SOG vs. long veg times

dont veg longer then 3 weeks for s.o.g. 3 weeks is to long for some stretchy sativas even..... high number of plants... short veg time {2-3weeks} and smaller pots 1-2 gallon.... i would get the square pots and put them super close togather to make best use of space/light... dont top!!!! you want single cola stlye here and honly verticle growth {no bushing!} veg till like 6-8 inches... dont let them get too big... never over 12 inches unless your growing a super short growing indica with zero stretch that takes forever to veg {examples... bubba kush, l.a. con., afghanies}

all about your growing situation, if you got SOG or SCROG yo prolly want the benefits from the height . so its good for people with horizontal space not vertical , but if you have vertical space and no horizontal ScroG would be a bad i dea, with fewer taller plants you gould get the same yeild with out having to water and feed over 10 containers . another really good reason for SCROG or SOG is hydro . but a long veg time will always get you a much stronger plant which i think gets you more dense budz

I don't make any money vegging.

VSOGs all day, every day.

Usually those who are trying to stay as Legal as can be avoid the SOG.


I would rather have LEO check up on my garden of 5 monsters than a garden of 50 mini-me plants.. They only see #

yer SOG get your plant count high as fuck .

EROsain said:

yer SOG get your plant count high as fuck .

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depends on how you design it but 99 plants is a lot of plants still (if your scared) me ill do whatever when the feds come its not gonna matter what a statey says plus i dont think the feds really care about #s if you could grow 10lbs off one efficiently and you had 30 of them bitchs i think they would hit you just as hard as if you had 400 smalls clones producing an 1-2oz ea. maths probably off but you get the idea


hell yeah express absolutely right 4x4 pots into 1 gal pots under 3 weeks veg, bluecheese, a purp strain and a stretchy ass widow(as for sativa dom vegged too long that stretch and fuck shit up) i just had to expand my grow area for.

true . but you can screw up with the plant count cuz of clones and seedlings if your perpetual . but the feds wouldn't prolly care

The feds might only care about numbers when it's over 99, but they make it look bad on the news either way, that's what sucks. Most Americans that don't know much about the plant think it's a problem every time they here 80 plants...or 800 plants in a collective. Sometimes they'll even show the bigger plants in the media coverage just so that it seems like every plant looked like that. Not to say we shouldn't grow how we want to or however works best for us though. I tried SOG and it was just too much work for me, but I can see why other people like it better too.

I flower out 90 plants in my structure and keep 8 moms............save for the last two weeks of every cycle (when I've taken clones for the next cycle), I leave myself one plant of federal wiggle room

rooted clones , vegging plants , and plants in flower are all considered plants and are counted as a plant when your raided it comes down to how much balls you got but remember bottom line its illegal and plant count dictates jail time cause if you think you get charged only for growing think again theres conspiracy also i used to be one of them that grew crazy amount of plants and i mean crazy over 700 clones , 700 plants in veg and 700 in flower and i tell yea its fckin scary fun to do may be once or 2 times but no matter what consider your self lucky if you don't get caught cause you read about it all the time grows going down and its just a matter of time as well with smart meters etc hell when you get 1800.00 dollar power bills every 2 months and power company calls wondering whats going on ?? cause previous 5 years there was nowhere as much power consumption
so now its about growing only a few vegging longer and staying under the radar yes longer veg = better yields
as well SOG really isnt efficient cause your lucky to get half of a plant when harvesting other half is popcorn and under developed bud theres a lot of better techniques out there to produce yields

Bob Smith said:

I flower out 90 plants in my structure and keep 8 moms............save for the last two weeks of every cycle (when I've taken clones for the next cycle), I leave myself one plant of federal wiggle room

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and what do you get for yield from 90 plants if i may ask ??

4-5 pounds usually, shooting for 5.5 this round.

1800 watts of lighting (4 600s, only 3 on at any one time).

see i just completed 4 plant 4 pound harvest 2000 watts no need to grow so many bro just veg longer and use bigger totes

If you're happy doing what you're doing, then we're all happy - don't see the point in giving advice to someone pulling anywhere from 15-25% more weight than you with 10% less wattage and a sliver of the veg time that you use, but I do appreciate the thought.

I'm gonna keep doing what I do best, and you do the same - BTW, not all of us grow in "totes'

all can say wow.

but on another not theirs room for improvement, and really only one thing i coould see, if you wanted to fit more units in there (if) you need to organize the space around the grow where you work to also be space efficient, really i would try and use pannel board in a removeable fasion orund that system to make it more like a sealed chamber too. but just some food for though otherwise im drooling.

oh i see the plastic that probably works better now i understand the first pic. lol i was wtf a trash bag?

40 days veg isnt that bad yea think

Assuming a 60 day flowering and your forty days of veg (total cycle of 100 days), you're turning over (365/100) = 3.65 crops a year @ 4 lbs per crop = 14.6lbs. per year.

Assuming a 60 day flowering and my ten days of veg (total cycle of 70 days), I'm turning over (365/70) = 5.21 crops per year @ 4.5lbs. per crop = 23.4 lbs. per year.

Bob Smith said:

If you're happy doing what you're doing, then we're all happy - don't see the point in giving advice to someone pulling anywhere from 15-25% more weight than you with 10% less wattage and a sliver of the veg time that you use, but I do appreciate the thought.

I'm gonna keep doing what I do best, and you do the same - BTW, not all of us grow in "totes'

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Bob Smith said:

If you're happy doing what you're doing, then we're all happy - don't see the point in giving advice to someone pulling anywhere from 15-25% more weight than you with 10% less wattage and a sliver of the veg time that you use, but I do appreciate the thought.

I'm gonna keep doing what I do best, and you do the same - BTW, not all of us grow in "totes'

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