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Afgan King

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See you say they named it for that I always was told it mean two bags per light seeing as I use 7 gallon pots and it's 2 bags per 4 pots and run 4 per light. Either way it's the best coco or coco mix u could run shit slays
 

coreywebster

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Does anyone have a tupur vs canna coco (or whatever coco) side by side with pics to show? Im curious about the difference in an apples to apples comparison. Thanks
Il do one if you pay shipping costs! I wanted to use it but its not available in my part of the world, sure I could get it delivered from the good old US of A but it prices me out when shipping is as much as the product. Maybe one day when I'm feeling extra flush...
 

Aeroknow

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Does anyone have a tupur vs canna coco (or whatever coco) side by side with pics to show? Im curious about the difference in an apples to apples comparison. Thanks
I think a better comparison would be Rg's coco fiber(red bag) vs, canna coco. Then add or don't add the same amendments.

When Canna first came out with their coco, I jumped on that shit hella quick. Loved it immediately way better than what I was using before it, bcuzz. I've also recently used royal golds coco fiber(Red bag), and added my usual 1/3 part perlite, and I liked it. If I had a choice between the two bags in front of me, it would be a hella easy decision. Royal gold is cheaper in price around here. But i choose tupur, because for the most part i'm not down with mixing in the perlite anymore. I aint got time for that shit.
 

since1991

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I always liked Botanicare Readygro Moisture Formula. Its got a light charge of goodies (actually a bunch of stuff like castings...compost starter..mycos...dry humics...added perlite and that small silica rock they use). Used that for a long time until i switched to Canna brick coco. The Canna is 4 10 liter bricks for like 12 bucks. The loose bag coco like Readygro and Cannas bags are 50 liters for 20 to 25 bucks in stores aroud here. I did like Readygros charged especially for new starts. But after plants get established and in the groove...all the coco coir brands act the same for me.
 

guerrilla medic

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The stuff i've been using seems like its the same type of thing. Botanicare readygro aeration. It comes amended with perlite and a couple other things. Once the roots are developed you can hit em several times a cycle if you want.
 

Aeroknow

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I always liked Botanicare Readygro Moisture Formula. Its got a light charge of goodies (actually a bunch of stuff like castings...compost starter..mycos...dry humics...added perlite and that small silica rock they use). Used that for a long time until i switched to Canna brick coco. The Canna is 4 10 liter bricks for like 12 bucks. The loose bag coco like Readygro and Cannas bags are 50 liters for 20 to 25 bucks in stores aroud here. I did like Readygros charged especially for new starts. But after plants get established and in the groove...all the coco coir brands act the same for me.
Bag of tupur is 14-15 bucks around here. Hard to beat. Even cheaper by the pallet of course:-)
Same stores sell b'cuzz for $20. The stores that are canna dealers in norcal sell the coco for $20. Easy choice for me :-)
 

Aeroknow

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I always liked Botanicare Readygro Moisture Formula. Its got a light charge of goodies (actually a bunch of stuff like castings...compost starter..mycos...dry humics...added perlite and that small silica rock they use). Used that for a long time until i switched to Canna brick coco. The Canna is 4 10 liter bricks for like 12 bucks. The loose bag coco like Readygro and Cannas bags are 50 liters for 20 to 25 bucks in stores aroud here. I did like Readygros charged especially for new starts. But after plants get established and in the groove...all the coco coir brands act the same for me.
Have you tried vermisoil yet bro? I've been using that in some of my setups. Love that stuff too. Works killer in larger pots
 

since1991

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The stuff i've been using seems like its the same type of thing. Botanicare readygro aeration. It comes amended with perlite and a couple other things. Once the roots are developed you can hit em several times a cycle if you want.
The only real difference between the moisture and aeration formulas is the amount of perlite and silica rocks (hydrolite??). Moisture has a 75 -25 % ratio of coco to perlite. The aeration i believe is a 60-40. Its good stuff. Been using Canna brick lately Its cheaper. Easy as hell to rehydrate. Warm.... charged to 180 ppm with calmag+ tap (dropped to 6.0 pH) tap water through the brick holes gets it done. Right in the bag it comes in. I dont know...always switching up coco coir brands at the stores. Not really a huge difference once they are jamming.
 

Aeroknow

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No i have heard of it though. What is in it?
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It's really not that hot either. Not at all. Why I like it. Loaded with goodies(of course coco also), but i can, but don't have to, feed right away.
Vermifire is their hot soil. That shit works killer outdoor let me tell ya;-) takes the plants pretty far in veg.

As I'm currently switching most of my setups back to hydro, i'm still keeping mommas in vermisoil. Love it
 

ttystikk

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Yeah @guerrilla medic and @ttystikk ,I looked into it after looking at @Afgan King 's grows, the Tupur has added forest compost where normal coco doesn't. Also Tupur has perlite pre added and some crushed base salts according to the label. Means you can water it more often if I understand correctly

Nice colas guerrilla Medic. frosty and fat.. jeeez!
I don't know about any nutrients in it, as I still water with my complete hydronic formula. The buffering the substrate provides is clearly evident when inspecting the plants; through veg, they're healthier, more vigorous and growing faster than ever before!
 

coreywebster

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I don't know about any nutrients in it, as I still water with my complete hydronic formula. The buffering the substrate provides is clearly evident when inspecting the plants; through veg, they're healthier, more vigorous and growing faster than ever before!
I was wrong about the base salts, as daft as this is going to make me look, I misread a label that I had zoomed in, it said "Basalt"
which is a crushed igneous rock!! I did think it was odd to put salts in something that is described as a blank slate. bongsmilie
 

since1991

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Anyone use them Sunshine coco/peat blends? Back in the day...way before coco coir...Promix and Sunshine #4 on a drip in 5 gallon buckets was my go to method. That and rockwool slabs on a drip. I used to by a shitload of rockwool slabs and bales of peat mixes back then.
 

Aeroknow

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Anyone use them Sunshine coco/peat blends? Back in the day...way before coco coir...Promix and Sunshine #4 on a drip in 5 gallon buckets was my go to method. That and rockwool slabs on a drip. I used to by a shitload of rockwool slabs and bales of peat mixes back then.
I tried the sunshine advanced right when it came out too. It was good. Don't see much of it in the stores anymore though.
I'm with you dude. Besides the tubes i grew in in the 90's it was peat based dirt in pots also, but hand watered. Promix and sunshine. Coco came out and changed my world. But I still do mess around with peat based. It all works if yiu ask me lol. But i prefer my peat mix to have coco in it nowadays :-D
Black gold waterhold is pretty good if you add perlite. But fuck that shit lol
 

Aeroknow

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Anyone use them Sunshine coco/peat blends? Back in the day...way before coco coir...Promix and Sunshine #4 on a drip in 5 gallon buckets was my go to method. That and rockwool slabs on a drip. I used to by a shitload of rockwool slabs and bales of peat mixes back then.
Oh and here's the actual label on that vermisoil. I forgot i had a bag right here
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Oh yeah, and I forgot to say it has a lil nute charge ;-)
 

since1991

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I tried the sunshine advanced right when it came out too. It was good. Don't see much of it in the stores anymore though.
I'm with you dude. Besides the tubes i grew in in the 90's it was peat based dirt in pots also, but hand watered. Promix and sunshine. Coco came out and changed my world. But I still do mess around with peat based. It all works if yiu ask me lol. But i prefer my peat mix to have coco in it nowadays :-D
Black gold waterhold is pretty good if you add perlite. But fuck that shit lol
Yep. Coco coir was a game changer for me. Epsecially when they started processing coco coir the correct way and not loaded with salt. The early stuff back in early 2000's gave me big problems. No batch was consistent and i thought it was me. But yeah. I got rid of the rockwool and peat mix grows a long time ago once i figured out coco. I still use a peat mix when starting rare and expensive seeds once in awhile. But once they get going...in a pot of coir they go. To me nothing beats a good peat/perlite/castings/vermiculite blend for getting seeds off to the races. Oh...btw...homemade rain gutter NFT systems were really popular back in the nineties too. Using 3 and 4 inch rockwool block plopped in them. I used to crush it with them setups. Net trellis was mandatory for my bigger plant NFT grows. Good times. Big parabolic hoods...and damn near as big squirrel cage exhaust blowers were the order of the day. And co2 on a timer wondering why we didnt see any gains with it...lol. But we bought tanks anyways.
 
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