Super Budget Bag Seed grow/First grow.

Strocat

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MARS HYDROs are the worst lighting solution available, this guy would be better off with a bunch of cheap screw in LEDs , MARS hydros are like 20% efficient and use the worst LEDs on the market (epiled). I'd recommend he use a HID light, biggest bang for your buck.

How is it then with a mars 300 off 1 single autoflower transiberian in 5 gallons of soil I got 88.3 grams dry of all bud in 95 days from seed?


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Yodaweed

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Strocat

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You're pulling 135 watts and getting 88 dry.... That's .65grams/watt not too terribly bad but not close to a 300 watt equivalent. You'd be like .35g/watt. Looks great though
I know its not the greatest light brother really dont care about getting 500 grams.. I really just grow for personal and maybe if a friend needs help to make enough for some cigs or something to eat.

I just thought it was shocking that off an AUTO the mars 300 got 88 grams.. I have done 100% cfl grows and this mars yielded better.

how much on your electric bill does running a 600 watt hps cost you monthly?
 

Yodaweed

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I know its not the greatest light brother really dont care about getting 500 grams.. I really just grow for personal and maybe if a friend needs help to make enough for some cigs or something to eat.

I just thought it was shocking that off an AUTO the mars 300 got 88 grams.. I have done 100% cfl grows and this mars yielded better.

how much on your electric bill does running a 600 watt hps cost you monthly?
around 25-30$ at most , i only grow for personal but i guess i smoke more than most people.
 

MerionMatt

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I don't care either. I mean i would like to get enough to get me through to the next time but honestly it's just a fun hobby that I enjoy doing. And i do hope to get better each time: I've fallen in love with the whole process you know. Your final product looks really great
 

Xcoregamerskillz

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Not trying to be a dick.. But I'd try to start new seeds! Are you using pH'd water? Could be your problem. Over watering is a thing with cannabis, cannabis is part of the "weed" family. They need to be completely dried out and then soaked. Just some tips, happy growing =)
Yeah, I don't think it's over watering when compared with the other plant. Again, exact same conditions, and other than my first set of leaves, the plant on the right is getting along great. pH could be a problem, I don't have a test kit, but it isn't a problem for the plant on the right. Like I said, EXACT SAME CONDITIONS for both plants. Lights, watering (though I'm watering the left plant less, cuz well, less aspiration because of less leaf surface), same soil, same doses of nutes. I have some more seeds to start, will be doing that soon.
 

Xcoregamerskillz

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Guys, this isn't a lighting discussion thread, seriously. This is a grow log. And mars iso not the greatest LED, but you really can't beat 150 shipped for 2 lights. Supplement with some screw ins and you're golden. Anyway, could someone please answer my topping question?
 

Xcoregamerskillz

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Gonna top and trim this one, pending advice. Sorry for the blurry photo, my phone refused to focus. The line is where I intend to top, the circle is old growth I was going to trim. Thoughts?20170202_054109.jpg 20170202_054109.jpg 20170202_054225.jpg
 

Xcoregamerskillz

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Either way you only have 2 nodes in that picture
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a node is where two leaves pop out from the stem, right? I know it's a shitty pic, but if you count the original leaves, I have 4 sets with a fifth starting. I did cut out the first set which was small.
 
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MerionMatt

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but a node is where two leaves pop out from the stem, right? I know it's a shitty pic, but if you count the original leaves, I have 4 sets with a fifth starting. I did cut out the first set which was small.
Aren't the things you have circled the original round leaves?
 

MrVega2

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I say throw the bag seeds in the trash personally. you start with unknown shit genetics theres a chance you wont get great results.

You can go to the single seed centre and get some awesome genetics cheap.

buy a mars 300 of amazon.. Its what I use

Get an 8 oz bottle of dyna gro foliage pro and dyna gro bloom.

a 12 quart bag of fox farm ocean forest (3 gallon bag)


Doing those things will be around 110$ and you'll be very happy with results. depending on strain you could easily get 4 oz dry of super funky smoke.

ohhh btw.... your first grow will pay for itself.. then every grow after that is basically the cost of a seed .. 10-15$


you could either go to lowes and buy 70$ worth of CFL's or buy the mars 300... the difference??? same price but the mars 300 would do you a hell of alot better.. better yield/less heat/ built in fan/// its literally a win/win/win.

I LOVE my mars 300
Bagseeds...
Purple plant outta tin full of seeds given to me by a buddy n was first n only one I popped outta that stash...

Other pics from current plant...Week 4... Resin'd out... Spreading to fan leaves...Pics really don't do it justice... Monster Plant too...Stacked tightly...Solid branchy structure... Flipped lights to flower round 5weeks into Veg n she's bout 3feet tall n a bush...
 

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MrVega2

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Sure ideally I'd rather sprout known fire genetics...But the surprise factor not knowin what ur gonna get is fun...I think all plants have potential
 

Xcoregamerskillz

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Honestly the whole reason I'm going bag seed is that I was given it for free. I want to fuck up and make mistakes with free stuff before I kill good genetics being a rookie. I bought some seeds online, waiting to pop them until I get through one full grow.
 
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