Signs of pre-flower???????Help???

Discussion in 'General Marijuana Growing' started by SmokeDr420, Nov 12, 2008.

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    SmokeDr420

    SmokeDr420 Well-Known Member

    Now i know you really can't tell the sex of a plant until flowering(or taking a clone then flowering) but i have a topped plant that is finishing its second super crop.....The pistols are dying(and turning orange) but it is still in its veg cycle?? Also the lighting schedule has not been changed in any way because i have it on a timer. Now this is about a three and a half month old plant, with a 150 hps light...temps between 75-80 and humidity is between 40-55..........Sorry but i have no pics right now but can anyone help me please?!?!?!??


    Much appreciated....
    SmokeDr420bongsmilie
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    jimmy44

    jimmy44 Well-Known Member

    It is normal during the pre-flower stage of growth for the one or two pistles that appear at each internode to die off. As long as the rest of the plant looks healthy there is nothing to worry about. Flowering soon?
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    SmokeDr420

    SmokeDr420 Well-Known Member

    absolutely...its a kush strain and it looks awesome...its my 2nd grow...so i can't wait to get some real budda hahaha but thanks man....much appreciated
    SmokeDr420
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    born2killspam

    born2killspam Well-Known Member

    I can't argue with what jimmy said at all, but it could also indicate the slightest deficiency of potassium, magnesium, boron or copper.. And I do mean slightest! Absolutely ignorable unless more observable symptoms emmerge with your current feeding regimen..
    It could also be early sign of nute burn or toxic salt buildup, remember plants usually appear to thrive for a while before succumbing to over-fertilization.. It could even be minorly root bound..
    Describe your growing method a little bit more if you need help guessing at possibilities, but in general just be vigilant like you have been, and if thats all you see in the next little while then you're good to go as Jimmy said..
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    SmokeDr420

    SmokeDr420 Well-Known Member

    ya actually it is rootbound without a doubt(not rediculously, but enough) but i have decided to wait for the plant to finish its super crop before transplanting for minimum stress on the plant and i had to check all options b4 coming to a quick conclusion...but i will transplant and check it out in a few days and get back to ya....

    Thanks much
    SmokeDr420
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    born2killspam

    born2killspam Well-Known Member

    Don't expect them to repair themselves, but hopefully nothing else starts to dwindle..
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    SmokeDr420

    SmokeDr420 Well-Known Member

    ya the two most bottom branches are taking much longer to repair themselves than the rest of the plant......so i think i'm gonna put some posts to raise it a bit and help it get past the 90 degrees they're at...they are not dying in any way but they're being slow as of right now...do you think i can transplant even thouogh the bottom two branches aren't recovered completely????or will it hurt the plant?????
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    born2killspam

    born2killspam Well-Known Member

    Cannabis is a weed dude.. You can do it.. Only in flowering do you really even need to consider your plant's comfort in that respect..
    You can minimize transplant shock by gently knocking loose soil off the rootball and thoroughly mixing it with soil in the new pot near the edge of transition from old soil to new soil.. Just don't be too extreme obviously..
    Also if you've been root-bound, root pruning may help the plant thrive in its new pot.. Its a good skill to have under your belt in general.. When are you hoping to flip to 12/12?
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    SmokeDr420

    SmokeDr420 Well-Known Member

    awesome man, thats good news for me and actually in the next few weeks i was gonna start flowering.....i wanted to get everything just right before going into 12/12.....But i appreciate your help a lot and if you know anything about cloning that you could help me with i'd appreciate it


    Thanks Bro......

    SmokeDr420
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    born2killspam

    born2killspam Well-Known Member

    Cloning is simpler than most ppl make it out to be.. A Tiny bit of heat from the underside is good (don't cook them!).. Its actually the medium temperature that you want around 80° or so, the air temp can be a bit lower which helps keep the RH up.. I usually don't seal the dome right up, I spray them a few times a day, if its humid enough you should only need to dunk them in water a few times I find, but don't let them get too light until you're positive they are growing roots..
    An exacto-knife is ideal to make the 45° cut.. Slice it don't chop it! Rooting gel is good, but not critical.. It probably helps most by sealing the stem immediately away from air, but I would say that you get better growth for the $5 investment..
    Open up the hole in your cube/pellet a bit with a toothpick to get the clone in cleaner, then gently squeeze it to ensure good contact..
    Temperature stability is good, so I keep them on 24/7 until ready to plant..
    If you have big floppy leaves on it, its probably best to trim them down in size but leave the ends of the lobes and a bit of green..
    A good sign is yellowing obviously caused by cannibalism.. When that happens you can be pretty sure that roots are growing.. Browning without yellowing is not so good..
    Some plants are easier to clone than others, but most aren't tough at all.. A safe bet would be to expect 70% success rate I think, but don't be surprised if you get closer to 100%..
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    SmokeDr420

    SmokeDr420 Well-Known Member

    thats the general idea i had but you absolutely nailed the specifics for me. o ya and I'm going to try to again and see if i can be successful with the gel instead of the powder this time......and surprisingly i have mostly what i need to do it besides for the heat pad..............but ya i appreciate all your help and i really hope for good things with these baby's..........Thanks again


    SmokeDr420:weed:

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