Th seeds underdawg og your thoughts!

beans davis

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This is JJ from TopDawg Seeds talking to Loompa about the Underdwg cut & TH seeds Underdawg...he says its the Star Dawg cut. The Star Dawg is suppose to be killer.

JJ
"I'm wondering if you have the real Underdawg(91 Chem X SS/NL)? It was also called Headband and Daywrecker, two strains that are not Underdawg. It has no Sour Diesel or OG taste to it. The Underdawg was created and held in my small circle of friends. It was never given out. Only by me, once. So i'm just curious to where you sourced the Underdawg from? TH Seeds does not have the real Underdawg. I know where they sourced the cut from and it was the Star Dawg that they got. AJ called it Underdawg and gave it to him to see what he would do with it."
 

beans davis

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Always bro. They gotta shuck and jive to make that extra buck.

The Star Dawg should be really good JJ is always bragging on it...............................

JJ
" There have been many keeper phenos of Star Dawg that have been found, the recent award winning Kushman cut, Nag Champa Kush, Guava, Corey Haime to name a few"
 

Amos Otis

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This is JJ from TopDawg Seeds talking to Loompa about the Underdwg cut & TH seeds Underdawg...he says its the Star Dawg cut. The Star Dawg is suppose to be killer.

JJ
"I'm wondering if you have the real Underdawg(91 Chem X SS/NL)? It was also called Headband and Daywrecker, two strains that are not Underdawg. It has no Sour Diesel or OG taste to it. The Underdawg was created and held in my small circle of friends. It was never given out. Only by me, once. So i'm just curious to where you sourced the Underdawg from? TH Seeds does not have the real Underdawg. I know where they sourced the cut from and it was the Star Dawg that they got. AJ called it Underdawg and gave it to him to see what he would do with it."
I'd love to see the reply.
 

beans davis

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"Oom pah pah
Ok. The underdog cut we grow is hands down one of the most potent herbs you can smoke. It tests anywhere from low to high 20's inthe thc department. But I swear there is something else that contributes to it's effects . Posssibly the terpene profile that you can taste hours after smoking it . Lip smacking good . The kind of herb that has you holding it in to get the fullest effect. It has had seasoned smokers passing out, swearing it's laced. Dark green ,shimmering , triangulated nugs that reek of fuely earthy piney skunk with a tinge of sour. When you say no og at all it had to be different. Cause our cut is basically the dankest of the dank og. I've grown the majority of the OG out there and it takes a well trained eye and brain to tell the difference . The biggest difference IMO is in effect . All of the OG cuts are pretty damn strong and effective but something about our cut is notably stronger. You never build a tolerance to her and it is the one that I compare all others to.It doubles in height in flower, is extremely lanky and can often exhibit purpling or red stems . She puts out her fair share of 3 point leafs . I grew up on the east coast and it reminds me of what I knew as original diesel. The cut that we have came labeled as headband from the Empire State many many moons ago. Terpene profiling will gjve us a thumbprint so to say. Maybe /someday .i m all for doing whatever I can to provide the info we need for the future."

Sounds like a f n fairy tail to me! "Seasoned smokers passing out" LOL.
 

glockdoc

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"Oom pah pah
Ok. The underdog cut we grow is hands down one of the most potent herbs you can smoke. It tests anywhere from low to high 20's inthe thc department. But I swear there is something else that contributes to it's effects . Posssibly the terpene profile that you can taste hours after smoking it . Lip smacking good . The kind of herb that has you holding it in to get the fullest effect. It has had seasoned smokers passing out, swearing it's laced. Dark green ,shimmering , triangulated nugs that reek of fuely earthy piney skunk with a tinge of sour. When you say no og at all it had to be different. Cause our cut is basically the dankest of the dank og. I've grown the majority of the OG out there and it takes a well trained eye and brain to tell the difference . The biggest difference IMO is in effect . All of the OG cuts are pretty damn strong and effective but something about our cut is notably stronger. You never build a tolerance to her and it is the one that I compare all others to.It doubles in height in flower, is extremely lanky and can often exhibit purpling or red stems . She puts out her fair share of 3 point leafs . I grew up on the east coast and it reminds me of what I knew as original diesel. The cut that we have came labeled as headband from the Empire State many many moons ago. Terpene profiling will gjve us a thumbprint so to say. Maybe /someday .i m all for doing whatever I can to provide the info we need for the future."

Sounds like a f n fairy tail to me! "Seasoned smokers passing out" LOL.

LoL you know guys this quote is a response to me asking them(loompa farms) if i have there underdog.
i am still awaiting jj's insight about the strain
i had got a bag of underdawg, it had hermied and seeded itself. the bud was sweet, piney, slight fuel and chem taste.
outta that bag i ran 3 of it seeds.
1 pheno was this weird spice funk tasting pheno...like a sharp musty spice taste
2nd pheno was my favorite it was pure fuel taste frosty as fuck yield was so so little towards the low end
3rd pheno is what got this whole discussion going... it was nothing like the other 2 phenos no fuel no spice
this one was straight grilled onion funk. the exact smell of grilled onions. frostier then pheno 2 , it put out 3 leafs all of veg until flowering
and with a 2 months cure it had a very strong high..( i promise you i smoke heavy heavy 4-7 grams a day) but i would agree with that quote of being almost laced...the onion smell had turned into a unpleasent dirty sock like smell with hints of pine

problem to me is that oom pah pah id'd phenos 1 and 2 (sorta) and touched based on pheno 3's 3 leaf only during veg..but when shown the harvest pic of pheno 3 said couldnt id it.. loompa came on and couldnt really id phenos 1 and 2 but says that 3 is a charm hes ran into a few times.

i had someone tell me when they seen a pic of pheno 3 that to them it looked like stardawg soo i need jj's input but boy is that man busy..
 
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I dont know

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Loompa confirmed that th seeds doesnt have the real deal underdawg og. TH is just cashing in on the undwedawg name hype.
 

I dont know

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From what Ive read on the forums loompa and his crew started calling it underdawg og i believe it was to help sell it better becuase everyone was tagging the name headband name to buds. Dont quote me on that. Once i find loompas post ill paste it on here.
 

I dont know

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Found the qoute. Loompa wrote all this.

"I am however seeing tons of different people saying all sorts of things. Like TH seeds is putting out an Underdawg OG. I see other breeders are calling out the same thing. I see seed banks carrying breeder gear that says they are using my HB. I run into everyday mom and pop who say they have it. I see clubs selling clones of it. And the list goes on. I guess TH Seeds is the one that really surprises me. Funny how none of these so called breeders have spoken to me or even tried. So what does that tell me?? It's either straight up fake, or just kind of fake. either way, no one is getting what they think they are getting unless it is coming from me or the farm directly.

My best guess about it all, is that people are either buying flowers in med clubs, finding a seed and calling it Underdawg OG. But we all know the truth right?? If you find a seed in it, its not pure Underdawg. Its a poly cross with something. Ive already stated the Underdawg reversed pollen is virtually sterile, so the hopes of finding seeds in the flowers are slim to none. Unless some other plant was run in the same room and pollinated it. And in that case, its not Underdawg. Its is a poly cross. I can tell you TH Seeds does not have Underdawg OG.....wow, I am surprised, I thought those guys were legit and straight up. I guess not. I see other breeders saying they are "working with the finest breeders in cali" and "working the finest genes available".....all of this is false and if it were me would lead me to seriously doubt anything any of these guys say.

Thats not to say they dont have a portion of the genes. Either through bagseed or buying my seeds and then calling it Underdawg OG. In either case, for me...it's all fraud. But fraud, substitutes, fakes are the american way. Its like buying fake rolex's or fake Tiffany jewelry on E-bay. It boils down to a bunch of hacks jumping on the HB train to cash in. You are seeing a similar thing happen right now in front of your eyes with all the Girl Scout cookies. How many fakes are going around?

It is interesting how no one comes to me directly. Unless I come out and say it, or its posted on the website or posted in public somewhere by ME, then take it worth a grain of salt. If TH Seeds came to me and we worked something out, I would come out publicly and say it. But its not true and it is not true all the way across the board. So the best I could tell all of you is this....what your seeing is either straight up fake, or its parentage is actually bagseed, or its from work Ive done or am doing. In all these cases, the breeders, seedbanks, dealers, clubs.....everyone is misleading you. I even see some breeders calling out Underdawg OG with 20-30 other strains listed they are selling. Now use your common sense guys. Who can breed 20 lines at once?? "
 

Breko

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Found the qoute. Loompa wrote all this.

"I am however seeing tons of different people saying all sorts of things. Like TH seeds is putting out an Underdawg OG. I see other breeders are calling out the same thing. I see seed banks carrying breeder gear that says they are using my HB. I run into everyday mom and pop who say they have it. I see clubs selling clones of it. And the list goes on. I guess TH Seeds is the one that really surprises me. Funny how none of these so called breeders have spoken to me or even tried. So what does that tell me?? It's either straight up fake, or just kind of fake. either way, no one is getting what they think they are getting unless it is coming from me or the farm directly.

My best guess about it all, is that people are either buying flowers in med clubs, finding a seed and calling it Underdawg OG. But we all know the truth right?? If you find a seed in it, its not pure Underdawg. Its a poly cross with something. Ive already stated the Underdawg reversed pollen is virtually sterile, so the hopes of finding seeds in the flowers are slim to none. Unless some other plant was run in the same room and pollinated it. And in that case, its not Underdawg. Its is a poly cross. I can tell you TH Seeds does not have Underdawg OG.....wow, I am surprised, I thought those guys were legit and straight up. I guess not. I see other breeders saying they are "working with the finest breeders in cali" and "working the finest genes available".....all of this is false and if it were me would lead me to seriously doubt anything any of these guys say.

Thats not to say they dont have a portion of the genes. Either through bagseed or buying my seeds and then calling it Underdawg OG. In either case, for me...it's all fraud. But fraud, substitutes, fakes are the american way. Its like buying fake rolex's or fake Tiffany jewelry on E-bay. It boils down to a bunch of hacks jumping on the HB train to cash in. You are seeing a similar thing happen right now in front of your eyes with all the Girl Scout cookies. How many fakes are going around?

It is interesting how no one comes to me directly. Unless I come out and say it, or its posted on the website or posted in public somewhere by ME, then take it worth a grain of salt. If TH Seeds came to me and we worked something out, I would come out publicly and say it. But its not true and it is not true all the way across the board. So the best I could tell all of you is this....what your seeing is either straight up fake, or its parentage is actually bagseed, or its from work Ive done or am doing. In all these cases, the breeders, seedbanks, dealers, clubs.....everyone is misleading you. I even see some breeders calling out Underdawg OG with 20-30 other strains listed they are selling. Now use your common sense guys. Who can breed 20 lines at once?? "
Everything I read from this guy seems so arrogant and bitter. Real turn off. OH.....and the 200 dollar packs of beans LOL!
 

MistaRasta

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So then that means I really have a Stardawg freebie from THSeeds and not a Underdawg from Loompa? YES!!!
That's what I'm saying! If these "Underdawg" seeds are in fact s1's of stardawg I'll be one happy man. Def gonna snatch a pack and see what they do
 

glockdoc

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i bet th seeds has seen 100% rise in sales since beans davis' post of jj saying "underdawg og" is stardawg s1 LMAO
shittt im going to grab a pack!
 
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