Stepped out of my comfort zone.

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    selfmedicator462

    selfmedicator462 Well-Known Member

    IMG_2321.JPG So I've been SCROGing for a few years and decided I'm sick of dealing with it. Don't get me wrong it's done me well but it's just too hard to maintain in my little room. It's hard to reach the back of the plant to trim under growth, hard to check for problems and if I have to do a filter or fan change mid grow it's impossible. So I figured low stress training was the way to go. This way I can rotate the plant and if need be, remove it from the room. I can also cut down on my veg time. Hopefully my quality will go up. Don't really care about quantity anymore. I was producing way more than I could ever smoke. Any pointers or concerns are appreciated.
     
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    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    I'm not a big fan of SCROG either. It definitely has advantages, but I'd rather just grow nine well-trimmed plants instead of six brushy ones under a net. Easy to rotate and pull out of the tent if they need individual attention.
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    that looks great,, but works best in soil containers i guess,, cant rotate and lift out in most hydro or SIP type grows, I suppose you could lift out and rotate in DWC
     
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    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    Yep. I hand water my plants. It's a hassle, but it's nice to be able to use nutes that would cause problems in hydro systems.
    Everything is a trade off.
    I'm still on the fence about my next grow. Can't decide between a coir mix or organic water-only soil. I've already got everything I need to do either one.
    Hmm...
     
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    selfmedicator462

    selfmedicator462 Well-Known Member

    I hand water. Smart pots and promix
     
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    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    Can't go wrong with promix HP.
    Ever thought about mixing in a little kitty litter?
    $4 at wal-mart
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    pookat

    pookat Well-Known Member

    i use clear rubble bags peat +50-75% kitty litter sort of organic.
    if i got a good mum then she gets a bed box aswell, slice the base of the bag -ya can see the root's- on to the extended root base, she can get big n bushy, great for cuts.
    lol chunky £3.75 at tesco
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    my current grow is a water only soil grow, so i am partial to grows that way now
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    outstanding mainlining by the way!!! 2 thumbs up
     
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    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    What's your mix?
    I was thinking about using 3 cubic feet of "torn bag" soil from home depot (half price). I believe it's Dr. Earth brand. Add 1 cubic foot of worm castings, 1 cubic foot of special kitty, and a cup or two of Epsoma tomato (dry fert).
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    i got some soil amendments from "Buildasoil.com" i used some left over dirt from a container tomato from last summer,, i also put in some horse manure compost ,,( we have 2 horses),, some chicken manure compost ( used to have about 20 chickens, plenty of poop out there where they used to be,, has cooked for about 4 years),, I added domolite lime and some happy frog dry nute, the little bit of old soil started life as FFOF,, so its a missh mash of this and that,,
    the plants are kickin ass in it,, healthy ist grow i have ever had,, water only so far,, i have put a little cal mag in the water,, because i am under cobs, and the plants were demanding it when they were little, I think the lime is starting to break down now,, the last to res fills were just plain water,,, water comes out of my faucet at 6.5 ph,, we are on a well,, ppm is close to zero ,,
     
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    selfmedicator462

    selfmedicator462 Well-Known Member

    I use Promix HP and a bunch of perilite and some lime. Whats the advantage of kitty litter?
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    i am wondering also,, my only guess is it retains water,, the clumping?,, unless they use the older non clumping stuff
     
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    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    Improves aeration while holding a little water. I've also heard that it provides sulfur.
    And it doesn't float, which I really like.
    My plants *really* dig it.
    Hell, I put 100 lbs of special kitty in my garden and grew 10 foot sunflowers! And we had a SHLOAD of zucchini. Couldn't give it away fast enough...
     
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    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    Special Kitty natural cat litter is calcined clay. Same as Turface.
    Consistency of ground up clay bricks.
    Definitely non-clumping.
     
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    selfmedicator462

    selfmedicator462 Well-Known Member

    Couple hrs later and she already adjusted. Love these plants! IMG_2328.JPG
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    totally radical
     
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    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    I was surprised how much abuse young plants can tolerate. I have taken long lanky plants & pinned the meristems down in a circle around the pot. They were a little annoyed at first, but adjusted within a few days.
    Don't try to LST mature plants. They will snap.
     
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    selfmedicator462

    selfmedicator462 Well-Known Member

    Might veg this one 2 more weeks or so. This is Cali connection CBD OG by the way.
     
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    Nugachino

    Nugachino Well-Known Member

    Never done scrog. But that topping-lst method you're using works a treat. You're still getting a canopy of sorts. Just that instead of one main cola. You're getting a whole bunch of them.
     
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