So are cannabis clubs a scam?

Discussion in 'General Marijuana Growing' started by shmoop, Jan 16, 2013.

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    shmoop

    shmoop Active Member

    Hello RUI, I am fucking furious right now. So I started growing about a year ago, with money signs in my eyes hearing numbers like 2800-3200 a lb... I started small with just a 400w in my closet and then gradually kept stepping up until I got to the setup I have now which is a 600 and a 1000 in a small room(not using the 400 atm) in a perpetual grow. So this last harvest was a personal best at 10 ounces off the 1000... I know I can do better but its only like my 4th time. And it turned out perfect.. real bomb, I was even able to flush a little more than 2 weeks. So finally feeling confident enough to take my stuff around to the clubs I set out on my adventure. Only to get low ball after low ball... I'm talking super low balls... like a donkey with elephantitis. I had one dude offer me 900 for a half pound... I had one dude offer me 300 for 5 ounces(which would be about 900 a lb FOR FUCKING 100W INDOOR)... the rest just said no thanks. Why do they make this shit look so lucrative in the media and what not.. then you start growing and it seems impossible to even make what it cost you to fucking grow it...

    So what the fuck? Anyone else have this same experience? Am I just going to the wrong places? Why does this shit feel like a pyramid scheme-type scam to me? I swear to god every place I was in had more vendors than customers waiting and they were all the same age as me with the same nervous hopeful look on their face.

    I also took the liberty of checking out a lot of the places "top shelf" shit and mine could easily just as good or better. I even took the time to dry it slow and cure it a little. I had a dude tell me they would only sell my stuff for 25 an eight... then I go look at the menu and I see 450/oz 450/oz 420/oz 420/oz 400/oz 390/oz 380/oz 360/oz 350/oz then like 250 for generic outdoor shit... So are they aloud to do this? Just lie to people?

    Plus aren't they non profit? How the fuck do all these places charge tax??? Why is it they can (supposedly) buy a pound for 900-1800 of indoor then go sell it for like 4500 minimum... Thats price gouging... The average gross profit any company makes on a product is 60% more like 7% if you want to talk about net profit... But these fucking guys are turning shit around for at least 200% gross profit? AND they don't pay taxes cuz they are non profit? That just seems criminal to me...

    So I guess there's a lot there... But I'm starting to feel like all the fuckin drug dealers just moved into cannabis clubs... act like its some booming industry that needs all the growers and suppliers it can get... They show nice little wholesome mom and pop growers on fucking csnbc and msnbc specials and shit who "oh gee golly were just down on there luck and started growing then everything magically worked out..." I think its all bullshit... I think the clubs supply themselves... fuckin trick hopeful people into growing it to make a living as a "vendor" then you go in there and they just spit in your face and dont give a fuck if you come back or not cuz they never needed your fuckin weed in the first place... I bet all these assholes are the same people who own the hydroponic stores... its probably just a big run around scam...

    I hope that I am wrong and have just been unlucky in my selection... but I have invested so much into this and it was kinda like a last house on the block effort for me to do something with my failure of a life. I'm about to go straight denzel washington in this mother fucker
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    shmoop

    shmoop Active Member

    I had a dude seriously tell me that because all my nugs weren't the same size it was worthless... And another tell me that because it wasn't bone dry (as it is curing) they couldn't do anything with it... I'm like wont it just cure in your jars when it sits on the shelf??? Do these people think that I am fucking retarded or what?
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    shmoop

    shmoop Active Member

    or are they just fucking retarded
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    dabumps

    dabumps Well-Known Member

    Yo, in Cali and Colorado the market is FLOODED! Head over to DC they are setting up for despenceries there. If you get in on ground level you will get good prices for a while. I would just get your product completely dialed in or you won't keep those prices for long. It's simple economics. When the supply outweighs the demand prices plummet! EVERYONE is trying to sell to these people. EVERYONE!
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    gagekko

    gagekko Well-Known Member

    Haha... Ur asking the prices they sell at... You can get good shit in colorado for $200 an ounce... 16x$200=$3200.... Open ur own dispensary and you can get full retail prices too.
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    dabumps

    dabumps Well-Known Member

    Or go where the profit is. With risk comes gain. If you're pickin up what I'm throwin down...
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    curious2garden

    curious2garden Well-Known Member

    You've been growing for an entire year and are affronted you can not find an outlet to pay you top dollar for cannabis? Learning to do this then cultivating a buyer network takes time to do.

    Did you ask the clubs why they low balled you? You can't get insulted you have to use these interactions to gather information for improving your sales. These questions you are asking here are all questions you need to ask the potential buyers (just don't be rude no matter how insulted you are).

    Oh and non-profit means you do not sell stock.
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    shmoop

    shmoop Active Member

    I have been growing for myself for a year to get better at it... This last harvest was the first one I took to the clubs. And yeah I did ask and they said they were just fully stocked... I told one guy it seems like price gouging to buy so low and sell so high and he clearly got nervous.

    gagecko - first of all I am in california not colorado... second of all if you had read the whole post you would see that these places had ounces for up to 450, and grams for 20.... And my shit was easily comparable to the 450 shit.... I didn't ask for 2800-3200.. I said those were numbers I was hearing going into this... and I use to trim for a big commercial grower... I was looking for like 150 an oz... for what they are selling it for thats fucking easily doable..

    dabumps - haha I'm not moving to dc for this shit... Id rather find a shit job in CA than grow weed in DC. Unless you actually mean washington state... that would be easier... And I understand supply and demand... I just wish they wouldn't act like demand is so fucking high when its not... I have been talking to the clubs (just kinda casually) when I go in for clones or whatever... and they have all consistently acted like they just are just taking everything they can get because its just flying off the shelves.. Like I literally had people telling me whenever I got a harvest to just bring it in and as long as there wasn't anything wrong with it I would make money... I just produced some top shelf shit and they farted right in my face
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    Sunbiz1

    Sunbiz1 Well-Known Member

    OK, I have read all this...but cannot even begin to answer until I know what strain/s caused the initial issue?.
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    dabumps

    dabumps Well-Known Member

    Shit sucks man. Move it to NV or Idaho or something. If it's Illegal you will get strait retail prices for top shelf. I was sellin for 1200 a QP Where I was last located. What's even better find a state that has a legal system but not despenceries. That way you're better with the law bein on your nuts than in an illegal state but there isn't this HUGE market there. In all reality everywhere people are in the know are a far minority. Just Cali is a really bad place to try and pick it up. I think that Federal is in the 5 year window. I suggest get your shit going in a podunk state and wait with a good business plan or enough cash to buy a little shack on the side of the road. You bet your ass thats what I'm gonna do. Because the green rush is going to sweep east as faster than you could drive west. So get on early and score big. You can bet your ass that I'll have a business licence the day its legal and I'll be selling it out of the back of my truck or something. there is where your money is going to be. Shit just save it. Get it cured and then vac seal it and freeze it and then in 5 years ban your got 500 lbs that you can crank out in less than a month I'm sure. You would be beyond weathy even at that point. Shit if you took out loans for a super legit store you could pay back your loans in the first year. it would strait piss off your bank but fuck them.
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    shmoop

    shmoop Active Member

    LOL, I can already tell I like you.

    Its Abusive OG (the snoop dogg cut) And I went the whole nine on the grow... advanced nutrients - molasses - super thrive... It turned out BOMB.
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    dabumps

    dabumps Well-Known Member

    You're also gettin MORE into the side of the industry where they don't want to tell you all the tricks of the trade. As if growing wasn't enough with their misinformation you can sift through that bullshit but selling it to clubs is a dif story there. There is a whole lot of "fluffing" in the industry.
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    shmoop

    shmoop Active Member

    Sounds smart, I wish I could man...
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    tumorhead

    tumorhead Active Member

    Dude I've only been to a couple dispensaries and they had blueberry nice shit $200/ounce. Then Monday they had some for $175/ounce and $200/ounce. That's in Seattle.

    I don't even smoke bud anymore, strictly hash and kief blended together, get 3 different kinds each week at the dispensary for $15-$20/gram.
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    Sunbiz1

    Sunbiz1 Well-Known Member

    Huh?, bridle thy tongue for a bit.
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    shmoop

    shmoop Active Member

    these places had ounces for over 400 some even like 450... and Ill take the pepsi challenge with their shit any day... I have never tasted any bud as smooth as mine from a cannabis club cuz all those commercial fucks pump the shit out of it till the bitter end... and I do mean BITTER
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    shmoop

    shmoop Active Member

    lol, not to you... that was for the guy who called me a whiny fucktard... sorry if i offended...
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    Sunbiz1

    Sunbiz1 Well-Known Member

    I like being abused, so long as it isn't me!.

    I have no idea where you are located, and hence have not a clue on your local market.

    However, it does not matter where you are b/c colleges are always a good marketing place...check your local listings!
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    Sunbiz1

    Sunbiz1 Well-Known Member

    I would only charge those prices for long flowering sativas, Malawi gold or haze strains that have to run 12-20 weeks flower time.
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    shmoop

    shmoop Active Member

    northern california.... i realize thats a terrible place to try to break into the game... I just feel like if you are able to bust ass and put out a better product than most it shouldnt fucking matter how many competitors you have. you know what I mean? people start new business for shit all the time that the market is saturated with... like new sodas or new chain restaurants or whatever it is... capitalism isnt first come fist serve...

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