So who here is growing in true organic living soil?

Rrog

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Good question. You could look at it as food contribution to the microbes, or as a bud flavorizer.

Personally, I'm not looking to pour sugar all over the soil and disrupt the natural microbe / plant relationship that's working fine.

Regarding bud flavoring, you hear folks adding sulfur for the same reason- looking to enhance flavor. Some guys say it works, some say it doesn't.
 
Rrog

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I had asked this Q on ICMag a few years ago. In the Organic Soil area. Sugar vs juice vs molasses vs sulfur. Lots of different answers from some experienced growers. No consensus, which I thought was weird.
 
Dr.Pecker

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Ive been using the sugar in the raw for a while and I think it works pretty good.All the flavors of the plant seem to come out and it gives a real smooth hit no coughing. It wont build up in the soil if you don't water with it every time. I use about a tablespoon every 3or4 waterings durring flower and touch the soil to make sure it doesn't get sticky. I have a friend that uses maple syrup and he grows monsters ten to twelve feet tall here in michigan If I recall his was fairly smooth also.
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This shit makes me hack real bad and makes all the weed taste the same imo. as far as i know molasses is a byproduct from cane sugar. sugar in the raw is unprocessed canesugar so it has molasses in it but like I said it makes a smoother more flavorful bud.
 
Rrog

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As far as trying to adjust flavor, molasses is likely the one most commonly used.

Also used very commonly for microbes.

I don't do either, but that's just me
 
Dr.Pecker

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Rrog said:
As far as trying to adjust flavor, molasses is likely the one most commonly used.

Also used very commonly for microbes.

I don't do either, but that's just me
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Thats about the opposite of what I was saying. to each his own i guess. I dont like the molasses flavor.
 
Dr.Pecker

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im not sure if my friend uses the raw maple sap or cooks it down to syrup Ill have to call him and find that out.
 
st0wandgrow

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Molasses has some mineral content, but it's primary purpose is as a food stock for the microbes in the soil. As far as it affecting the taste of your bud, I'm beyond skeptical. I'd be open to reading documentation to the contrary, but I doubt you'll find any credible sources. That's like saying people that use manures in their soil are making their weed taste like shit. It just doesn't work that way
 
ayr0n

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Dr.Pecker said:
Its all composted no smell at all.
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Ohh gotcha. I'm clueless as you can probably tell from the question lol. Just getting started.

Just out of curiosity - when you drive by a field where they just laid manure, do you know if that's way in advance of planting crops n they let it "compost" or break down first?
 
Dr.Pecker

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ayr0n said:
Ohh gotcha. I'm clueless as you can probably tell from the question lol. Just getting started.

Just out of curiosity - when you drive by a field where they just laid manure, do you know if that's way in advance of planting crops n they let it "compost" or break down first?
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I use it in the garden and never have a problem.
I have heard of people planting seeds in fresh green patties and getting them to grow. I wouldnt use it like that on pot but I know people that do.
 
DonPetro

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ayr0n said:
Ohh gotcha. I'm clueless as you can probably tell from the question lol. Just getting started.

Just out of curiosity - when you drive by a field where they just laid manure, do you know if that's way in advance of planting crops n they let it "compost" or break down first?
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We used to spread manure on the fields in the fall for it to break down all winter and spring. After twelve hours of spreading shit, i gotta say, one shower will not suffice.
 
Stompromper

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Murfy said:
me too-

smart dood, pro gardener. sorry for the non organic plug. right now every walmart has schultz rooting powder on clearance for 2 bucks.

for a natural solution, find a tree that grows prolific suckers. willow is a good example of this. all those suckers, are full of rooting hormones(cytokines?). apple works too.
prune an amount of the suckers, and cut them into one inch pieces with the cedar snips. place snipped suckers into bowl and cover with water. cover bowl and let soak for 24-48 hours. strain and use for soaking cuts. this works about as well as clonex, so if you are used to that rate switch to willow tea and sa ve $$.

schultz smokes clonex.

EDIT: the sand method requires no hormone stimulant, and works consistently on its own, albeit a little longer.(7 -14 days)
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Awww shucks..
 
Rrog

Rrog

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I'm thinking that's a good idea. Fresh Biochar will lock up N badly, so any char should have a heavy N source soaking prior to use.

Any green plant, chopped up and soaked in water will yield a N-rich solution quick.
 
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