Space thread what they didn't want you to see

Harrekin

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real question is, what really happens if you fart in a space suit... I'm bettin it puffs up real big then automatically vents excess pressure to the void. So maybe the moon DOES have a little bit of atmosphere now. Just a little.
You realise given that a space suit is an enclosed enviroment, that the pressure is always the same because everything contained within already displaces the space it needs.

Also it is not "nearly 0 kelvin" on the moon, infact it's not "nearly 0K" anywhere. Go Google "absolute zero".
 

Dr Kynes

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You realise given that a space suit is an enclosed enviroment, that the pressure is always the same because everything contained within already displaces the space it needs.

Also it is not "nearly 0 kelvin" on the moon, infact it's not "nearly 0K" anywhere. Go Google "absolute zero".
In space, in shadow, temperature drops precipitously, theoretically to 0. with no atmospheric mass to hold the heat, and a highly reflective, and poorly conductive lunar surface when the moon turns it's ass to the sun, the surface temp can plummet to 100 degrees Kelvin( -279.4 ºF or -173 ºC which is FUCKING COLD AS SHIT but i didnt want to bore the crap out of everybody digging up 60 year old research papers, and citing articles most people wont even read.) http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_query?bibcode=1964ApJ...139..734M&db_key=AST&page_ind=8&data_type=GIF&type=SCREEN_VIEW&classic=YES in a few minutes. in open space, when solar radiation is blocked by a celestial body, the void can easily drop close to 0 degrees kelvin in a few seconds as there is nothing to hold radiate or conduct heat in empty space.

The space suit comment was a joke. but farts are under pressure in the intestinal tract and colon, held under pressure by the sphincter of the anus. Gasses can and do compress under pressure so the release could cause a minute increase in the suit's overall volume as the flatus expands. In addition to the smell. There would of course be no increase in mass. but that would have been silly.:-P
 

Doer

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Hey, no problem, we cite articles in the science section, I like to read citations.

IAC, anus space gas must be contained as the frozen mist would foul your partner's visor. :)
 

psari

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The space suit comment was a joke. but farts are under pressure in the intestinal tract and colon, held under pressure by the sphincter of the anus. Gasses can and do compress under pressure so the release could cause a minute increase in the suit's overall volume as the flatus expands. In addition to the smell. There would of course be no increase in mass. but that would have been silly.:-P

Which of course brings this to mind. Farts and space. Everyone loves their own brand, but ... :


. hrm, punch line takes a minute to show up ...

[video=youtube;wbAF1EExpek]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbAF1EExpek[/video]
 

Dr Kynes

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Which of course brings this to mind. Farts and space. Everyone loves their own brand, but ... :


. hrm, punch line takes a minute to show up ...
DAMN!@ now i gotta watch that film!!!!

I got a cramp laughin at those pricks in mission control!
 

Doer

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Oh, I have stop short of using making characterization insults. There is no way to know that.
 

ismokealotofpot

New Member
thanks for all the insults. anyone have real proof. do you have some moon rocks in your pocket? what about the back drops same mountain ranges two different landing sites you guys are as blind as a bat. do you realize people have been giving me rep because the agree with me. they dont want to post because of you trolls talking shit. if you dont like what i say dont post its real simple. this is my thread and ill continue this until you provide proof even then I will still be posting alien technology of coarse you wont believe that either but you will still make comments im sure.
 

Heisenberg

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thanks for all the insults. anyone have real proof. do you have some moon rocks in your pocket? what about the back drops same mountain ranges two different landing sites you guys are as blind as a bat. do you realize people have been giving me rep because the agree with me. they dont want to post because of you trolls talking shit. if you dont like what i say dont post its real simple. this is my thread and ill continue this until you provide proof even then I will still be posting alien technology of coarse you wont believe that either but you will still make comments im sure.
Strange that you would get so emotional about investigation. Why would it make you angry if we have been to the moon? You may see it as trolling, but this is how reasonable people react to conspiracy logic. Your arguments just don't hold up under critical thinking, it's not our fault. Your conduct has been to ignore anything that doesn't agree with you, and now you are playing the victim. I suppose these are the tactics you are left with when your position is indefensible.
 

Doer

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Strange that you would get so emotional about investigation. Why would it make you angry if we have been to the moon? You may see it as trolling, but this is how reasonable people react to conspiracy logic. Your arguments just don't hold up under critical thinking, it's not our fault. Your conduct has been to ignore anything that doesn't agree with you, and now you are playing the victim. I suppose these are the tactics you are left with when your position is indefensible.
Yeah, it drives folks into a very defensive posture to not be right. Then we get the questioning about their Position that get's ignored, turned around, and becomes ammo for the emotion play. It's a very pervasive attitude among Western males, it seems. We can propose interesting avenues and this one is as interesting as many. The interest, to me is how people believe what they believe. Not so much what we believe, but how? And can we get to the bottom if reasonable debate can take place. It's just hard to separate those that are truely thirsty for increasing understanding from those that are trying to maintain a position. And it morphs as the raw insults pile up. Then there are those marginal personalities that just practice a haughty form of buzz kill, for their own amusement.

So, I've learned, Mr. H is not a buzz kill type. I try not to be. To me the question is not "IF," it's WHY does the US not have any missions planned but India, for example has manned missions planned out till 2030. Has the US seem all it need and the other nations need to see "something" for themselves?

It just occurred to me that this persistence myth, that we never went, could be just remnant of a smokescreen for that "something" we need other spacefaring nations to see, before the general public is alarmed to death.
 

Padawanbater2

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Yeah, it drives folks into a very defensive posture to not be right. Then we get the questioning about their Position that get's ignored, turned around, and becomes ammo for the emotion play. It's a very pervasive attitude among Western males, it seems. We can propose interesting avenues and this one is as interesting as many. The interest, to me is how people believe what they believe. Not so much what we believe, but how? And can we get to the bottom if reasonable debate can take place. It's just hard to separate those that are truely thirsty for increasing understanding from those that are trying to maintain a position. And it morphs as the raw insults pile up. Then there are those marginal personalities that just practice a haughty form of buzz kill, for their own amusement.

So, I've learned, Mr. H is not a buzz kill type. I try not to be. To me the question is not "IF," it's WHY does the US not have any missions planned but India, for example has manned missions planned out till 2030. Has the US seem all it need and the other nations need to see "something" for themselves?

It just occurred to me that this persistence myth, that we never went, could be just remnant of a smokescreen for that "something" we need other spacefaring nations to see, before the general public is alarmed to death.
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Doer

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Probably so. It isn't a wonder the other nations want to build up the tech. It's a wonder that the US culture just doesn't really care if we went or not. Or really cares to go again.
 

Padawanbater2

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Probably so. It isn't a wonder the other nations want to build up the tech. It's a wonder that the US culture just doesn't really care if we went or not. Or really cares to go again.
Well there's your problem.. having hope in the American culture.

American Idol is cemented in American culture, that should give you a good idea of the kinds of people you hope develop an interest in space exploration.
 

Doer

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Well there's your problem.. having hope in the American culture.

American Idol is cemented in American culture, that should give you a good idea of the kinds of people you hope develop an interest in space exploration.
Mouth wording. I never said I had hope. :)
 

Dr Kynes

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It just occurred to me that this persistence myth, that we never went, could be just remnant of a smokescreen for that "something" we need other spacefaring nations to see, before the general public is alarmed to death.
Or maybe, after the last Apollo mission, NASA realized that flying a billion dollar roman candle millions of mile into the black is a big expense, just to go see the blasted and barren moonscape, when they could just go to Detroit. It's is a little more dangerous than blasting off into space, but it's a lot cheaper. If India and Japan want to go to the moon, they can burn their own money. Plus, we already done t, ad we pissed all over the place up there. Theyll have to wade around in Neil Armstrong's urine, and dodge John Glenn's turds.

AMERICA FUCK YEAH!!! Screw the moon, we are done wit that shithole. Next stop MARS!! We need someplace to dump our toxic waste and spent nuclear fuel!
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Or maybe, after the last Apollo mission, NASA realized that flying a billion dollar roman candle millions of mile into the black is a big expense, just to go see the blasted and barren moonscape, when they could just go to Detroit. It's is a little more dangerous than blasting off into space, but it's a lot cheaper. If India and Japan want to go to the moon, they can burn their own money. Plus, we already done t, ad we pissed all over the place up there. Theyll have to wade around in Neil Armstrong's urine, and dodge John Glenn's turds.

AMERICA FUCK YEAH!!! Screw the moon, we are done wit that shithole. Next stop MARS!! We need someplace to dump our toxic waste and spent nuclear fuel!

Sample-return missions to Detroit have been designed and flown, but something always happened to the return stage. The videos are inconclusive, but ...

 

Red1966

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You see an anomaly and you automatically assign an explanation without any invesigation -- wires. You do this because it confirms your preexisting belief yet you don't seek alternative explanations like lens flare and film artifacts. This is NOT the way to conduct critical thinking which will ultimately lead to truth, this is the way of conspiracy theorists that only seek to make evidence fit their already established conclusions. The MB take the true skeptical approach... Let's assume the conspiracies are correct so let's try to show how to simulate microgravity. When they are unable to use a gravity rig (wires) and have it appear to be the same as the film from NASA, then the only conclusion is that it WASN'T done that way. If you won't even acknowledge the points made in the debunking by MB and others, why should anyone take you seriously?
You see an anomaly and you automatically assign an explanation without any invesigation -- wires. You do this because it confirms your preexisting belief yet you don't seek alternative explanations
Damn, you stole my rant!
 

Weedasaurus

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hoax or not. It doesn't matter. we could send people to mars now if we wanted to. It just doesn't make sense to. The money is better spend on rovers.
 

Doer

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What we can see, is the first Commercial Space mission and it's success. Dragon has landed.
One small step for BIG $$$$$.
 

Doer

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It is a very unusual thing when harsh talk is more interesting than the first commercial space mission, but I guess we could have guessed.

Surprised there are no others to agree? I'm not. But, that could cause anger in some, I guess. <shrug>
 
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