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TGA's Shangri-la nitrogen toxicity

Discussion in 'Marijuana Plant Problems' started by koda7225, Jan 10, 2017.

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    koda7225

    koda7225 Well-Known Member

    Ok...

    Growing in a 3 gallon ebb & flow (flood and drain ) setup.

    Only feeding 1.5 tsp / gal GH MaxiBloom, 1.5ml / gal GH ArmorSi, 5 ml / gal GH Koolbloom

    Total of about 1250ppm on 0.5 scale

    Any idea why I would be showing nitrogen toxicity with TGA's Shangri-la?
     

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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

    your ppm are to high

    your nutes are way out of wack

    where did you formulate that arrangement?

    the maxi bloom might work for soil in late bloom but its not a good choice for you

    that arrangement is so far out... super super super high in P and K and lacking in N

    get yourself the GH floragrow and florabloom 1 parts or the GH 3 part

    along with calmag and Epsom salt

    keep you armor si and use it as a foliar spray

    after you've got your new gear hit me back with what you have and I will tell you how to does it
     
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    koda7225

    koda7225 Well-Known Member

    What's the clawing of the leaves all about then? In the past with WR and GG4 this was great for them.
     
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    koda7225

    koda7225 Well-Known Member

    I even tried a round with dynagrows line, showed lack of nitrogen everything was yellowing in about a week.
     
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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

    the claws are likely from to high ppm or a micro nute imbalance

    the problem is almost all the mixing instruction given by the manufacturers of almost every brand is wrong... most times if its a good brand itll be balanced except there just suggesting too much

    in your case using those products theres no way even close to formulate a balanced ratio of elements for any stage of growth
     
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    koda7225

    koda7225 Well-Known Member

    Why couldn't it be formulated?

    They all have their ratings and they are all GH.

    Not trying to be an arrogant ass, I'm trying to learn.

    I thank you both for your input
     
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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

    koda veg.png

    full dose balance veg nutrient profile using GH 3 part

    grow 7.5 mls per gallon
    micro 5mls
    bloom 2.5mls
    calmag 1ml
    Epsom salt 1 gram per gallon
     
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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

    kodabloom.png

    full strength bloom formula

    grow 6ml per gallon
    micro 3mls
    bloom 6mls
    calmag4mls
     
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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

    I don't want to confuse which is which

    read them again...they are label

    full strenght bloom or full strength veg
     
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    koda7225

    koda7225 Well-Known Member


    Ty, if you don't mind I am still curious how what I use won't work out.

    Isn't the Lucas formula a balanced formula? Which MaxiBloom is darn near right at the Lucas formula at 1.5 tsp per gallon.

    Is it because I'm adding the koolbloom that's fuckin it up? Ph has been steady at 5.8 - 6.0 the whole time according to my blue lab meter.
     
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    koda7225

    koda7225 Well-Known Member

    I did, I caught it after I asked.
     
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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

    for me to answer specific
    I would need to know how many grams of maxi your adding per gallon

    tsp doesn't tell me what it weighs

    but I can give you a few examples

    give me a few minutes
     
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    koda7225

    koda7225 Well-Known Member


    Ty again!
     
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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

    ok
    your nutrient maxibloom is a dry salt fertilizer

    you said your dosing X per tsp

    a tsp doesn't help me calculate what your giving

    I need to know what it weighs

    for example;;
    I adding 5grams per gallon of maxibloom
     
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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

    youd need to bust out your scale and weigh 1.5tsp and see what it says in grams

    if your scale isn't accurate at that amount

    weigh 15 tsp and divide by 10
     
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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

    and yes...your kool bloom makes it worse

    along with the good bit of K from the silica(armor)
     
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    koda7225

    koda7225 Well-Known Member

    OK maxibloom is 10.33 grams per 1.5 tsp
    5 - 15 - 14

    Then 1.5ml / gal of the ArmorSi
    0 - 0 - 4

    And 5ml / gal of koolbloom
    0 - 10 - 10

    If you need the other amounts I can get them off the packages / bottles
     
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    koda7225

    koda7225 Well-Known Member

    Checked cal right before I weighed it too. ☺
     
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    koda7225

    koda7225 Well-Known Member

    So maybe leave out the koolbloom?

    I know your trying to help and doing calculations. Again I am very thankful, I'm frustrated because the Shangri-la is the only one acting up.

    And I'm limited for space so they all run off the same res.
     
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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

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    5grams per gallon
     

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