Stereotyping Dear Amy Letter

AverageJoe88

Well-Known Member
Check out this article in my local paper:

DEAR AMY:
I'm a (more or less) straight woman in a relationship with a man 10 years older. We've been together for more than a year, living in the same house (with housemates). He is mature, compassionate, sweet, and supportive in many ways. He had some experiences in his teen years that he feels have scarred him, including going to prison for a naive, one-time experience with selling drugs.

He has dealt with his problems mainly through sobriety and Buddhism, but a few months before we met, he decided to start smoking marijuana again, both to process his teen angst and to elicit his creative, emotional side. He seems to spend about half (or more) of his evenings stoned.

I don't smoke pot because it makes me incredibly paranoid, and I don't really like him as much when he's high. Honestly, I don't even want to be around him. The fact that I hate it seems to make him smoke more. When he is sober, I am so happy to be with him, and I feel at ease. When he is stoned, I dislike him and don't want to be around him.

I support him as a person, but I want to have kids -- and not with someone who is using pot to work out his teen issues. He's also fairly disorganized and barely works.

I want a relationship that feels good for the long haul. Should I suck it up and hope it's a phase? We have a hard time talking about this stuff and the tension is terrible. -- Unsure Monogamist

DEAR UNSURE: According to your narrative, your guy was 100% sober at one time -- but all this stopped just before you met. Are you sure he has ever been completely sober? And since he's dropped the sobriety -- what happened to the Buddhism?

My read is that his previous periods of sobriety were phases and what you have now -- the person who is stoned half the time to unlock his creativity and deal with his teen issues and who doesn't seem to work very hard -- that's him.

You two have a classic addiction dynamic (whether it's alcohol, pot, food or tobacco).

He is not long-term partner/father-of-your-children material. He should seek spiritual and/or psychological counselling to deal with his "teen issues." You should join in the large and growing "friends and family" fellowship by checking out a Nar-Anon meeting (Nar-anon.org). You might gain insight into the prospects of being with someone who is only 50% there.



So many things in this article bother me. The suggestion that NA is required for casual use at night is ridiculous. In the last sentence she says "being with someone who is only 50% there" , is an attempt to say that somehow someone who uses cannabis is not coherent and not able to participate. So if I smoke a joint and watch a movie I am creating an addiction dynamic, what a joke. Also the suggestion that she doesn't want to be around when he is stoned is just a controlling technique, you don't do exactly as she wants and she takes away her companionship.

I had a relationship once like this and it was horrible. She would switch on me as soon as she thought I was stoned. I quit for 6 months once and was miserable but she loved it. I realized that she didn't care about me or my happiness it was all about her. Articles like this always seem to slip in that whole weed and no work thing. I work very calm and never get frustrated when working and using cannabis.
 

ayr0n

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I had a relationship once like this and it was horrible. She would switch on me as soon as she thought I was stoned. I quit for 6 months once and was miserable but she loved it. I realized that she didn't care about me or my happiness it was all about her.
this all sounds oddly familiar.
 

Doggonewild

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lol getting stoned makes work bearable i can work 12 hours if i got a few L's but if i dont my mood decreases rapidly and im going home.getting stoned helps with the body pain from working long hours but i don't think i can put my opinion on this because i have had adhd (cant sit down or focus on one boring thing) since i was little so i guess it helps me act normal, but i can be stoned and work 3 times faster than the sober employees so i call bullshit everyone's different don't blame weed. i feel like women get what they want too much, they done got used to it but i guess its our fault(guys).(but im speaking for the younger crowd.used to be different). why cant we treat everyone as equals. break up with him because he wont work not because you don't like him smoking pot.
 

Ace Yonder

Well-Known Member
Check out this article in my local paper:

DEAR AMY:
I'm a (more or less) straight woman in a relationship with a man 10 years older. We've been together for more than a year, living in the same house (with housemates). He is mature, compassionate, sweet, and supportive in many ways. He had some experiences in his teen years that he feels have scarred him, including going to prison for a naive, one-time experience with selling drugs.

He has dealt with his problems mainly through sobriety and Buddhism, but a few months before we met, he decided to start smoking marijuana again, both to process his teen angst and to elicit his creative, emotional side. He seems to spend about half (or more) of his evenings stoned.

I don't smoke pot because it makes me incredibly paranoid, and I don't really like him as much when he's high. Honestly, I don't even want to be around him. The fact that I hate it seems to make him smoke more. When he is sober, I am so happy to be with him, and I feel at ease. When he is stoned, I dislike him and don't want to be around him.

I support him as a person, but I want to have kids -- and not with someone who is using pot to work out his teen issues. He's also fairly disorganized and barely works.

I want a relationship that feels good for the long haul. Should I suck it up and hope it's a phase? We have a hard time talking about this stuff and the tension is terrible. -- Unsure Monogamist

DEAR UNSURE: According to your narrative, your guy was 100% sober at one time -- but all this stopped just before you met. Are you sure he has ever been completely sober? And since he's dropped the sobriety -- what happened to the Buddhism?

My read is that his previous periods of sobriety were phases and what you have now -- the person who is stoned half the time to unlock his creativity and deal with his teen issues and who doesn't seem to work very hard -- that's him.

You two have a classic addiction dynamic (whether it's alcohol, pot, food or tobacco).

He is not long-term partner/father-of-your-children material. He should seek spiritual and/or psychological counselling to deal with his "teen issues." You should join in the large and growing "friends and family" fellowship by checking out a Nar-Anon meeting (Nar-anon.org). You might gain insight into the prospects of being with someone who is only 50% there.



So many things in this article bother me. The suggestion that NA is required for casual use at night is ridiculous. In the last sentence she says "being with someone who is only 50% there" , is an attempt to say that somehow someone who uses cannabis is not coherent and not able to participate. So if I smoke a joint and watch a movie I am creating an addiction dynamic, what a joke. Also the suggestion that she doesn't want to be around when he is stoned is just a controlling technique, you don't do exactly as she wants and she takes away her companionship.

I had a relationship once like this and it was horrible. She would switch on me as soon as she thought I was stoned. I quit for 6 months once and was miserable but she loved it. I realized that she didn't care about me or my happiness it was all about her. Articles like this always seem to slip in that whole weed and no work thing. I work very calm and never get frustrated when working and using cannabis.
If he was smoking pot when she met him she has no right to ask him to stop. It's not like he was one way and then started somethign and changed, she MET him while he was like this. If she doesn't like him on pot then she doesn't like him period. Also, NarAnon is slightly different than NA which is Narcotics Anonymous, NarAnon is for FAMILY of addicts not for addicts themselves, but it doesn't really matter is just another useless, indoctrinating outreach program for the church. 12 steps are all just religious recruitment scams.
 

Flagg420

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Right, pot smokers are irresponsible lazy ne'er do wells...

Spiritual counseling, thats the answer!!

Yea, right, and the next time my car loses traction on the ice, I should just let go of the wheel, and let Jesus save my baby......

Ppl who think religion is the answer, dont understand the question to begin with....
 

Flagg420

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If I didn't smoke @ work, I'd get fired for chewing someones ass hardcore within 2 days... I deal with a lot of just stupid people and common sense issues my stress level some days is just past "punch a hole in the wall" level.... and when u work maintenance/engineering, thats just making more work for yourself... even if u do it at home....
 

warble

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First its the cannabis, then its the testicles. Some people need mostly straight, control freaks in their lives. Most people do not. Control freaks need to feel some sort of control, but if they're dealing with internal strife, then controlling someone else helps them think they have some control. Unsure is just asking for permission, to manipulate another human.
 
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