So are cannabis clubs a scam?

shmoop

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yeah that dont look very scrogged out lol. i just harvested my first attempt at scrog and think i got about 2 lb off 2000k but we will see of course. inwill say these are the heaviest biggest og buds ive grown so far. same cut i spoke of earlier too. will post test results in a few weeks after drying and curing
no no, the main shot is of the Sea of Green that I wasnt real happy about... The ScrOG you can only see a corner of the net on the right, and the plants hadnt stretched to it yet... I thought I had a better pic of it but I guess not.
 

shmoop

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I wish I had some pics of my first 400w closet set up... for a small little set up that shit was baller
 

echlectica

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I'm going to say one thing about "mark up". If they give you 150 and sel for 400 that's a 2.5 times markup which is pretty standard markup from manufacturer to retail distributor in any industry. They have overhead as well rent, security both cameras and gaurds and sales staff pay and fuckin' legal fees so they have a right to make something in the end so if they aren't going to make 2.5 times then where are they going to make any money to eat themselves? Think about that for a minute.
 

shmoop

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I'm going to say one thing about "mark up". If they give you 150 and sel for 400 that's a 2.5 times markup which is pretty standard markup from manufacturer to retail distributor in any industry. They have overhead as well rent, security both cameras and gaurds and sales staff pay and fuckin' legal fees so they have a right to make something in the end so if they aren't going to make 2.5 times then where are they going to make any money to eat themselves? Think about that for a minute.
Sorry but you are wrong... The average gross profit margin for any small business in America is 50-60% (as in buy it for 10 sell it for 15) The average net gain - which is profit after expenses is like 7%... so... you can google it if you want
 

sacpirate

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Don't you get algae in your reservoir letting the water be exposed to light like that?
i dont and i have about the same set up but 3x6 tray over it. and our products are bought at 5_6_10$ and sell for 10_12_20 so they mark our up 100% hence me wanting to open my own cafe lol.
 

echlectica

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Don't you get algae in your reservoir letting the water be exposed to light like that?
no I clean them out at every nute change and really You only get algae growth if your res is too warm, I keep it just right in the rooms. Sometimes I do cover them but not always. If your changing your nute often and keeping it clean you have no problems you'll notice I keep my tables squeeky clean too.
 

echlectica

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Sorry but you are wrong... The average gross profit margin for any small business in America is 50-60% (as in buy it for 10 sell it for 15) The average net gain - which is profit after expenses is like 7%... so... you can google it if you want
I dunno I'm an artist too and 2.5 times is usually what stores markup my art work but who knows I'm probably getting ripped off on that....
 

shmoop

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image201301160008.jpg Heres the flower room... sorta in between cleaning and rearranging. Usually its much more organized and neat. Its a 4x8 frame with 3 2x4 rolling tables on it. So can put a round in under a low watt light then roll it to a higher watt light when I am ready to put another round in for perpetual harvest. That way they all start under a 600 and end under a 1000 and all i gotta do is roll the table over like a foot instead of moving all the plants :bigjoint::bigjoint:
 

echlectica

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well specialty stuff like that will always be different. You do glass art?
I do everything painting, wirewrapping, scupltue fabrication and I blew glass for five years http://www.glasspipes.org/ECH but that industry went much the same way I see the weed industry going. It started off good but then too many people started doing it and then they started importing glass pipes and pretty soon every TD&H was blowing glass and trying to undercut everyone else. So I just stopped and sold my gear and went back to concentrating on what I do which is growing, and doing art on the side for enjoyment and if it sells, cool. I actually started blowing glass on probation since I could get a business license and blow glass and as long as I paid them they let me do it. I stuck with it for a while after but its really dificult to demand high prices in a flooded industry so fuck it.
 

shmoop

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I do everything painting, wirewrapping, scupltue fabrication and I blew glass for five years http://www.glasspipes.org/ECH but that industry went much the same way I see the weed industry going. It started off good but then too many people started doing it and then they started importing glass pipes and pretty soon every TD&H was blowing glass and trying to undercut everyone else. So I just stopped and sold my gear and went back to concentrating on what I do which is growing, and doing art on the side for enjoyment and if it sells, cool. I actually started blowing glass on probation since I could get a business license and blow glass and as long as I paid them they let me do it. I stuck with it for a while after but its really dificult to demand high prices in a flooded industry so fuck it.
thats cool.. yeah it seems a lot of things bubble and burst these days. I hear glass blowing is hell on your lungs and that people who make a profession out of it have shorter life expectancy... I dunno. I have a seriously hair up my ass about being the best at whatever I am doing... I really feel like I can get to a point where my shit will be so good that it wont matter how many growers were here first :P maybe I'm head strong... But I feel like every great success story always kinda starts like that... people saying it wouldnt work.. people saying try something else yadda yadda and so fourth
 

echlectica

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Well looking at your room all I goota say is if you want to make more money go bigger you'll have to get upto a pound. If its top shelf without question and you have at least a pound I'm certain you can get atleast $2000 at any club in the right season which really is not now.
 

sacpirate

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ahh u guys are all chummy now how cute :spew::p but yeah bro hit me on the personal message and ill hook u up with sum good strains. i always end up giving away clones or throwing them away if i dont need them. vending clones is a great way to supplement ur grow and part of the theory behind wat we do. sell it all bro. hash keif watever. i can tell u that dabbing wax hash is the new craze with the younger crowds so look into making good clean wax hash. ubget that down perfect and its fuckn gold bro. everyone wants clean wax. one of my future projects for sure just hope i dont miss the bus haha.
 

shmoop

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Well looking at your room all I goota say is if you want to make more money go bigger you'll have to get upto a pound. If its top shelf without question and you have at least a pound I'm certain you can get atleast $2000 at any club in the right season which really is not now.
yeah thats the plan. Im going to just start on both the lights at once instead of going for a perpetual grow. I feel like under 2 lights on this next round I can get an lb easy.
 
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