theirs", as it is a unilateral proposal at best.

In order for something to be a "yours", it would imply ownership of something or imply a voluntarily created obligation / agreement that a person entered into absent any duress.

So, the taxes are theirs, as they are the ones declaring them. Allowing the master to redefine the meanings of words has lead people to think they are free, when they are not.

londonfog · Dec 19, 2014

NoDrama said:
If you think not submitting any tax forms is the 861 argument, then I have a bridge to sell you.

I'm talking Wesey Snipes. He was a believer in that 861 argument

londonfog · Dec 19, 2014

Rob Roy said:
You use the term "your" incorrectly. The proper word to use in that instance would be "theirs", as it is a unilateral proposal at best.

In order for something to be a "yours", it would imply ownership of something or imply a voluntarily created obligation / agreement that a person entered into absent any duress.

So, the taxes are theirs, as they are the ones declaring them. Allowing the master to redefine the meanings of words has lead people to think they are free, when they are not.

You make sure you pay YOUR taxes

Rob Roy · Dec 19, 2014

UncleBuck said:
where are you institutionalized and what are you institutionalized for?

I'm trapped in a Wendys bathroom and can't breath....Please send help!!

You failed to answer why you fund the war on drugs and imprisoning people for victimless crimes. Happy with "your" contribution to that slave or would you rather slink away from the reality of what you enable.

Rob Roy · Dec 19, 2014

londonfog said:
You make sure you pay YOUR taxes

I will endeavor to meet my obligations that I have willingly entered into and not to fund the war on peaceful people.

Why do you pay for imprisoning people? Would you have turned in runaway slaves too?

spandy · Dec 19, 2014

NoDrama said:
Another idea to make home ownership more affordable is this: Don't buy such a fucking big house.

How dare you say such things.

But its a fact, people have been over-building their homes in crazy excess for many years now. Then their dream home becomes this nightmare that they can't afford unless everyone keeps their jobs and their pay continually goes up, without ever having a hiccup. Yeah, cuz no one ever has a financial struggle at any point in their life, so what could possibly go wrong?!

I've always looked at homes as a box to sleep in. Wake up, eat, and get the fuck out of that box and enjoy life a little that day.

Never understood why being "house poor" was so desirable.

schuylaar · Dec 19, 2014

spandy said:
How dare you say such things.

But its a fact, people have been over-building their homes in crazy excess for many years now. Then their dream home becomes this nightmare that they can't afford unless everyone keeps their jobs and their pay continually goes up, without ever having a hiccup. Yeah, cuz no one ever has a financial struggle at any point in their life, so what could possibly go wrong?!

I've always looked at homes as a box to sleep in. Wake up, eat, and get the fuck out of that box and enjoy life a little that day.

Never understood why being "house poor" was so desirable.

the larger the home the more affluent you appear.

the more you make the better the neighbors (jury still out) neighborhoods, schools.

spandy · Dec 19, 2014

schuylaar said:
the larger the home the more affluent you appear.

To who? Pretty pathetic people even give a fuck about such things.

Live roughly 10 years behind everyone else as far as materialistic items go, and you'll have much more for much less. World's been spinning round and round for how long? Why give a shit about what was made today, when what was made yesterday was cool as fuck just yesterday.

The neighbors don't care what you have. They are too busy hoping you are impressed with what they have.

londonfog · Dec 19, 2014

Rob Roy said:
I will endeavor to meet my obligations that I have willingly entered into and not to fund the war on peaceful people.

Why do you pay for imprisoning people? Would you have turned in runaway slaves too?

Thank you for paying your share. None of you part goes to putting people in jail.
Your contribution only goes to wonderful peaceful things.

NoDrama · Dec 19, 2014

londonfog said:
I'm talking Wesey Snipes. He was a believer in that 861 argument

You claimed I was telling skylar to use a 861. So I will pose the question to you once again seeing as you completely skipped over it. I have told skylar if everyone doesn't want to pay their taxes, just don't submit the paperwork. How is that a 861?

Or were you not really sure what that was and went and looked it up and now would prefer not to talk about it?

schuylaar · Dec 19, 2014

londonfog said:
Thank you for paying your share. None of you part goes to putting people in jail.
Your contribution only goes to wonderful peaceful things.

or medical insurance for others.

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