mickyjuice
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i said sweet spot a he he he
Smells like hay. HELP!!!
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lol that's what i said! someones holding out on secrets!
riddleme
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yeah all the secrets are in my thread 
it is all about fermintation and proper growing, when you buy into the crap that it is ok for leaves to yellow and die at the end, use bloom foods and boosters with little or no N you end up with an inferior product. The fermintation process requires N to work properly and you can actually start the fermintation process before harvesting while they are still alive and growing. the other problem is the crap about drying takes 7 to 10 days, it should take 3 to 4 weeks, but this info comes from commercial growers in a hurry to make $$$ and most growers (especially new growers) have no patience so everyone buys into it
Ahhh if folks only did a bit of research???
it is all about fermintation and proper growing, when you buy into the crap that it is ok for leaves to yellow and die at the end, use bloom foods and boosters with little or no N you end up with an inferior product. The fermintation process requires N to work properly and you can actually start the fermintation process before harvesting while they are still alive and growing. the other problem is the crap about drying takes 7 to 10 days, it should take 3 to 4 weeks, but this info comes from commercial growers in a hurry to make $$$ and most growers (especially new growers) have no patience so everyone buys into it
Ahhh if folks only did a bit of research???
RemeberMe
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I don't think there is a trick. For it to smell sweet after drying it has to smell super sweet while growing. The last batches (white rhino, purple haze, a few others) have all smelled like hay dried and none of them ever smelled sweet when growing. It's kind of a curse anyway. If they have a lot of smell that can be a huge problem for attracting thieves. If you want it to smell before you sell it squeeze it a bit.
ganjaluvr
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Riddleme, my friend.. I've been saying the same damn thing for I don't even know how long. Good to know that there's at least two of us, you and I, that understand and appreciate the importance of being patient while growing/drying/curing.yeah all the secrets are in my thread
it is all about fermintation and proper growing, when you buy into the crap that it is ok for leaves to yellow and die at the end, use bloom foods and boosters with little or no N you end up with an inferior product. The fermintation process requires N to work properly and you can actually start the fermintation process before harvesting while they are still alive and growing. the other problem is the crap about drying takes 7 to 10 days, it should take 3 to 4 weeks, but this info comes from commercial growers in a hurry to make $$$ and most growers (especially new growers) have no patience so everyone buys into it
Ahhh if folks only did a bit of research???
As for the drying comment though, I kinda have to disagree with you on that. Drying times, are all different and unique in their own way. Not everyone's bud is going to take the same amount of time to dry and or cure. Each environment (temps and humidity) differentiate between every grower.. and the environment that they grow/dry/cure in.
and as for plants leafs yellowing, more and more as the plant gets further into flowering.. the more yellowing your going to see. It's a fact. It's the same thing as when the 'Fall season' comes around.. and we all start seeing all the trees lose their leafs. There's a reason that the trees do this.. they trying to use up any food/water that might be left stored in the plants/trees leafs.. and this is what causes them to turn yellow or as most of us know its called 'Autumn-ing up', which is the process where the tree/plant uses up any trace food/water elements that the plant/tree's leafs have stored inside.. which in return causes the leafs to "Autumn Up".
But yeah, this is called "Autumn(ing) up". Just thought I would share that with ya.
peace.
riddleme
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have to disagree on the yellowing of the leaves, as our indoor gardens are not affected by fall (autumn), it's all about the abuse of high P foods absence of N my friend and should not be that wayRiddleme, my friend.. I've been saying the same damn thing for I don't even know how long. Good to know that there's at least two of us, you and I, that understand and appreciate the importance of being patient while growing/drying/curing.
As for the drying comment though, I kinda have to disagree with you on that. Drying times, are all different and unique in their own way. Not everyone's bud is going to take the same amount of time to dry and or cure. Each environment (temps and humidity) differentiate between every grower.. and the environment that they grow/dry/cure in.
and as for plants leafs yellowing, more and more as the plant gets further into flowering.. the more yellowing your going to see. It's a fact. It's the same thing as when the 'Fall season' comes around.. and we all start seeing all the trees lose their leafs. There's a reason that the trees do this.. they trying to use up any food/water that might be left stored in the plants/trees leafs.. and this is what causes them to turn yellow or as most of us know its called 'Autumn-ing up', which is the process where the tree/plant uses up any trace food/water elements that the plant/tree's leafs have stored inside.. which in return causes the leafs to "Autumn Up".
But yeah, this is called "Autumn(ing) up". Just thought I would share that with ya.
peace.
drewabu
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have to disagree on the yellowing of the leaves, as our indoor gardens are not affected by fall (autumn), it's all about the abuse of high P foods absence of N my friend and should not be that way"
Your telling me your plants leaves dont get yellow at the end of flowering? Brother I dont care about your 4,500+ posts, that is ether the biggest fish story ever told, or you are the grandmaster wizard of Mj growers. And I dont care about your chalkboard science even if your a botanist, telling people there leaves should not ever turn yellow and die is insane and your just scaring noobs.
Your telling me your plants leaves dont get yellow at the end of flowering? Brother I dont care about your 4,500+ posts, that is ether the biggest fish story ever told, or you are the grandmaster wizard of Mj growers. And I dont care about your chalkboard science even if your a botanist, telling people there leaves should not ever turn yellow and die is insane and your just scaring noobs.
Murfy
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there are always exceptions-
riddle you saw the way my plants turned. yellow and purple. you and i run basically the same setup, as far as nutes and feeding/watering{rain}. i am sure i feed them enough.
it's gotta be genetics. the plant has to know how far from ripe it is. would it start to redirect where it gets things from? i am still learning also, but don't tomatoes keep making fruit as long as they can stay alive? it's the cold weather that kills them. i ahve never heard of anyone doing a successful long term perpetual harvest with a marijuana plant. riddle what do you think about this?
oh......... the hay smell. drying to fast will give hay smell that lingers. most times i see rubbermaids with hella fans on em. i run an armoire, with passive vents on the bottom, and a computer fan out the top. it could hold what would dry into two pounds, so a fair amount. if it smokes in a joint put it in the jars/tubs. for at least three weeks.
riddle has an interesting theory on the fermentation of the sugars, by drowning the plants at the end. there is some complex botany behind it but it is definitely worth looking in to. i am about a week out from harvest and am gonna try it on a few.
it's in one of his threads in his link,all of which i would consider required reading.
sorry about the thread jack. + rep
riddle you saw the way my plants turned. yellow and purple. you and i run basically the same setup, as far as nutes and feeding/watering{rain}. i am sure i feed them enough.
it's gotta be genetics. the plant has to know how far from ripe it is. would it start to redirect where it gets things from? i am still learning also, but don't tomatoes keep making fruit as long as they can stay alive? it's the cold weather that kills them. i ahve never heard of anyone doing a successful long term perpetual harvest with a marijuana plant. riddle what do you think about this?
oh......... the hay smell. drying to fast will give hay smell that lingers. most times i see rubbermaids with hella fans on em. i run an armoire, with passive vents on the bottom, and a computer fan out the top. it could hold what would dry into two pounds, so a fair amount. if it smokes in a joint put it in the jars/tubs. for at least three weeks.
riddle has an interesting theory on the fermentation of the sugars, by drowning the plants at the end. there is some complex botany behind it but it is definitely worth looking in to. i am about a week out from harvest and am gonna try it on a few.
it's in one of his threads in his link,all of which i would consider required reading.
sorry about the thread jack. + rep
riddleme
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ROTFLMAO,,,,thank you for that,,,I guess you have never read my threads all the noobs that I TEACH are growing dank
and yes my leaves stay green and I grow one hitta quitta's
have yet to scare a noob off and you should look into it my friend cause you are obviously lost in the myths and folklore
leaves/plants should be kept healthy, you would be amazed at how that increases quality and yield
drewabu
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and yes my leaves stay green and I grow one hitta quitta's "
LOL, bro I love that you helps noobs, thats the only reason Im here too. And please believe I meant no disrespect, I left open the option that you could be a Grand Master MJ grower. But I think 85% of small time growers like myself( check out my albums) will experence yellowing leaves and its nothing to panic about.
LOL, bro I love that you helps noobs, thats the only reason Im here too. And please believe I meant no disrespect, I left open the option that you could be a Grand Master MJ grower. But I think 85% of small time growers like myself( check out my albums) will experence yellowing leaves and its nothing to panic about.
riddleme
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completely normal for a plant to be done with a leave or two and drop them, but the mis-use of high P bloom foods and the associated folklore is what causes it, there is no autumn indoors, conditions should be fall like but kept perfect the plants should thrive not die, growing them any other way is wrong IMO
Murfy
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well then-
got linked back here. these pics are a few days old but they'll do. this strain i have now turns yellow. it doesn't look damaged or unhealthy at all. more like a purple maple, in october.
riddle, i do respect your opinion. our styles are very similar, from lights to nutes. i make it rain. i would like your HONEST opinion.
the bud sites are green and lush, and the leaves turning yellow aren't dropping. more like drying on the plant. and staying yellow.
got linked back here. these pics are a few days old but they'll do. this strain i have now turns yellow. it doesn't look damaged or unhealthy at all. more like a purple maple, in october.
riddle, i do respect your opinion. our styles are very similar, from lights to nutes. i make it rain. i would like your HONEST opinion.
the bud sites are green and lush, and the leaves turning yellow aren't dropping. more like drying on the plant. and staying yellow.
riddleme
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must admit I have not seen that before, are they all the same strain? they look like they are outside in october and dying to me in the group shots but the lush green buds are a trip, very interesting!
Polecat
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Just harvested a plant that looked like that. The buds were still good but the sugar leaf started yellowing before she was ripe.
My problems came from a high ph in my soiless medium or to much peat compaction to finish or both.
Thats way more then a couple leaves. Something is not quite right or maybe not. I defer to riddle me.