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Short path distillation vs butane extraction or QWET?

Discussion in 'Concentrates and Extracts' started by MikeGanja, Nov 16, 2016.

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    thump easy

    thump easy Well-Known Member

    I have found erors in the across international 5 litter they also lie about next day delivery i payed 730.00$ for next day more like next week regular shiping also broke the head because the round bottom flask was to big to fit the mantal you gota sqeez it in there and ther is no play in it and the bottom sits about an inch from resting on the bottom. The neck broke by putting stress on the head with dry ice..i lifted the cow with a little bit of strain so it sits on dry ice since the round bottom flask was wedged in there it had no play!!!- thus stress ing the head. Bad for me... Also the send no grease they sead turn key more like fuck me!!! received_903296316501116.jpeg be carefull i also complained about next day delivery they were like owell real talk im curently talking to a glass blower who can blow it for a a quarter of the price the hole unit.. Fuck man what is america coming too.. I need quality.. And i want to pay what they claim!!! Were is the quality control.. Also bogart sent me off 35 grand unit the hoses were faulty and the valves leak the hoses replaced but again stuck in bumb fucked egypt and still gota take a day to go run shit down... No more i cant take this shit no more should i start putting a name out there and start putting units together better and cheaper???? I sound like an old prune but fuck man its serious what the fuck money doesnt grow on trees!!! Or its not easy growing money there more to it than that!!!!
     
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    Deisenhofer

    Deisenhofer New Member

    I know this is an old thread, but I have a few questions. I’m making tailored medicine for cancer patients. Every compound in the mix will be separated and analyzed by NMR. No mystery material can be tolerated.

    Based on your thread, Im assuming you (gwpharms) know what an NMR is and that you likely have a PhD and you know a crapload more about this type of chemistry than I do at this point. Since NMR time is difficult for me to come by, I have some naive basic questions.

    There are probably more chemists in this forum as well that also could answer my naive inquiry. Thanks for any help.

    Pardon the technical questions

    1) Are you putting the Ethanol extract straight in the short path?

    2) At what vacuum are you distilling

    3) How many passes

    4) Does your product pass HPLC/NMR scrutiny or do you have mystery compounds? (The peaks from the other cannabinoids)

    5) If there are other compounds present do you know what they are?

    6) Does the material oxidize to give any off colors that would scare a patient? What is oxidizing

    Thanks
     
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    Jedb

    Jedb Member

    Damn that's terrible man... I've heard some other stories about AI, but this is definitely making me not want to use them... How long did it actually last you?
     
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    thump easy

    thump easy Well-Known Member

    About a month
     
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    Jedb

    Jedb Member

    Yikes... that's no good!! Sh***y... :/
     
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    g$420

    g$420 Active Member

    QQ on this if you’re still around ~ Do you shortpath the crude from your Soxhlet? If so how’s it turning out Terp wise I have a few set ups just have to mixed this combo yet figured I’d ask you running 10 of them ;)
     
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    gwpharms

    gwpharms Well-Known Member

    Crude is to crude to short path. To many compounds in there that will dirty up your fractions. I filter out the chlorophyll and other garbage through fine mesh activated carbon from wood ash and celite.this leaves me with oil that is 85% up to 90+% d9.
    hardly worth putting into short path unless we require a 98% thc or better. Not much other fractions left to collect other than thc.
    It all depends on what your running too of course. Good product yeilds good oil. Kief is great and requires less filtration which saves more terps.
    Some terps will survive the carbon filtration but not a full profile. And we get such a mix of different stuff running strain specific is really impractical to us. To Re introduce terps and custom engineer oil is just better, for me at least.
    We've taken to mixing our own flavor profiles with terps from non canna sources.
    But to answer your question, yes it does work with my cleaned up oil.
     
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    Fadedawg

    Fadedawg Well-Known Member

    Considering all that is extracted soxhleting, 85 to 90%+ d9 after just carbon filtration appears to be results from heaven. Did you have it tested and might you share the report?

    Does that mean that your short path yields those numbers as well?
     
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    gwpharms

    gwpharms Well-Known Member

    Heres a couple screen shots. I have to crop out most of it because my personal contact info is on there but you get the idea. This is my raw extract after filtration, not short path runs. I dont have any of those test results that i can screen shot and exclude my info
     

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    gwpharms

    gwpharms Well-Known Member

     
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    Deisenhofer

    Deisenhofer New Member

    I’ve never scaled a sohxlet extraction above lab scale (porphine). It’s an interesting avenue, considering it’s simplicity. Large scale tests?
     
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    Fadedawg

    Fadedawg Well-Known Member

    Do I infer your short path yield is 85 to 90%?
     
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    gwpharms

    gwpharms Well-Known Member

    Yes its interesting. There are better more modern ways and more simple ways but I like it
    Yes tests are from large scale
     
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    gwpharms

    gwpharms Well-Known Member

    Yes. If everything goes well
    If I put 100 grams 85% potent oil in there i would return 85grams of 99% oil
    Give or take, in a perfect world
     
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    Fadedawg

    Fadedawg Well-Known Member

    Congratulations! I believe you've set new records.
     
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    gwpharms

    gwpharms Well-Known Member

    Like I said, in a perfect world that would be the yeild.
    Im just not that good
     
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    Fadedawg

    Fadedawg Well-Known Member

    Don't feel bad. Probably only angels in Heaven are.
     

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