SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

PDX Joe

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starting to think that doesnt exist Joe, you me and @Humanrob all live here in the soggy northwest,, i mean,, lovely northwest
Ha! And a place that never stops raining... at least this year. I didn't realize Humanrob is from Oregon. It's cool to have fellow Oregonians on here. Are we all Portland? No need to answer if that's a bit too personal.
 

PDX Joe

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You can really hurt yourself with large UV bulbs as well... I think that might be a little further then I am willing to go lol... If i need that good of stuff ill go guerrilla and use the sun... really these large scale SIPs make that a lot more viable since you can control the water content and not have to revisit your spot too often.... i have been contemplating this recently lol
This looks interesting as a way to heat the closet or tent without adding light... ceramic mogul base heater.

https://t.petco.com/shop/en/petcostore/product/zilla-ceramic-heat-emitter-100-watts#
 

Humanrob

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Ha! And a place that never stops raining... at least this year. I didn't realize Humanrob is from Oregon. It's cool to have fellow Oregonians on here. Are we all Portland? No need to answer if that's a bit too personal.
Far northeast corner of Multnomah County, near that wind tunnel know as the Gorge. You find out about who's in our area in the Outdoor section, that's where we go to complain about the weather! LOL

This looks interesting as a way to heat the closet or tent without adding light... ceramic mogul base heater.

https://t.petco.com/shop/en/petcostore/product/zilla-ceramic-heat-emitter-100-watts#
I live in an old house that does not have very consistent heat, and now I'm growing in the garage which is only moderately insulated and has no built in heat. I like the idea of using CFLs, might as well add light if you're going to add heat, but in the spring and fall I only need supplemental heat during certain parts of the day, and I'm not a big fan of lights coming on and off at different times, seems like it could stress the plants.

I don't find the "thermostats" on small portable heaters to be accurate enough, so I got one of those digital plug in thermostat units, it's programmable for night and day and makes the whole thing super convenient.
 

ttystikk

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You all complaining about rain and they are talking a bunch of snow and ice here come monday hahahaha siiigh at least its always summer in the grow room! :blsmoke:
Right there with ya, brother; after two months without snow, it's been freezing cold with sleet and snow for the last 2 days. Even more aggravating? It's not even enough for good moisture.
 

Tim Fox

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You all complaining about rain and they are talking a bunch of snow and ice here come monday hahahaha siiigh at least its always summer in the grow room! :blsmoke:
Right there with ya, brother; after two months without snow, it's been freezing cold with sleet and snow for the last 2 days. Even more aggravating? It's not even enough for good moisture.
We just set a 75 year record for the most days with rain this winter/spring,, UGH,,, i just point my head down and trudge onward
 

Humanrob

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It's been a pretty bad winter across the country this year. I'm over it. I think the vegetable garden will be a month late this year.
We put a bunch of vegi starts out the other day, they got pelted with hail... oooops. So, we already started the vegi garden, for better or worse. My outdoor summer cannabis has sprouted in my 3x3 tent and will go outside the third week in May, otherwise they'd get root bound in the 1 gallon pots I have them in. They should be decently established by then, hopefully they can take whatever weather we're having at that point.

Hey, speaking of SIPs, I might try a couple of autos in SIPs outside this summer, I have a bunch left over from last year. The rest of my SIPs are getting tomatoes. I found that outside, nothing beats the putting them right into the ground. Hey, I guess that is one good thing about where I live, there is decent soil here, tons of worms!!! (and we've amended the heck out of it).
 

PDX Joe

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Far northeast corner of Multnomah County, near that wind tunnel know as the Gorge. You find out about who's in our area in the Outdoor section, that's where we go to complain about the weather! LOL


I live in an old house that does not have very consistent heat, and now I'm growing in the garage which is only moderately insulated and has no built in heat. I like the idea of using CFLs, might as well add light if you're going to add heat, but in the spring and fall I only need supplemental heat during certain parts of the day, and I'm not a big fan of lights coming on and off at different times, seems like it could stress the plants.

I don't find the "thermostats" on small portable heaters to be accurate enough, so I got one of those digital plug in thermostat units, it's programmable for night and day and makes the whole thing super convenient.
I'm very familiar with the Gorge. I'm out there about once a month in Mosier. Although, in Mosier there is a bit more sun.
 

PDX Joe

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I'm clearly seeing two different phenos from the same seeds. One has a bit more stretch and lighter green leaves. They're stacking now. At some point I will add a bit more nutrients to the top of the SIPs. They're in week 3. I'm thinking I might amend at the end of this week and they should be good until the end. The plants are starting to lift the SCROG net legs off the ground. I'll need to come up with a way to fasten the net down next time.IMG_0217.JPG
 

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ttystikk

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I'm clearly seeing two different phenos from the same seeds. One has a bit more stretch and lighter green leaves. They're stacking now. At some point I will add a bit more nutrients to the top of the SIPs. They're in week 3. I'm thinking I might amend at the end of this week and they should be good until the end. The plants are starting to lift the SCROG net legs off the ground. I'll need to come up with a way to fasten the net down next time.View attachment 3936706
The point of the SCRoG screen is to support the buds. If they're standing up together while lifting the screen off the ground, that's great!
 

Tim Fox

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I'm clearly seeing two different phenos from the same seeds. One has a bit more stretch and lighter green leaves. They're stacking now. At some point I will add a bit more nutrients to the top of the SIPs. They're in week 3. I'm thinking I might amend at the end of this week and they should be good until the end. The plants are starting to lift the SCROG net legs off the ground. I'll need to come up with a way to fasten the net down next time.View attachment 3936706
After doing scrog legs a few times i switched to hanging the screen with light weight chain easy to set and adjust screen height
 

Tim Fox

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I'm clearly seeing two different phenos from the same seeds. One has a bit more stretch and lighter green leaves. They're stacking now. At some point I will add a bit more nutrients to the top of the SIPs. They're in week 3. I'm thinking I might amend at the end of this week and they should be good until the end. The plants are starting to lift the SCROG net legs off the ground. I'll need to come up with a way to fasten the net down next time.View attachment 3936706
Oh and killer looking plants
 

STPM

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I use cedar for my screens and also diatomaceous earth! Its all natural and gets in the bugs exoskeletons and dehydrates them, great stuff! and yes wow SIPs grow some monster plants! or should i say bushes at this point lol i could probably give these things to the knights who say Ni and they would say its an acceptable shrubbery! (sorry my nerd was showing there for a min :bigjoint:)
You can get food grade diatomaceous earth real cheap. I put 1/2 tbs in a gallon of spring water to drink it as it is the best source of silica, which promotes healthy bones. It makes your hair and nails grow quicker. One site recommended it as a silica supplement for plants that grow under LEC lights (since they are supposed to grow quick under said lights), as it helps in cell generation. Since SIPs promote growth as well you guys may benefit from adding some in your res water.

I say in your res water because the body at least does not absorb silicon dioxide itself but it reacts with water to produce orthosilicic acid slowly over time. The stomach acid helps to convert it, but overall silicon is poorly absorbed in the body. If the same is true in plants having it slowly being dissolved in the water would be most effective.

And yes per the OP, people sprinkle it across their doorways to keep pests out. It is supposed to be good for bedbugs. One can sprinkle it one one's plants to keep bugs off, but not on a flowering plant outside so as to be careful to not hurt the bees.
 

STPM

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I read through this entire thread which I learned a lot from. Has anyone tried that sopping wet soil routine with an air bubbler referenced by Tim Fox at the beginning? I don't think it would work with SIPs since they couldn't wick that much up to make it that sopping? Just wondering.

Air injecting Sips,,, Yup it works, I am going to order a Fusion fish tank pump for 8 bucks delered on Ebay to go with my earthbox
 
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