Should republicans be allowed to vote?

UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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considering that the cornerstone of our constitutional republic and worthiness of our democratically elected representatives is a well-informed electorate, should people who think that trickle down works or that forest fires cause global cooling even be allowed to vote?

i think it undermines our republic to allow such stupidity to have a say in the running of the nation, what say you?
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I think the First Amendment provides the touchstone - this is the ultimate expression of free speech. "I find what you say repugnant, and yet will defend to the death your right to say it." To me this is part of the backbone of the republic.
 
echelon1k1

echelon1k1

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cannabineer said:
I think the First Amendment provides the touchstone - this is the ultimate expression of free speech. "I find what you say repugnant, and yet will defend to the death your right to say it." To me this is part of the backbone of the republic.
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Except when Obama and Hilldogz claim it was a youtube video...
 
desert dude

desert dude

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UncleBuck said:
considering that the cornerstone of our constitutional republic and worthiness of our democratically elected representatives is a well-informed electorate, should people who think that trickle down works or that forest fires cause global cooling even be allowed to vote?

i think it undermines our republic to allow such stupidity to have a say in the running of the nation, what say you?
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We should just round up all the Republicans, ship them to Guam, then let them drown when it tips over. :-)
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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There's no point for democracy when ignorance is celebrated
Political scientists get the same one vote as some Arkansas inbred
Majority rule, don't work in mental institutions
Sometimes the smallest softest voice carries the grand biggest solutions
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Pretty much sums it up, IMO.
 
canndo

canndo

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Soviet343 said:
I'm a republican and a conservative and I'm all for the legalization of Marijuana.
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That is the problem with repubican and conservative. They have no understanding of the concept of "other". Cheney was against gay rights until he found his daughter was gay. There are stories of conservatives being against pot until their daughter got cancer. Nancy Reagan was against stem cell research until her husband might have been helped by it. In your case, you are only for leglaized pot because you smoke it. I will wager, in every other category where the issue does not directly affect you, you will take the side lease compassionate. that is the way conservatives are built. If it isn't happening to me, it isn't a problem at all. And tough, if it is happening to someone else.

I wonder how the republicans who are out of work and watchng congressional republicans dicker with extending unemployment believe, or are they all still carrying on with the party line?


Oh, I forgot, only Dems are out of work because Dems are lazy and republicans are not, so.... where's the problem?
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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UncleBuck said:
considering that the cornerstone of our constitutional republic and worthiness of our democratically elected representatives is a well-informed electorate, should people who think that trickle down works or that forest fires cause global cooling even be allowed to vote?

i think it undermines our republic to allow such stupidity to have a say in the running of the nation, what say you?
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Cranky this morning arent we? Did your wife forget to change your diaper before work?

All capitalism is trickle down. The fact that the concept escapes you just illustrates who is informed and who is not.

I think you only want to allow the most brainwashed to vote...
 
canndo

canndo

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NLXSK1 said:
Cranky this morning arent we? Did your wife forget to change your diaper before work?

All capitalism is trickle down. The fact that the concept escapes you just illustrates who is informed and who is not.

I think you only want to allow the most brainwashed to vote...
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No it isn't, and it is nuts to even pretend it is. Unless you mean what is happening this very second, where it really is trickle down, not flow down. the majority of all wealth is at the top and the rest..... drips down while we continue to pump more up. In short our assets are shoveled up where we get the crumbs that don't make the hopper at the top. No, the proper model is the horizontal one, not your vertical one. The grocer pays his people and the money has has left goes to his plumber, his grounds keeper and his family, what is left from that goes to his investments that go back to other companies and thus back to other workers - Horizontal, not vertical, and virtually all the money in this scenario is in play. Back when CEO's made 10 or 30 times as much as his average workers, this sort of model was the norm and in turn everyone did well.

In your little world few do well, and eventually even they will faulter. the rich don't need your help, why do you continue to lend it to them?
 
canndo

canndo

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NLXSK1 said:
Cranky this morning arent we? Did your wife forget to change your diaper before work?

All capitalism is trickle down. The fact that the concept escapes you just illustrates who is informed and who is not.

I think you only want to allow the most brainwashed to vote...
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Yeah, that's why most Republican states have the most restrictive voting regulations in the country, because they only want the most brainwashed to be able to vote. Seems to be working actually.

Poll "skew" - bwahahahahaha, repulicans really are tools, brainwashed into believing their own treacle.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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canndo said:
Yeah, that's why most Republican states have the most restrictive voting regulations in the country, because they only want the most brainwashed to be able to vote. Seems to be working actually.

Poll "skew" - bwahahahahaha, repulicans really are tools, brainwashed into believing their own treacle.
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I dont give a shit, I am not a Republican...
 
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Soviet343

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canndo said:
That is the problem with repubican and conservative. They have no understanding of the concept of "other". Cheney was against gay rights until he found his daughter was gay. There are stories of conservatives being against pot until their daughter got cancer. Nancy Reagan was against stem cell research until her husband might have been helped by it. In your case, you are only for leglaized pot because you smoke it. I will wager, in every other category where the issue does not directly affect you, you will take the side lease compassionate. that is the way conservatives are built. If it isn't happening to me, it isn't a problem at all. And tough, if it is happening to someone else.

I wonder how the republicans who are out of work and watchng congressional republicans dicker with extending unemployment believe, or are they all still carrying on with the party line?


Oh, I forgot, only Dems are out of work because Dems are lazy and republicans are not, so.... where's the problem?
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Well that is not entirely true. A true conservative is for limited government, taxes and empowering people to bring themselves out of poverty. I have a few liberal friends and we often lock horns over some social issues. I'm more of a libertarian when it comes to social issues like pot, abortion, etc... I pretty much don't give a shit what people do as long as I don't have to pay for it. Sounds selfish, but take for example the rich assholes that build these million dollar homes on the beach that get wiped out every two years when a hurricane comes and guess who has to pay for it? Us. You don't want the baby you made? Well don't take money out of my paycheck to pay for your abortion, you fuckin do it.

The real problem that I have with liberals is they will more often than not try to tell me what is best for me. Guns are bad, socialism is good, I want an abortion and unlimited unemployment and want you to pay for it etc... And those thing I just can't agree with.

A neat thing happened when the republicans swept the house and senate back in the 90's and forced Clinton into welfare reform. By forcing the reform, people who would normally just expect a government check were then forced to get off of welfare and start contributing back to society, and they did. I just believe in helping others through self-empowerment vs. just handing them a check and keeping them in bondage.

Unlike some, I am not afraid to admit that both sides need to be thrown the fuck out of office and we should start all over with a non-partisan approach. Nothing seems to work anymore when you have two sides pissing and moaning all of the time and only give a shit about their special interests.

Maybe they should all get together, pass around the peace pipe, shut the fuck up and listen for a change.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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canndo said:
By name? No.


It's kinda like saying "I am not a man because I sit down on the toilet to take a pee"
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Is Uncle Buck questioning Republicans ability to vote or simply people who disagree with the Democratic party??

Oh wait, he is just being a trolling dumbass again... nevermind. He is peter pan and you are tinkerbell....
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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NLXSK1 said:
Cranky this morning arent we? Did your wife forget to change your diaper before work?

All capitalism is trickle down. The fact that the concept escapes you just illustrates who is informed and who is not.

I think you only want to allow the most brainwashed to vote...
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Trickle down doesn't work because the rich keep all the money (in spite of the 3 most prosperous decades in history) but digitizing 85B a month and giving it to banks creates jobs!!
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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Another brilliant point was since Mitt Romney only paid around 11% effective rate (zero according to Harry on the Senate floor) so let's raise INCOME tax.
 
canndo

canndo

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Soviet343 said:
Well that is not entirely true. A true conservative is for limited government, taxes and empowering people to bring themselves out of poverty. I have a few liberal friends and we often lock horns over some social issues. I'm more of a libertarian when it comes to social issues like pot, abortion, etc... I pretty much don't give a shit what people do as long as I don't have to pay for it. Sounds selfish, but take for example the rich assholes that build these million dollar homes on the beach that get wiped out every two years when a hurricane comes and guess who has to pay for it? Us. You don't want the baby you made? Well don't take money out of my paycheck to pay for your abortion, you fuckin do it.

The real problem that I have with liberals is they will more often than not try to tell me what is best for me. Guns are bad, socialism is good, I want an abortion and unlimited unemployment and want you to pay for it etc... And those thing I just can't agree with.

A neat thing happened when the republicans swept the house and senate back in the 90's and forced Clinton into welfare reform. By forcing the reform, people who would normally just expect a government check were then forced to get off of welfare and start contributing back to society, and they did. I just believe in helping others through self-empowerment vs. just handing them a check and keeping them in bondage.

Unlike some, I am not afraid to admit that both sides need to be thrown the fuck out of office and we should start all over with a non-partisan approach. Nothing seems to work anymore when you have two sides pissing and moaning all of the time and only give a shit about their special interests.

Maybe they should all get together, pass around the peace pipe, shut the fuck up and listen for a change.
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Just my point "A true conservative is for limited government", except when expansion of government will further his social or political interests. "get off my back, but make abortions illegal", Stay out of my back yard, except when some company wishes to poison my well". What you claim is a grand illusion. you don't want limited government, what you want is government run and manipulated by the people and interests you choose. You say we mandate by government fiat what is best for us? yet you believe that we should let corporations mandate what is best for us, and enforce it by government edict. Tort reform? so you want to limit lawyer's pay by government action, limit their ability to make a profit through goverrnment law? Realy? how exactly is that keeping government out of our lives?

Guns Good, regulations on food, water,air, products, practices, bad. You want to limit government to the point that it cannot limit the abuses of commerce and big business, big business that has signaled quite obviously that America is not as important as it's own bottom line.

I have yet to see evidence otherwise. To you and yours, the abuses of free enterprise is just the way things should be and somehow that constitutes "freedom". But poisoned air and water, corporations taking at any cost, people suffering in the interest of "freedom" is not, in any way, how things should be. The very disparity between rich and poor lays your philosophy bare and you seem to believe that somewhere within that sort of tyranny lies liberty.
 
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