TGA Subcool Pennywise (selfmedicators second grow)

SeedHo

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looks like a bunch of boys. you can`t predict the randomness of nature, you just have to deal with it. you see all kinds of theories out there but at the end of the day nature rules.
the question now, would be how to deal with this. you could leave the males and make some f2 seeds for later use or kill the males and go on with the female. if you do the latter then you could get your cuts going and rooted and toss them in later, if you do that the only problem you should have is the mother will be hogging the light. thats not to huge of a problem and could be overcame by some extra attention. with the 3 cuts of the mother you may only want to run 2 of those cuts and keep one for a mother on the next run. another thing that could be done is revert the female back to her veg. state by changing the light schedule back, then take some more cuts and root them and go on from there. if you do this it`ll take sometime, it may be weeks before everything is ready to get this process started, but you could root the cuts and have them going while the female reverts to speed up your next harvest. i`am sure i missed some scenario`s but these would be most popular.
 

selfmedicator462

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Not sure what to do. Seems like these seeds are hard to come by so it might be smart to let em breed. But then I'd have to clean like crazy to get rid of the pollen. But I have 3 cutting from the female. Now will those be female?
 

SeedHo

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yes they are! what i was talking about. the cuts can be rooted and ran now. it`ll set you back a little bit time wise, but it is what it is...lol
now if your planning on keeping a mother now is the time to figure out which one, like i said either run the one you have or reveg her and then keep her or keep one of the cuts you have or root the cuts and veg for a short time and take cuts from them and keep a mom from there.
if it were me and if its was going to cut me short on meds i would run the one in the garden as is, then root my cuts keep one for a mom and toss the others in the garden. you have some options on the table.
 

selfmedicator462

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Well I got a lonely girl in the room. Cut the males out. I took a few more cuttings from the female. Now instead of doing a mother (since Im short on space) could I just keep cloning the clones? Just take my cuts before I flip like I did this time? I took my screen out too thinking I wouldnt need it..........HA! this thing sprung up another foot without it. Now an even bigger question.....should I run my 600 watt ballast on just one plant? or stick with the 400?
 

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SeedHo

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get some string, i use hemp twine. tie that bitch back. more light means more yield, it may not be a lot more but it should do a little more. so im not saying its not of some value to ya, its just not going to be huge.
you can just keep cutting cuts, its not going to hurt a thing. i have seen others take cuts from flowering plant, i never had got into that.
she does look lonesome all by herself, but she looks healthy that's the good part.
did you get any info on keeping small mothers?
 

SeedHo

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just keep the bag full of c02 and they`ll last a long while. the small cabinet you built should hold a few small moms and a place to root and short veg for your cuttings. if you have trouble find what ya need let know and i`ll see what i can do. basicly what your looking for are bonsai style moms. you put the rooted cut into a small pot cutting back whats above the soil to the size you want. when growth slows, the plant is getting root bound. when this happens you take the plant out just like changing pots, once out cut the root ball back about an 1" or so then put it back in the pot and fill with dirt. not as hard as you might think.

heres a link to get you started. i didn`t go thru it, it should be a starting point.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/bonsai-all-about-bonsai-mothers.198463/
 

SeedHo

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i have used a homemade setup a time or 2, but it wasn`t enough of a difference mess with for me. puts me back to the splitting hairs thing. give it a try, take a 2 litter bottle half full or half empty(lol) of water put a 1 tsp of sugar and a1 tsp of yeast in there shake it up good set it beside your plant and see what happens. cheap and easy setup, i liked the brewers yeast better you can get it at wally world(walmart) or any grocery store in the baking isle. cut a small hole in the bottle cap, that's kinda important sorry about that. it`ll need to be shaken every few day or so, but when it wont bubble anymore just add back the equal parts of sugar and yeast and it`ll become live again. i changed out the whole setup after a week or 2 because it smelled like stale beer.
 

SeedHo

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lol they tend to do that if you give `em some room. look at what dr grubber does here with his single plant grows, 2lbs is respectable no matter how you do it.
i usally run 4 to 6 in a 4x5 space. but i have had 100+ in a 5x5 sog table. the time in veg has everything to do with type of garden style. when i run the 4-6 i veg for 4-6 weeks, with those 100+ it was clone rooting str8 to flower. this is just me but in your space i would only have 2-3 plants at a time. in the pasted doing scrog i did 1 plant per 2sqft of screen, like i`ve said everyone is different, and do things in different ways. the only way to know what works for you is just do it and see. i had an old grower that kinda mentored me a long while ago would have 12 plants under that screen you have and make it work for him. this is a crazy hobby its full of my misinformation and myths, so you can`t believe half of what you read, the only way to know for sure is to try it and see the results for yourself.
 

selfmedicator462

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I did notice my temps come up to 78-79 this week. Ground temp is comin up so the one brick wall is holding heat better. I'm goin to run the 600w ballast this weekend when I can be there to monitor it.
 

SeedHo

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thcfingers were you running a hood or a dropped down bare bulb?

462 thats the sprite, get a shot.lmfao! sorry been on that new vape to much today. i love this thing.....
 

selfmedicator462

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started up the 600 w today. Temps rose to 85 degrees. My 3 speed can fan is still on low so I may try and speed that up to see if it makes a difference.
 

SeedHo

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play with the fan it should come down more. hows the girl doing, i bet spreading everywhere.
 
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