strains searching for

I want to know if these medical strains from the dispensarys are available online,Im sure there are but anyway here are some I am especially looking for Any info would be helpful,but nothing to break forum rules.Anyway OG Kush or Bubba Kush,lavender,Trainwreck,and strawberry cough,any info would be good.
 

Hobbes

Well-Known Member
I'm hoping you mean seeds, not bud for delivery. I know nothing of bud delivery.

Gottibme would you be comfortable telling us the medical condition you want to treat?

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"OG Kush or Bubba Kush"


Dr Geenthumb, S1 from the original clone.

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"Lavender"

I got nothing.

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"Trainwreck"

Again, Dr Greenthumb - S1 from the original clone. Greenhouse has a cross, but I'd go with the S1.

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"strawberry cough,"


You're into the clone only strains! I grew Dutch Passion's Strawberry Cough cross and found it very weak with no taste of strawberries. I've got Elite's Super Strawberry Diesel flowering. Elite is now defunct but I'll look around for another Strawberry Cough cross - with a diesel it's great for depression as well as anxiety.

- look at OGraskal for great clone only crosses and look for Kush there too. I'll get the URL for the seedbank and post later - if anyone has it please post.

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edit: Shepj recommends not using THC Farmer - anyone know another site that sells OGraskal?

xxxxhttp://www.thcfarmer.com/forums/classifieds/category-77.htmlxxxx

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http://www.drgreenthumb.com/cannabis_seeds_GreenthumbSeedsEntrance.htm

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bongsmilie
 

Quickee

Well-Known Member
im looking for a good indoor plant bushy/medium height/good taste/smell high in thc/heavy yeild.. i have about 4x4 space 4-5 plants and filled to the edges..any ideas on a good strains for this
 

Hobbes

Well-Known Member
gottibme check out Subcool and The Green Avengers (TGA). Medical strain breeders who concentrate on potency, effect and taste. Some of the best strains at the best prices.

I've got Jack The Ripper, Pandora's Box and Jillybean vegging now and I'm getting Agent Orange, Querkle and The Flav on my next order. Pronounced and consistant fruit taste with each strain, not as hit an miss as with a strain like Blueberry.

TGA has the best effect descriptions of any breeder, I really appreciate that.

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Agent Orange

Orange Velvet x Jack The Ripper



  • Highly recommended!
  • Orange tasting strain
  • highly potent
  • immediate medicinal effects
  • high resin content plants
  • High Yield
  • 55- 60 days bloom cycle
  • appetite stimulator

    Candy taste and pain relieving effect. bred with the notoriously potent flagship strain " Jack The Ripper". Combined to create a perfect hybrid potent, tasty baseball bat colas of weighty frosty orange buds, simply an all round excellent strain.

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AstroQueen

Astroboy x SpaceQueen


  • Indica/sativa: 60%-40% Hybrid

  • Flowering time 55-58 days

  • Yield : Good Yielder

  • Resin Production : very high

  • smell/taste Orange/Mango

  • Effect : Narcotic,Medicinal

A large watermelon trait female was pollinated with our proven space queen male.The resulting cross yields very unusual tasting hybrid with with flavors from cherry to watermelon. The high is very intense and is reported by smokers as trippy and good for pain relief. Females are very similar with heavey resin and a fruity smell and taste. very mind expanding and visual,very much a head high. Harvest window is 8 weeks...


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Jack The Ripper

Jacks Cleaner F1 x Space Queen

Some think its a violent sounding name for a cannabis strain but its name is an attempt to convey the roar potency this excellent medicinal hybrid posseses, a true instant stoned to the bone. Very effective pain relief type of smoked or vaporized.


  • Super Potent
  • Short Squat little stretch 2x max ( depending on veg time)�
  • Extremely High Resin Content
  • Distinctive Lemon Smell
  • Medicaly Effective- pain & anxiety relief
  • Good Yielder

The mother plant Jacks Cleaner F1 has obtained urban legend status due to it's hard to get nature and folk tales of lethal potency leaving men dazed. The Space Queen is one of the best tasting strains I have tasted in years and still packs incredible resin and potency and unmistakable lemon qualities but with a definite haze fuel like undertone on the exhale.

The JTR seeds are tremendous in size and extremely dark and striped in the classic form of JC crosses.If you liked JCB or JC bx this is the collectors strain for you. 8 weeks + Sativa Hybrid


  • Resin Rockets
  • 8 weeks flower
  • 2x stretch
  • devastating High very potent
  • extreme lemon taste and smelll
  • very haze liketastes
  • Indoor
  • SOG Suitable

If you want Jacks Cleaner Genetics then you should look no further than JTR excellentin all departments one of the only 8 week haze tasting plants.


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Here's Hemp Depot's descriptions:

Jack the Ripper

Jacks Cleaner P1 X Space Queen

A true 8 week Sativa Haze the first thing growers notice is the incredible lemon smell and heavy resin production. It has been described by UK growers as the best 8 week haze ever produced.

This plant will produce triangle shaped spear buds that pretty much stopped active calyx growth early and produced copious amounts of resin instead, resin production was evident from day 12 in 12/12 but really started to fatten up the heads around day 50 or so.

I find it performs best untopped with a long vegetive period. The high is very creeper at first you may think that its not so strong but then whammo...it hits you hard and there's no turning back then...you will be deep in thought and meditative for quite some time...the duration and intensity is strong and thought provoking.

Phenotypes: Two main phenotypes both with a Lemon Haze smell and short growth one tends to be more a pine smell.

Height: Look for the Short Pheno/ Colas swell late

Yield-Medium: Heavy / Moderate trim work

Best way to grow: Untopped and vegged to a full bush.

Harvest Window: 8-9 weeks

Sativa/Indica: 70/30

Hybrid:
Pluton X Purple Haze X Lambsbread X NL X Jack Herer X Romulan X Cindy99BCGA

High type: Intense, trippy, visual, phase shifting, increased heart rate, heavy crash, increased appetite, pain relief, paranoia

Taste Like:
Lemon mango pine hash with a heavy haze influence


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Jacks Cleaner 2

I truly feel it’s the most dominant strain I have ever worked with. Lemon and resin are always passed on in spade, these are very stable displaying only a couple of phenotype, no matter which phenotype you get its heavily lemon, mango fruit and will produce large thick plants with an exceptional high. Developed: TGA (Spain)


  • 60% Sative / 40% Indica
  • 65-70 days bloom
  • SOG Suitable
  • Heavy Odour
  • Lemon and ground coffee aroma
  • Very High Resin Profile
  • Stocky Vigorous Plants
  • indoor/outdoor
  • appetite stimulant
  • Exceptionally medicinal and very moreish, please do not over indulge

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JillyBean

Orange Velvet x Spacequeen


  • Indica/Sativa : 70%/30%
  • Flowering Time : 50-58 Days
  • Yield : Good Yielder
  • Resin Production : High
  • Smell/Taste : Mango Fruity-Cherry Fuel
  • Effect : Body Stone , Very Medicinal

You dont really have to be a master breeder to figure out orange and pineapple mango flavour traits will be a good combination. The resulting outcross is remarkably stable and is close to a 50/50 representation of the parents. Topped it grows into a nice short bush with lots of side Branching and multi heads. Flavours range from orange, Tang,candy ,Mango,and apple. The cross works really well in SOG Or Scrog . Very Large stems and huge top colas make this an easy strain to grow in any medium.


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Pandora's Box

Jack the Ripper x Space Queen

Location: indoor;
Type: mostly sativa;
Flowering: ~63 days;
No feminized seeds.
Known Phenotypes: » new » none up to now (homogenous??)


The buzz is up, speedy, very shit eating grin and smiling like a Cheshire cat like high. It’s a bit smoother than JTR and has a different feel in the head less haze influence. I can’t tell where the ceiling is as every bowl I smoke I seem to get a bit higher until the point my vision blurs. Not for light weights. I can’t stop grinning when I smoke this weed.

* Phenotypes: Large Triangle shaped glass covered rock hard buds are all we see.
* Height: Wide thick sweeping arms with weighted colas that need support after 50 days/medium
* Yield: For a strain of this potency I think this thing yields like crazy.
* Indoor has only been tested so far
* Best way to grow: Topped and bound/Vegged to a large bush
* Harvest Window: 9 weeks
* Sativa/Indica: 60/40
* Hybrid: Jack the Ripper X Space Queen
* High type: Zooming, Happy, Grinning, anti depressant BIGTIME!
* Smells: It taste like NL5 to me but its very industrial with a slight citrus taste and a undertone of spice and hash One female has been named Cherry Lethal lemonade.

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Querkle


  • Indica/Sativa : 90%/10%

  • Flowering Time : 58-65 Days

  • Yield : Average Yielder

  • Resin Production : High

  • Smell/Taste : Grapes

  • Effect : Body,Medicinal

Another knockout clone only strain,Urkle is one of the most sought after USA strains,its deep purple Hue's Make this plant a true spectacle to watch grow. As early as day 40 you will see her leaves change to a deep dark purple and now with Spacequeens mango flavours, resin profile and potency, this is sure to become a sure fire top strian. One of the only purple strains that will rip your head off... Top Bag appeal


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SpaceQueen

C99 x Romulan


  • Bros Grimm Strain F2's
  • Extremely Heavy odour
  • Extremely Heavy Taste
  • Extremely Heavy Resin Production
  • Very Medicinal
  • 7-8 Week Bloom
  • needs support due to weight of buds
  • beautiful candy likedried texture.

Spacequeen is a very special strain indeed. On our first run of her we first saw the resin building long before day 30 and as you will see at day 33 they will be just oozing resin.By Day 38 I was smiling big as they took on that famous Brothers Grimm C99 Smell with a hint of what I know know as Joe Pine Romulan. Excellent breeding gene pool, high potency, high yield with excellent bag appeal.

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The Flav

Astroboy x SpaceQueen


  • Indica/sativa: 60%-40% Hybrid

  • Flowering time 55-58 days

  • Yield : Good Yielder

  • Resin Production : very high

  • Smell/taste Orange/Mango

  • Effect : Narcotic,Medicinal

Selecting from our own cross,Astroboy a large watermelon female was pollinated with our proven space queen male.The resulting cross yields very unusual tasting hybrid with with flavors from cherry to watermelon. The high is very intense and is reported by smokers as trippy and good for pain relief. Females are very similar with heavey resin and a fruity smell and taste. very mind expanding and viual,very much a head high. Harvest window is 8 weeks.

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Third Dimension

Apollo 13 x JTR


  • 70%Sativa 30% Indica
  • 2 x Stretch
  • Heavy Resin Production
  • Vigorous Growth
  • Heavy Blooms
  • High Odour
  • Apple, watermelon flavours
  • 8 - 9 week bloom
  • Indoor suited
  • Clear thought provoking effect

Exceptionally potent plants that ooze with resin and need support due to abundant heavy blooms.

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VORTEX

Apollo 13 x Space Queen.


  • Indica/Sativa 20%/80%

  • Flowering Time:58-65 Days

  • Yield: Good Yielder

  • Resin Production: Very High

  • Smell/Taste: Spiceyfruit/Cherry

  • Effect: Clear/Pain Relief


Apollo 13 is another legendary clone only strain in the USA.It was used as the seedbearing parent in this awsome cross.Its a sticky,milky,sweet tasting plant that has a very uplifting high,very enjoyable,puts you in a very creative mood. Again Spacedude has passed on the cherry like sweet fruit undertone to an already complex apollo Flavours. Excellent toke for daytime non confusing and clear,each toke is a tasty treat which usually leads to smoking excessive amounts,leaving the smoker in a daze. Can creep up on you. Excellent stout structured and vigorous plant.

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http://www.cannaseur.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=9&Itemid=36

http://www.hempdepot.ca/seeds/TGA/index.htm

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bongsmilie
 

Hobbes

Well-Known Member
Quickee read through this when you have the time, jot down some answers on the questionaire, and we'll be better able to suggest strain that will give you the effects you're looking for. Rather than tossing out random strains. People focus on yield, height and flower time too much - we grow for effect and taste.

I stripped down part of a DJ Short article to make the questionaire. I'm slowly making a template for reviewing strains to pin point effects so medical patients can pick the proper strains rather than go hit and miss by the breeders descriptions (or "lack-there-of") as we all did.

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Spectrums of Experience

1. Onset: fast effect or creeper.
creeper 1 2 3 4 5 fast

2. Up (stimulating) and Down (sedative)
Liven the disposition and stimulate the emotions:
Inspiring sociability and talkativeness:
Sedative and depressant effects:

3. Head High / Body Stone
Energizing
Motivating
Couch lock

4. Emotional State Caused

Anxiety
Euphoria
Calm
paranoia

5. Body - medicinal effects

Nausea
Pain
Seizures
Back
etc

6. Head - medicinal effects
Depression
Mania
Anxiety
Antisocial
Anger

7. Ceiling: How high (of far) one is capable of going with the variety. How many hits can be consumed until more hits are unnoticeable.

8. Potency: weak 1 2 3 4 5 strong

9. Duration
short 1 2 3 4 5 long

10. Tolerance:
ability to provide the same experience via the same amount over time – the burnout factor. "Over time" means the long run: months, years, decades...

11. Taste


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DJ Short

Spectrum of Experience

The first spectrum to consider is the "up and down". "Up" refers to the stimulating aspects of cannabis, while "down" refers to sedative qualities. Up pot tends to liven the disposition and stimulate the emotions, inspiring sociability and talkativeness. Down pot tends to produce sedative and depressant effects. Some people refer to stimulating pot as being a "head" high and sedative pot as being a "body" high, yet although partially true this is also misleading.

Body and head highs are the next spectrum of the cannabis experience. Generally speaking, head highs are stimulating and body highs are sedative, but not all are. Some body highs are stimulating and some head highs are depressing. I once sampled a terribly paranoia-inducing head pot that inspired great couch lock qualities. I called it Boo-Goo.

Early to late harvest will affect the head to body spectrum expressed by a certain plant, with the later harvest tending to produce more body and sedative effects. However, I believe that certain aspects of this spectrum to be genetically inherited.

Next to consider are aspects of duration. Some cannabis tends to be short-acting (15-30min) whereas other varieties last much longer (6-7 hours). Once again production, harvesting and curing techniques can influence aspects of this spectrum, but much of this effect is inherited.

For me, the most important aspect of the cannabis experience to consider is tolerance. This refers to the product's ability to provide the same experience via the same amount over time – the burnout factor. By "over time" I mean the long run: months, years, decades...

Most of the cannabis I see on the market today has a terrible tolerance factor – a quick burnout time with the product's novelty lasting less than a week. Luther Burbank's model of breeding needs to be employed here and no expression of tolerance to your product is to be tolerated. An example of where intolerance to tolerance is tolerated – enough already!

Another aspect of tolerance is "ceiling." This refers to how high (or far) one is capable of going with the variety. How many hits can you consume until more hits are unnoticeable? Most indicas have a low ceiling of less than 10 hits. For me that's usually around 5 hits in one smoking session. If I smoke more than 5 hits of a strong indica I will either not notice the post-ceiling hits, or I will fall asleep.

Some sativas have a very high ceiling, or seem to have none at all! This means that the more you consume, the higher and further you go. Oaxaca Highland Gold, Black Magic African, and Highland Thai were some of the herbs I've tried with very high or no ceiling.

The final aspect of mental effects to consider when sampling strains for breeding is the tendency to produce anxiety. Certain strains of cannabis increase anxiety while others decrease it. This is also true for other emotions, which some strains may suppress while others may augment their intensity. Generally stimulating and head varieties are the ones that can produce unwanted anxiety, but this is not always the case. Quickly cured buds or an over-early harvest are contributing factors to anxiety-increasing pot, but this trait is also genetic in nature.

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bongsmilie
 
thanks bro,I will definetly check that out,I wont get too much into my condition but I have a liver problem so I dont take pills for pain and it helps with soreness That I get,I went through doc cronic online 2 or 3 years ago and It was cool,but now I hurd that he has gotten shady and alot of feedback of bad orders,Those other strains are good I will definetly check that out
 

Quickee

Well-Known Member
Spectrums of Experience

1. Onset: fast effect or creeper.
creeper 1 2 3 4 5 fast 2

2. Up (stimulating) and Down (sedative)
Liven the disposition and stimulate the emotions:
Inspiring sociability and talkativeness: important talkative
Sedative and depressant effects:

3. Head High / Body Stone
Energizing


4. Emotional State Caused

Anxiety
Euphoria

5. Body - medicinal effects

Back


6. Head - medicinal effects
Anxiety


7. Ceiling: How high (of far) one is capable of going with the variety. How many hits can be consumed until more hits are unnoticeable.
i personally like one hit it quit it
8. Potency: weak 1 2 3 4 5 strong 4

9. Duration
short 1 2 3 4 5 long 3

10. Tolerance:
ability to provide the same experience via the same amount over time – the burnout factor. "Over time" means the long run: months, years, decades... high tolerance

11. Taste
fruity flavor/fruity smell
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
Hobbes great posts, but if you're going to link thcfarmer give the dude a heads up not to order from there.. so I hear Logic is fucking tons of people out of money.
 

Hobbes

Well-Known Member
Thanks Shepj, post edited.

Do you know another seedbank that carries OGraskal?

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bongsmilie
 

Hobbes

Well-Known Member
Gottibme check these guys out for Strawberry Cough and Subcools strains. Look like a lot of other good strains, a few of BOGs. Great prices too - Bogbubble is $55 for 10 seeds and with BC Bud Depot they're $125 for 10.

http://www.meduser.ca/seeds.php

I found a thread in their forum on CBF's Strawberry Cough hermieing on a grower - the breeder automatically accepted resonsiblity and asked the grower to go through a stress check "even though they shouldn't have to". And offered to replace the SC seeds with any strain that the seedbank carries and he'd square up with the the seedbank owner.

http://www.meduser.ca/forum/index.php?showtopic=10908

These folks look like good people.

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"I have a liver problem so I dont take pills for pain and it helps with soreness That I get"

Strawberry Cough will help with anxiety and elevate mood but will not be good for pain.

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bongsmilie
 

Hobbes

Well-Known Member
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Thanks Shepj.

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Quickee:

Spectrums of Experience

1. Onset: fast effect or creeper.
creeper 1 2 3 4 5 fast 2

2. Up (stimulating) and Down (sedative)
Liven the disposition and stimulate the emotions:
Inspiring sociability and talkativeness: important talkative
Sedative and depressant effects:

3. Head High / Body Stone
Energizing


4. Emotional State Caused

Anxiety
Euphoria

5. Body - medicinal effects

Back


6. Head - medicinal effects
Anxiety


7. Ceiling: How high (of far) one is capable of going with the variety. How many hits can be consumed until more hits are unnoticeable.
i personally like one hit it quit it
8. Potency: weak 1 2 3 4 5 strong 4

9. Duration
short 1 2 3 4 5 long 3

10. Tolerance:
ability to provide the same experience via the same amount over time – the burnout factor. "Over time" means the long run: months, years, decades... high tolerance

11. Taste
fruity flavor/fruity smell

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Sorry Quickee, I didn't mean to ignore you. I lost track of the thread and went back through my posts this morning to find it.

Tell me if this is right: you're looking for a: fast onset; energizing; mental effects of euphoria and anxiety relief(not produce?); will relieve back pain; reduce anxiety; rather one hit than look for ceiling; high potency; average duration; fruity taste.

Since you want both energizing and pain relief you may want a strong sativa like Jack The Ripper, or to go with two or more strains (which I'm sure that you know with more than 1000 posts ;) )

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Right off the bat I think of Jack The Ripper but Subcool lists paranoia and a heavy crash as a possible result. I've never read a review complaining of either.

High type: Intense, trippy, visual, phase shifting, increased heart rate, heavy crash, increased appetite, pain relief, paranoia

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Jillybean would be a great middle of the road strain, fantastic mood elevator and anxiety relief while not too sedative. And taste like candy. Querkle would give good pain control but will give a strong indica sedative stone with pronounced grape taste. You could also look at Vortex, non sedative all day pain relief with a spicey cherry taste. Subcool has amazing strains.

http://www.cannaseur.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=9&Itemid=36&vmcchk=1&Itemid=36

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A little know strain by Federation called Cotton Candy really caught my eye - pain relief and a clear non sedative stone. Forum member Friobo (can never remember how to spell his name but always remember his good advice) recomends it, I've read other great reviews.

An old Vancouver Island strain that originates from Afghani and Haze seed lines, recognized by the medical community for its pain relief without the drowsiness.

Wonderful fragrance with an earthy flavor and long lasting high. The Cotton Candy will produce one ounce of dense bud per gallon of soil/root mass. The Cotton Candy has deep green leaves with a bushy growth structure that makes it almost as wide as it is tall.

Known for its astringent qualities, the Cotton Candy has an extreme drying effect and it is recommended a glass of water or juice should be at hand while medicating.


Flowering 8 weeks



http://www.hempdepot.ca/seeds/federation/CottonCandy.html

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bongsmilie
 

Rocky Top High

Well-Known Member
Hobbes great posts, but if you're going to link thcfarmer give the dude a heads up not to order from there.. so I hear Logic is fucking tons of people out of money.

I don't want to get into the polictics and bad karma that people like to sling on these message bopards. I prefer to speak of MY first hand experiences ONLY and not the hear say, one side of the story bullshit that so many like to spout off about.

Now, with that said, THCFarmer has been nothing but a great source of info and gear. I have NEVER experienced anything but first class gear...in a timely manner. Very straight forward...very upfront with info and I have ALWAYS recieved my gear with absolutely ZERO bullshit. I highly reccomend THCFarmer for OGRaskals and Cali Connection gear. I also reccomend BillyGoat seeds. He has a Trainwreck in seed form as well.

I am not going to dispute what this dude says. However he claims it to be hearsay and personally, I only like to talk about things that I have experience with. These constant rumours that steamroll around the internet does nothing to help our quest for good genetics.

Just my 2 cents worth and I highly reccomend THCFarmer. Hell, just go visit and decide for yourself NOT from some hearsay bullshit that spreads like wildfire!!!

Here is the link. Give it a try and make up your own mind...http://www.thcfarmer.com/
 

frmrboi

Well-Known Member
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A little know strain by Federation called Cotton Candy really caught my eye - pain relief and a clear non sedative stone. Forum member Friobo (can never remember how to spell his name)
it's frmrboi (farmer without the vowels, sheesh) :hump:
 
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