Soil vs DWC - Your Thoughts

unwine99 said:

I grow using all 3 -- soil, soilless, dwc -- depending on what mood I'm in. If I'm looking for some fast amazing growth and yield-- usually just for fun -- I run dwc. If I'm looking for the real true high grade -- I use soil. In my experience I've found herb grown in soil to be more tasty and fragrant than in dwc.

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TheChemist77 said:

its tue to an extent, soil does provide a more earthy taste, however in dwc or any hydro if you flush for 3 days before harvest and let your buds dry and cure properly you get the true flavor of the plant.. with soil as you cant wash away all the nutrients in the soil, your actually getting the flavor from the medium...so in all truth the flavor from hydro is actually more the plants taste, wile soil is a mix of the plant and its medium..but most people, me included love the soil, plant taste best as it evolks that true organic kind of flavor you cant get in hydro...I HOPE YOULL AGREE

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unwine99 said:

I grow using all 3 -- soil, soilless, dwc -- depending on what mood I'm in. If I'm looking for some fast amazing growth and yield-- usually just for fun -- I run dwc. If I'm looking for the real true high grade -- I use soil. In my experience I've found herb grown in soil to be more tasty and fragrant than in dwc.

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TheChemist77 said:

its tue to an extent, soil does provide a more earthy taste, however in dwc or any hydro if you flush for 3 days before harvest and let your buds dry and cure properly you get the true flavor of the plant.. with soil as you cant wash away all the nutrients in the soil, your actually getting the flavor from the medium...so in all truth the flavor from hydro is actually more the plants taste, wile soil is a mix of the plant and its medium..but most people, me included love the soil, plant taste best as it evolks that true organic kind of flavor you cant get in hydro...I HOPE YOULL AGREE

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foreverflyhi said:

Agree with most of what you said, however, my organic grown herb does not taste or have any taste that is related to the medium in the final product. That's why we don't flush in true organic soil, because there's nothing bad we have to flush out. Them micro beasties do all the work

Now my two cents on hydro or organic soil.

As we all kno, It all comes down to the genetics, proper organic medium, proper enviroment and last but not least drying/curing process.

So subjectively I say , hydro does not bring out more of the plant taste, it does the opposite, it brings out the medium's synthetic upbringing taste. Burns your throat in the inhale, exhale has that chemical after taste. (Flush all you want, that shit ain't fooling me or anyone that knows there shit)

The only pro I see with hydro is it's slightly faster, and sure it's fun lol.

However I would counter that because I believe it's not natural for a plant to grow too fast, this causes the plant to have a weak immune system, which makes it more vulnerable to pest and disease, thus relying on more chemicals to stop these sort of medium related attacks.
And no synthetic does not prudce a higher yield, this is also false.

In organics, the genetics grow to their true natural form, building a strong healthy immune system from which it gets from the organic medium.

My organic grown herb is by far superior in every way compared to any hydro set up. Sure this can be subjective, but eh, been there, done that.

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foreverflyhi said:

Agree with most of what you said, however, my organic grown herb does not taste or have any taste that is related to the medium in the final product. That's why we don't flush in true organic soil, because there's nothing bad we have to flush out. Them micro beasties do all the work

Now my two cents on hydro or organic soil.

As we all kno, It all comes down to the genetics, proper organic medium, proper enviroment and last but not least drying/curing process.

So subjectively I say , hydro does not bring out more of the plant taste, it does the opposite, it brings out the medium's synthetic upbringing taste. Burns your throat in the inhale, exhale has that chemical after taste. (Flush all you want, that shit ain't fooling me or anyone that knows there shit)

The only pro I see with hydro is it's slightly faster, and sure it's fun lol.

However I would counter that because I believe it's not natural for a plant to grow too fast, this causes the plant to have a weak immune system, which makes it more vulnerable to pest and disease, thus relying on more chemicals to stop these sort of medium related attacks.
And no synthetic does not prudce a higher yield, this is also false.

In organics, the genetics grow to their true natural form, building a strong healthy immune system from which it gets from the organic medium.

My organic grown herb is by far superior in every way compared to any hydro set up. Sure this can be subjective, but eh, been there, done that.

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Dankfactory said:

This thread seems to make the assumption that Soil vs DWC is a discussion about Organics Vs Synthetics..
Nothing could be further from the truth, and it's evident that there aren't any who have responded( maybe there has, I'm not going to read every post of the thread however) who even truly understand DWC and its different sub categories such as Beneficial Bac Vs "Sterile" ( a slang term non Ben Bac systems are of course not sterile), and some other nuances within DeepWaterCulture. By the way, salts are salts are salts and the plant does not know the difference. This is basic chemistry. Elements are elements. What is important is what materials were processed to arrive at the ionic form. One could argue that the only logical reason to use Organics is that a synthetic fert company is only required to list the guaranteed analysis on the packaging. There could be any number of filler ingredients. That's for another discussion however.
For the record I run Organics in DWC combined with a chiller. Someone previously mentioned that a chiller isn't necessary in DWC. What an amusing statement. Sure, it's not "necessary" to run a chiller, just like it's not "necessary" to crank up your vehicle's AC in August. Perhaps a poor analogy, since the consequences can be much more detrimental to a plant with even lukewarm water as opposed to chilled. For the sake of brevity, chilled water will hold a higher dissolved O2 content,(which is why solid flow is key) which equates to a healthy root system. A chiller also allows for running a gunkier organic option through your lines without much worry of algae blooms, Pythium etc..
To add to the Poll vote: DWC will always utterly trump soil. Period. There is simply nothing soil has to offer that you can't acheive tenfold in a chilled Res with "Organics."

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Dankfactory said:

This thread seems to make the assumption that Soil vs DWC is a discussion about Organics Vs Synthetics..
Nothing could be further from the truth, and it's evident that there aren't any who have responded( maybe there has, I'm not going to read every post of the thread however) who even truly understand DWC and its different sub categories such as Beneficial Bac Vs "Sterile" ( a slang term non Ben Bac systems are of course not sterile), and some other nuances within DeepWaterCulture. By the way, salts are salts are salts and the plant does not know the difference. This is basic chemistry. Elements are elements. What is important is what materials were processed to arrive at the ionic form. One could argue that the only logical reason to use Organics is that a synthetic fert company is only required to list the guaranteed analysis on the packaging. There could be any number of filler ingredients. That's for another discussion however.
For the record I run Organics in DWC combined with a chiller. Someone previously mentioned that a chiller isn't necessary in DWC. What an amusing statement. Sure, it's not "necessary" to run a chiller, just like it's not "necessary" to crank up your vehicle's AC in August. Perhaps a poor analogy, since the consequences can be much more detrimental to a plant with even lukewarm water as opposed to chilled. For the sake of brevity, chilled water will hold a higher dissolved O2 content,(which is why solid flow is key) which equates to a healthy root system. A chiller also allows for running a gunkier organic option through your lines without much worry of algae blooms, Pythium etc..
To add to the Poll vote: DWC will always utterly trump soil. Period. There is simply nothing soil has to offer that you can't acheive tenfold in a chilled Res with "Organics."

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unwine99 said:

I disagree -- I grow in dwc and soil. IME when growing the same cut in dwc and soil side by side -- which I do regularly -- the soil plants are much more pungent and flavorful. Yield for DWC, yes, all day long. To every upside there is a down side and vise versa. And no, a chiller isn't necessary -- Is it nice to have, yes and will HELP keep root rot in check, yes -- I've had res temps reach 80+ with no ill effects. And no, you're not the only one who understands the difference between a sterile and an "inoculated" reservoir.

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