Jumfrey13
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Also, no greensand in this one. No need for me to purchase that i assume. Just trying to get everything ready.
subs supersoil
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radrolley
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my secret ingredient that will not be so secret anymore is i add about a gallon of my previous super soil mix to my newer super soil mix.EXCELLENT Tutorial thank you!
I'm gathering all the stuff now so great!
On a side note tho... awwww, I could not see subs "secret-ingredient"?
i also add a little green sand, vermiculite, humus, and rice hulls. i also add a lot more lime, azomite, epsom salt, and humic acid than the recipe calls for.
i quit using fox farm and roots organic soil. too many bugs. i like seeing no bugs on my traps. i prefer ferilome, grubby cup, and m3. nice and clean.
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AdmiralAd
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Hi RIU. I've only recently joined this forum and have been reading as much as possible. OK so I've read this thread thru and thru and I'm just wondering. Do y'all cover your soil while it's cooking or what? I started a batch about 6 weeks ago and put it in a 32 gallon can and a 18 gallon tote. I was worried about lack of airflow and insects so I drilled some holes in the top and sides and bottom and put the lid on. Then I loosely wrapped a tarp around it and sprinkled some DE around to keep the crawlies away. At least once a week I take it out and mix it and then put it back in. But every time I check it there are fungus gnats flying off of it when I take the top off. I'm worried they are having babies in my mix. I put some DE on top and then put the lid on and that seems to work but do I have to add DE every time I mix it? That seems like a lot of DE. Thanks all your input is greatly appreciated.
st0wandgrow
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Next time you're at Home Depot grab a container of BTI bits. Mix some in to your soil while its sitting. It's a beneficial microbe that will take care of the gnat larvae. You can place some yellow sticky-traps on the surface of the soil to catch the adults.
http://www.horsesupplies.com/item/summit-mosquito-bits/E002332/?srccode=GPHRSSUP&gclid=CjwKEAiA04S3BRCYteOr6b-roSUSJABE1-6BztLCRksNRit7REXpZCV1hDMmDmE6qCRUQvh29GRP1hoCih_w_wcB&kwid=productads-adid^46254876782-device^m-plaid^18283950120-sku^188078@ADL4HORSESUP-adType^PLA
As for covering the soil, I think you're on the right track. Drilling holes in the lid of your container is fine. You want to keep it moist, but you also don't want it sopping wet and turning anaerobic on you. Lil bit of air flow is good.
Best of luck!
AdmiralAd
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BTW I mixed up:
2 bags FFOF
1 bag FFLW
Amended with:
Kelp meal
Alfalfa meal
Blood meal
Bone meal
Oyster shell
Bio char
Sunleaves bat guano 0-13-0 IIRC
EWC
Azomite
Dolomite lime
Humic acid
Neem seed meal
Vermiculite
1/4"-3/4" lava rock
DE
Epsom salts
AdmiralAd
Member
Thank you very much st0w. I will grab some of that this weekend.
Organicgrow42
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Guys, I used to grow w sub super soil. Check out a site called buildasoil.com
It changed me. Find the blog section. One of the pages he talks about subs metgod, the revs no til method and why his works the best. I'm loving my results and wished I didn't waste my time or money buying exotic ingredients in bulk, that I will now never use...well not never...the worms will eventually eat it
check out the rols thread here too, really good stuff!
I don't not work for buildasoil in any way. Just a really happy customer that wants to spread the good news (in my creepy old man voice from family guy
It changed me. Find the blog section. One of the pages he talks about subs metgod, the revs no til method and why his works the best. I'm loving my results and wished I didn't waste my time or money buying exotic ingredients in bulk, that I will now never use...well not never...the worms will eventually eat it
check out the rols thread here too, really good stuff!I don't not work for buildasoil in any way. Just a really happy customer that wants to spread the good news (in my creepy old man voice from family guy
littlejacob
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BonjourGuys, I used to grow wIw sub super soil. Check out a site called buildasoil.com
It changed me. Find the blog section. One of the pages he talks about subs metgod, the revs no til method and why his works the best. I'm loving my results and wished I didn't waste my time or money buying exotic ingredients in bulk, that I will now never use...well not never...the worms will eventually eat it
I don't not work for buildasoil in any way. Just a really happy customer that wants to spread the good news (in my creepy old man voice from family guy
so you say that revs no till is a better way to grow!??
How better? it looks interesting
CU
Organicgrow42
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Go to buildasoil.com and look up the complete growing system and check their blog. Page 8 or somewhere around there, he does comparisons of subs and the revs and I guess you would call his coots. I'm on coots mix now, will keep posted on my results. Some ingredients in the revs and subs mix just do not make sense
Rasta Roy
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I'm gonna back you up on this. Buildasoil set me straight as well. Subs super soil? More like subs pooper soil.Guys, I used to grow w sub super soil. Check out a site called buildasoil.com
It changed me. Find the blog section. One of the pages he talks about subs metgod, the revs no til method and why his works the best. I'm loving my results and wished I didn't waste my time or money buying exotic ingredients in bulk, that I will now never use...well not never...the worms will eventually eat it
I don't not work for buildasoil in any way. Just a really happy customer that wants to spread the good news (in my creepy old man voice from family guy
Don't layer shit in your soil my friends! Mix it all evenly in your pots and your plants will thank you.
Vato_504
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So you're saying it's not good to layer the supersoil?
DonBrennon
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You are getting good advice, forget about 'supersoil', read the 'Buildasoil' method.....................less really is more in this case. We probably all started organics mixing supersoil, cos it's the most well known method, but we all learnt that there's something inherently wrong with both the mix of nutrients and the layering methods.
Vato_504
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So what's the difference in the 2
DonBrennon
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A far superior end product, with the coot/buildasoil method. Your plants will also be far healthier throughout the cycle, meaning you will feel less need to tinker with things, which usually only leads to other problems
Rasta Roy
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One follows science, and actually understanding how plants grow...while subs supersoil does not.
Subs is also super expensive to put together.
Vato_504
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Buildasoil comes pre made or you make it the way you want it on their site
Rasta Roy
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I'm not recommending you use buildasoil.com. I'm just saying that where someone first pointed out to me how stupid layering your soil is. How espom salts in your soil will throw off your magnesium ratios. I recommend you final a local landscape supplier, to source Hella cheap peat moss and perlite, and if youre lucky a good quality compost. Google for composting places in your area.
1 Part Peat moss
1 Part Perlite
1 Part Compost
1/4 cup per cubic feet (about seven gallons) of each of these
Kelp meal
Alfalfa Meal
Crab Shell meal
Fish Meal
Mix that all up, let it cook if you can!
Plant your shit in that. Get a good quality worm casting brand if you can't make your own. Roots organics big worm is pretty solid for a big name. Top dress with that.
That'll be better than subs supersoil bullshit.