sugar injection to plants .

NLNo5 said:

Dood, there is some truth to what you say but most of what you just wrote is total bull shit. Plants use sucrose as a transport molecule via the phloem. It is used as it is more stable and more efficient to use than glucose. Eventually the plant will break it down and use its constituents in respiration (produce ATP). Plants use active transport to move minerals from soil into the xylem (this is the function of the root). The sugars are made by photosynthesis in the leaves, and travel in the phloem.

True plant food is carbon dioxide, water, glucose and essential minerals (NPK etc), all of which go to make ATP which is the energy storage molecule (gasoline) that directly fuels anabolic and catabolic reactions required for the life and health of the plant.

You cant just inject the plant with a syringe and hope it's going to get a boost from that somehow. You'd have to hit the phloem during the dark cycle to ride the flow to the buds. You'd have to get the needle directly into the vein of the phloem without damaging it. An aphid proboscis is about the right tool for the job, not an insulin needle. Then your injection would have to be a sterile solution and it would need to be the same molarity of the phloem, about 1 molar. The same exact pH. And to top it all off you would likely fuck up your plant due to some pretty critical physiologic feedback loops that are directly triggered by changes in sucrose concentration, molarity and pH.

The best thing you can do for your plant is stick it in a medium, water it, keep soil bacteria and fungi balanced and happy, add essential minerals, monitor humidity and give it light and dark. Let the plant do the rest. After all, the design has been refined over the last several million years and humans didn't have shit to do with any of it.

Leaf to phloem to root bidirectional to support respiration. Root to xylem unidirectional always towards the leaf and bud to provide essential minerals for growth and reproduction. How you know if you tapped the phloem or the xylem? That's the first question you solve in this process.

Then get hooked up with a state of the art plant physiology lab and run some experiments for a couple of years to figure out all the other questions, variables and controls needed to make that one perfect injection using a needle the size of an aphids proboscis.

Fucking hilarious!! Thanks for the laugh.

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ElectricPineapple said:

who cares if FAZZ wants to inject his plants with sugar. is it harming your plants? no. if it kills his plant, will it kill yours? no. just sit back, smoke a J and see what happens. who knows, it may actually do something. most of what we know about science was found out by just experimenting with stuff, and thinking " oh i wonder what happens when i do this?"

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manta said:

ok, i have a crappy NL for nirvana that i just germed. I can get sterile needles and i will try different concentrations of glucose. Ill post with pics in about 1 month. Ill start with .1M sucrose, and go up to as high as possible to see what the threshold is in increments of .2M. Chances are, if it can stand the sucrose intake its going to be good for it (unless its way to little). Ill make a new thread but yall will have to wait til i veg this thing out.

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Medi 1 said:

dood///lol...im not the one sayin to inject them..thx for the laugh...read before trying to be a know it all...fukin hilarious is right...dood./..lol

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Fazz said:

THANK YOU !!
yaaa its not some killer genetics , its bagseed lol .
GROWN ON MY WINDOWSILL lol .
I didnt even have to pay hydro for this .

thank you for stopping by and support . (I think?) lol .

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Fazz said:

innovation comes from people doing stuff differently .
if vegetables growers do it , why would it 100% not be possible with pot .
I think you need to calm down and maybe get some friends .

you seem to be very intelligent , too bad your not open minded .

your right , I have almost NO knowledge about any of that stuff .
but thats why I'm here right ? to learn and exchange techniques .

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NLNo5 said:

FAZZ, I was a total dick, I'm sorry I got off shitting on your perfectly great idea. Hope we can still be friends.

It would be cool to see a cross section of the MJ plant and determine how the injection would need to be done depth and angle. They have syringes with a slight curve at the tip called non-coring. They make it so the hole closes really well after the injection. Also you could use some fingernail polish to seal the would after injection. You might want to inject just below the budline on each branch so if you fuck it up you only loose a bud and not the whole plant.

I really like the idea of using plant auxin's to drive growth instead of just boosting with sugar. The auxin's will give you a whole lot more bang for your buck. That shit is real Superthrive. I like IAA (check Dip and Grow) and use it very dilute in my feed water. But you could make very dilute injections into the stem at the base of the nugget. I'd go about 1/20 of their recommended dip concentration and increase the injections on different study groups to see what concentration harms the plant. I'd think you'd only need a few injections per grow. In this way the roots are not getting stimulated by the IAA in the soil water and the buds can get maximum exposure to the IAA via injection. Injection volume should be low 5 or 10 microliters (0.005-0.010mL).

Peace.

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jewgrow said:

I'm curious to see if maybe giberellins* spelling?...would have an effect being used this way...

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