Taking cuts from calcium def mother?

my question is whether or not you can take cuttings from a calcium deficient mother plant being that calcium deficiencies are immobile (to my knowledge). I know that it’s useless trying to save a dieing mother by cloning it bc the same issues will pass onto the clones. But like I said, If calcium is immobile, I would think I could take cuttings and raise them without expecting the same calcium defiance’s. I’m not asking for a diagnosis of the plant.... I made a big boy decision and diagnosed it as a calcium and or magnesium issue. Neither are very mobile. Hopefully you get what I’m asking. Thanks

Sucess rate drops with unhealthy mothers.

Why not fix her and pull new growth 10-14 days later?

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mag is mobile. To answer your question you wont know till you do it probably get a few clones rooted maybe idk. Bring your cloning "A" game.

Thanks everyone. Yea, I agree with the person above about fixing the issue first. The reason why I’m needing to take them now is because if I wait for the problem to correct itself (flushing, then waiting), then I fear I’ll fall behind on my perpetual schedule (if you can even call it a schedule at this point ha). I ended up taking several clones but am going to continue to flush until I see the problems go away. I’m not so sure it’s a calcium def issue anymore. I think it started as that, but I wayyy over compensated when I tried foliar feeding it extra calmag. For coco growers, do you guys flush with plain phd water when flushing for deficiencies or low dose nute solution. I’ve heard both. I would provide a picture but I fear this thread will quickly get off topic ha

Here is the pic. This was taken after I foliar fed it and after I had already taken cuts. Like I said, I overcompensated the “calcium issue.”I’m not trying to get into a discussion of where I went wrong, but more of how to properly flush in coco. My tap is about 150 ppm. Would you guys flush with just ph adjusted tap, or low dose solution.

I also don’t mean to come off sounding angry. Just trying to keep the group focused on the questions ha. So far, so good!

Hydrowannabe said:

Thanks everyone. Yea, I agree with the person above about fixing the issue first. The reason why I’m needing to take them now is because if I wait for the problem to correct itself (flushing, then waiting), then I fear I’ll fall behind on my perpetual schedule (if you can even call it a schedule at this point ha). I ended up taking several clones but am going to continue to flush until I see the problems go away. I’m not so sure it’s a calcium def issue anymore. I think it started as that, but I wayyy over compensated when I tried foliar feeding it extra calmag. For coco growers, do you guys flush with plain phd water when flushing for deficiencies or low dose nute solution. I’ve heard both. I would provide a picture but I fear this thread will quickly get off topic ha

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Continuing to flush till you see the problem go away isnt going to happen. Foliar feeding epsom salt at 200 ppm every 3-4 days for a few weeks is what you need to do, along with your regular program.

What was the question again?

Bernie420 said:

Continuing to flush till you see the problem go away isnt going to happen. Foliar feeding epsom salt at 200 ppm every 3-4 days for a few weeks is what you need to do, along with your regular program.

What was the question again?

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Technically I’m constantly flushing my medium with fresh nutes in the dtw every time I water in between my feedings with fantastic results (rarely do I get any major deficiencies and I contribute that to the fresh nutes every week.. I was talking about flushing for deficiencies,..like just a one Major flush (2 gal per gal of coco). Where the heck is waldo

My originally question had to do with taking cuttings from a calcium def plant. I overcompensated when I foliar fed it, so my question went from asking about taking cuttings from a cal deficient plant to trying to figure out how to undo the damage I did while foliar feeding it. It’s not a big deal

I feel I need to elaborate lol. I ramble to much. Whenever I get a MAOR deficiency due to stupid mistakes,..even if the symptoms start showing all over the plant,..I always have flushed the media with 2 gal per gal of media and usually within a week I start to see improvement. Of course that has to be followed up with some sort of low dose nutrient solution if in coco, otherwise I’m guessing thenplant would just starve. I know it sounds like I’m just trying to answer my own question lol, but I’m not. I didn’t want to have to wait for the flush and wait till it’s healithier to take cuttings bc I run a small perpetual grow. was wondering if you can take cuttings from a nutrient deficient plant and and not have nutrient deficiencies pass on to the clones. I feel like this was a very dumb question as I’m going to find the answer soon enough. Sorry folks,..impatientness got me

SPLFreak808 said:

Sucess rate drops with unhealthy mothers.

Why not fix her and pull new growth 10-14 days later?

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I very much agree that it would affect rooting success. But the ones that do root, I have a hard time believing they wouldn’t pull out of any deficiencies that they started with. Now if it were pythium or whatever those diseases are,....those I can see never letting go of those faults

Bernie420 said:

Continuing to flush till you see the problem go away isnt going to happen. Foliar feeding epsom salt at 200 ppm every 3-4 days for a few weeks is what you need to do, along with your regular program.

What was the question again?

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After re-reading your reply several times, I think I see what you meant by flushing not going to help. Are you saying that flushing will not help calcium specific deficiencies,..I do agree with that,..but from everything I’ve read, the best way to help a plant out of UNKNOWN deficiencies, flush a lot. Keyword is unknown tho

Hydrowannabe said:

After re-reading your reply several times, I think I see what you meant by flushing not going to help. Are you saying that flushing will not help calcium specific deficiencies,..I do agree with that,..but from everything I’ve read, the best way to help a plant out of UNKNOWN deficiencies, flush a lot. Keyword is unknown tho

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Yeah i understand what you meant now.

I looked at your picture of the mother , to me it looks mag deficient and a little potassium deficient. I just didnt want you to flush your plant everyday thinking it would fix anything one big flush to clean out the stuff in the medium then back on your nutrient program usually gets things back on track.

when I have a plant that looks like yours I foliar feed epsom salt and usually it gets better.

Nutrient deficiencies that are in a mother plant will be in your new cuts. To a point i guess if you took a cut from the top and the mag deficiency is all in the lower part then I guess it wont transfer to the cut. Idk good question.

In my nonscientific mind I would think that your cuts from the top will form roots faster/better than the lower cuts from a mother like the one pictured.