Small time farmer here, good choice?

AutoNorCal

AutoNorCal

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Okay so I know amazon has cheap and crappy leds which should be avoided like incurable VD!

That being said I have read great things about timber, rapidled and few other brands.

I’m not afraid of dyi kits

This is what I’m looking at https://www.rapidled.com/bridgelux-vero29se-100w-led-grow-kit/

These veros say there gen 7 topbin it was either that or cbx3590

Either way I was thinking 3000k cri80 since these are for autos

I’m a small time grower with one year of growing under my belt now but I’m using 400w hps which is killing me heat wise so it’s time to put on my big boy pants and step up to cobs which I should have done from the start but live and learn

My grows are just for my personal jollies you know blunts, bongs hits and vaping. Also killer edibles.

I only grow two to three plants at a time so I dont need something powerful, just reliable and cool.

Anyways please comment there’s nothing like a second or third opinion on this kit.
 
Joint Monster

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RapidLed is great imo.

If you are capable what I would do is, build your own frame with diy materials from a local hardware store for half the price or less. Put the money saved into more cobs. RapidLed has cob kids which is the same thing as what you're looking at, minus the black powder coated frame and rollers.

You have to pay a little more upfront if you plan to save over-time. That is the cost of going LED. But what you're looking at might not be comparable to a 400HPS as mentioned above.

Quantum Boards look very interesting but I don't know much about them. There is someone on here.... "Cob Kits"(if I remember the name correcting), I read a post.... they said they are more or less similar to Cobs. Maybe they can chime in if they're still around.
 
AutoNorCal

AutoNorCal

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Humple said:
What size is your grow space? You won't be able to replace 400w of HPS with 100w of LED. I think you should be shooting for at least 250w. What is your total budget?
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I have a 3x3 tent but it’s never full the canopy typically is about 2x2 to 2.5x2.5

I have always understood that 75% of the wattage of mh/hps is heat which should make the light wattage to be 100w right?

$250 at the most I know that’s not much at all

But again I’m small time I have a grow journal on this site form last year if you want to see what I’m talking about. Thank you for your input I really appreciate it.
 
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AutoNorCal said:
Okay so I know amazon has cheap and crappy leds which should be avoided like incurable VD!

That being said I have read great things about timber, rapidled and few other brands.

I’m not afraid of dyi kits

This is what I’m looking at https://www.rapidled.com/bridgelux-vero29se-100w-led-grow-kit/

These veros say there gen 7 topbin it was either that or cbx3590

Either way I was thinking 3000k cri80 since these are for autos

I’m a small time grower with one year of growing under my belt now but I’m using 400w hps which is killing me heat wise so it’s time to put on my big boy pants and step up to cobs which I should have done from the start but live and learn

My grows are just for my personal jollies you know blunts, bongs hits and vaping. Also killer edibles.

I only grow two to three plants at a time so I dont need something powerful, just reliable and cool.

Anyways please comment there’s nothing like a second or third opinion on this kit.
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Try building a frame and using cxm22 cobs from cobkits......check out @CobKits
 
AutoNorCal

AutoNorCal

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Joint Monster said:
RapidLed is great imo.

If you are capable what I would do is, build your own frame with diy materials from a local hardware store for half the price or less. Put the money saved into more cobs. RapidLed has cob kids which is the same thing as what you're looking at, minus the black powder coated frame and rollers.

You have to pay a little more upfront if you plan to save over-time. That is the cost of going LED. But what you're looking at might not be comparable to a 400HPS as mentioned above.

Quantum Boards look very interesting but I don't know much about them. There is someone on here.... "Cob Kits"(if I remember the name correcting), I read a post.... they said they are more or less similar to Cobs. Maybe they can chime in if they're still around.
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I am really good will shop tools band saws mills and such, but I dont have tools like that. Nor do I have access to such tools, though I once did.

understood

its looks like the quantum boards are have lots of little cobs I worry if one light goes out you might have to replace the board but i dont know that
yes cob kits is the name and they are active but going to the site as far as I can tell its a parts site and as of this moment i see i have a great deal more to learn
 
GBAUTO

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Building a frame from supplies from Home Depot, the only tools needed were a hacksaw and a drill/bits. If you're able to operate a screwdriver without a trip to a level 1 trauma unit this shouldn't be much of a challenge. The strips or boards offer a really economical way to build a killer rig-just do it.
 
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1212ham

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For strips or boards it can be as simple as a square frame of aluminum angle and a 1/4" bolt at each corner to hold it together. For cobs you would probably add a few more pieces of angle to mount them.

Most people like 30-40 watts per square foot for flower and dim down during veg.

Edit: With Bridgelux EB strips, 250W or 320w could be done for $250.
 
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nfhiggs

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GBAUTO said:
Building a frame from supplies from Home Depot, the only tools needed were a hacksaw and a drill/bits. If you're able to operate a screwdriver without a trip to a level 1 trauma unit this shouldn't be much of a challenge. The strips or boards offer a really economical way to build a killer rig-just do it.
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Hell, I didn't even bother with that - I assembled my strip frame with RTV adhesive
 
ANC

ANC

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I'm in the strip school myself.
My last run was with 48 80W COBS, I am replacing those with 100W Samsung F strips, I already have 10.
 
Joint Monster

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AutoNorCal said:
I am really good will shop tools band saws mills and such, but I dont have tools like that. Nor do I have access to such tools, though I once did.
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Where there's a Will, there's a Way! Home Depot is great, but will over-charge you for Raw Materials. If you can find a Welding/Metals shop, they will have the same metal for a fraction of the price! They may also be willing to cut the metal pieces for you to what sizes you need, for FREE, or for a price. :P

Then all you need is a $40 drill and a drill bit that goes through metal (~$10). A few joints and some arm strength! You'll save more than $50 going to a metal shop versus Home Depot.
 
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1212ham

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nfhiggs said:
Hell, I didn't even bother with that - I assembled my strip frame with RTV adhesive
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That's just to easy, LOL.
Yup, silicone has surprising bonding strength with enough area! A little JB weld would also get it done. Or better yet, Devcon 10710 or 10610.
 
nfhiggs

nfhiggs

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1212ham said:
That's just to easy, LOL.
Yup, silicone has surprising bonding strength with enough area! A little JB weld would also get it done. Or better yet, Devcon 10710 or 10610.
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Yeah, but you do have to use the slow cure stuff - the fast cure RTV has very poor adhesion in comparison.
 
AutoNorCal

AutoNorCal

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Joint Monster said:
Where there's a Will, there's a Way! Home Depot is great, but will over-charge you for Raw Materials. If you can find a Welding/Metals shop, they will have the same metal for a fraction of the price! They may also be willing to cut the metal pieces for you to what sizes you need, for FREE, or for a price. :P

Then all you need is a $40 drill and a drill bit that goes through metal (~$10). A few joints and some arm strength! You'll save more than $50 going to a metal shop versus Home Depot.
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Turns out one of the local hardware shops will do it for free you buy the metal from them which looks pretty cheap
 
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