Silk Road / Ross Ulbricht trial

Observe & Report

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Anyone following this? There is good coverage on Wired and Ars Technica. The guy is totally boned. The pigs grabbed him while his laptop was open to the administrative panel for the site, titled "Mastermind." Too bad the trial isn't televised, then we could take bets on how many times the prosecutor says "mastermind" during his closing statement.

One of the things I find remarkable is the feds found also found his journal and hundreds of thousands of bitcoins on his laptop which they subsequently sold. That says to me he didn't have his wallet or journal encrypted separately from overall disk/dir protection.
 

heckler73

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I know next to nothing about this case (except hearing about Silk Road getting shut down).
If you observe anything develop, I'd be most interested to hear your report.


Did ya catch that?

I think I made a pun, or something.

Seriously, this case is already sounding like a Hollywood blockbuster just based on your two paragraphs :lol:
Except it needs more explosions...and a street-racing scene.
 

Observe & Report

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one of my favorite parts, and this was in the complaints and hasn't been offered at trial yet so it could be total B.S., is Ulbricht was approached by an undercover agent who said "i don't want to deal with penny ante chumps on this site, I want to move a key of coke, can you help me?" and Ulbricht arranged a deal with one of his underlings who helped administer the site. The underling had the coke shipped to his own house which turned out to be a "controlled delivery" with a free orange jumpsuit. So when Ulbricht finds out it was a bust, does he suspect the guy who arranged the whole thing? Nope, he goes back to the undercover agent and says "my guy got busted, we have to kill him before he talks" lol!! he sends $60,000 worth of bitcoin to the FBI for a "hit."
 

FranJan

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Good grief...it just gets better. I won't be surprised Finshaggy somehow winds up caught in the middle of all this.
Could life get any more perfect than that? "Special witness for the defense FinShaggy". That's got the sound of hostile witness, contempt and mistrial written all over it. The Finshaggy trifecta!

Isn't Ross U trying to confuse the prosecutor by saying he's not the Pirate Roberts and they can't prove it ? And if that doesn't work he can always use the argument that he was here first or whoever smelt it.......

http://www.opb.org/news/article/pri-the-world-will-the-real-dread-pirate-roberts-please-stand-up/

"But how strong is the evidence that Ross Ulbricht is Dread Pirate Roberts? Now defense attorneys according to Greenfield are saying that Ross Ulbricht did in fact create the Silk Road “but after just a couple of months handed it off to the Dread Pirate Roberts who is someone else, and that the Dread Pirate Roberts controlled the site, grew it into this massive drug empire, then when the Dread Pirate Roberts sensed that law enforcement was closing in, they tricked Ross Ulbricht into being the fall guy, they lured him back in and framed him.”

 

Observe & Report

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Isn't Ross U trying to confuse the prosecutor by saying he's not the Pirate Roberts and they can't prove it ?
No, he couldn't care less what the prosecutor thinks, he's trying to confuse the jury. He's trying to create some reason to doubt the evidence says what it says.

Similar defense to Hans Reiser, who tried to suggest that it was his weirdo crossdressing friend that might have killed his wife. Certainly it wasn't the guy who was seen hosing down his driveway, who ripped the passenger seat and all the carpet out of his car and hosed down the inside, who showed up to pick up his kids from school on the wrong day exhausted because he knew his wife wouldn't be there to pick them up after burying her all weekend, etc...

As Donald Rumsfeld said, you make lemonade with the lemons you've have, not the lemons you might want or wish to have at a later time. or something like that.
 

Mr. Bongwater

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One guy got life imprisonment without parole in the states for selling large quantities of weed, one guy got busted for that here in canada and just got slapped with 1 year probation and a ton of fines pretty sure lol

The states got a fucked up legal system thats for sure
 

King Arthur

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One guy got life imprisonment without parole in the states for selling large quantities of weed, one guy got busted for that here in canada and just got slapped with 1 year probation and a ton of fines pretty sure lol

The states got a fucked up legal system thats for sure
The states don't like competition, the worst part is in medical states the people running the operations are ones with money not neccessarily the best ones for the job, half of them don't give two shits from a fuck about your health they want that cash and they will say anything to get it.

Even going as far to promote themselves as an entity that helps the community, but only just enough to let them say that and nothing more.

Fuckin crazy people getting life in prison over setting up a website for others to fuck around on.
 

Fluff Up

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Fuckin crazy people getting life in prison over setting up a website for others to fuck around on.
He didn't go down for setting up a website, he went down for profiting from millions of dollars of drug sales which is undeniably illegal, if he had setup an anonymous trading platform (as he did) and sold that to people who could operate it as they wished it would be a different case.
Also the operation security was pitiful, from going to the exact same spot to connect to the site to keeping a journal (WTF is he 9 year old girl now?)
There are other darkweb sites doing the same thing but haven't gone done probably to better OpSec
 
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