Shipping Container 40x8x8

Diabolical666

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u need to make shade for it

4 poles sunk into the ground .......then get a tarp and rope ......stretch it out and lace the rope tho sides accordion style ....then tie the ropes off to the poles and u can use a rope to pull it out and cover the top making shade or close it (just dig holes for the poles and pour in concrete to stabilize it ) and u should be good the wind will not take it and u have shade ......other choice is to buy a shade cover with holes in it to allow wind tho cost more just cheaper to replace tarp every few years

other trick is to use hay stack it like 3 or 4 feet on top of it then cover with white tarp pulling it down tight so have about 2 feet of a air bubble .......mr ken taught me that one
My lights are going off in an hr. I dont have many heat issues bc I run at night
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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The reefer unit generally uses propane, not diesel. They don't have the capacity to chill an active growroom.
Woah homie. It's been several years but, every reefer unit I ever pulled used Deisel. Ya filled it up when you filled up te truck. Willis Shaw bru. But, not saying you're wrong. Just saying I am not familiar with the units you speak of. Thanks as always for your contribution.

Edit. Capacity. Yes they do they are designed to keep ice cream and sea food at 20 below. Even in Texas. It's a bit overkill is why I threw out the chiller idear.
 

ttystikk

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Woah homie. It's been several years but, every reefer unit I ever pulled used Deisel. Ya filled it up when you filled up te truck. Willis Shaw bru. But, not saying you're wrong. Just saying I am not familiar with the units you speak of. Thanks as always for your contribution.

Edit. Capacity. Yes they do they are designed to keep ice cream and sea food at 20 below. Even in Texas. It's a bit overkill is why I threw out the chiller idear.
There's several types out there. Keeping something cold is a much different and smaller load than cooling equipment actively shedding Tons of heat.
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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There's several types out there. Keeping something cold is a much different and smaller load than cooling equipment actively shedding Tons of heat.
Ok. I came off the road in 2003. Back then all the trailers that I ever saw were diesel. I am sure there are other options. I also remember when the gas crisis happened I dunno, 07-08. And the buzz at that time was propane. There wasn't much infrastructure at that time to refuel your vehicle with propane or natural gas. Because natural gas is plentiful in the US. But, there was a big push to convert vehicles to the other sources of fuel. Tho, I am thinking they were gasoline. And build the infrastructure. Perhaps that happened. And I am just behind the times.

Anyway. The reason I used Texas as an example. Is because, yea true story. I was hauling a load of crab meat from Irvine to like Dallas in the heat of summer like 100 degrees outside. They do not fuck around when they accept a load of sea food. They not only look at the temp of the trailer thermo, they actually break down a pallet to the center and insert a thermometer to check the product. And it must be below like zero degrees. Why? Because in the summer heat like that you will burn a ton of Deisel. I mean refill even multiple times a day in a rare case. Do not let a reefer run dry. You have to know how to prime it to get it going again. Anyway, some owner operators might cheap out on fuel and just run it at 20 degrees to save on fuel. Ten bump it down to -20 when they get to the warehouse. Spoiled seafood ain't no joke. So, I am in Texas in the worst heat and my reefer is struggling. It crept up to like 1 degrees or something. I had to call in an emergency to have someone come out and fix it. Thankfully, they got there and fixed it and I had time to wait for delivery and it got cooled back down. Also they had little thermos in the boxes with like a max. So, if it got over tolerance in a 53 foot trailer with an ungodly amount of expensive crab would have had to be destroyed. Just saying.

Anyway capacity is not a concern here. It is the efficiency of the method and cost. I am telling you for sure that is not a concern. Perhaps propane and natural gas would be cheaper. I don't know. But, I would still go with a chiller myself. There are probably other efficient options as well tho. Including maybe propane.

Edit. The -20 was a fail safe. If you're reefer failed the product is -20 so it will share the cool throughout the trailer. Even the air which the reefer thermo measured the temp. So, the load itself cools the air around it. Gives you time to get someone to fix it before it spoils. Also in the winter, the reefer unit heats. Don't want you're beer to freeze now do ya? Yea I is real smart bro. lol.

Shipping container and a chiller. That's my final offer. Case closed. Luvs ya like a brother tho. :rolleyes:
 
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Lucky Luke

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May not help you but thought id share an interesting story from my neck of the woods.

2 guys (1 had a girlfriend) decided to do a shipping container grow. Growing is illegal here. So one guy (the guy with the girlfriend) buys a block of land. They hire an excavator and dig. They place 2 shipping containers side by side and connect them with a door or two. They then bury the containers and lay a concrete slab on top with a trap door. They then build a garage over the top of the slap.

Fantastic setup right? Was until the guy split with his girlfriend, who called the cops.
 

h.cordero

Member
Lots of good ideas thanks all!
The reefer container was my first thought but a working container with AC it's expensive, in my county the price of them is high! $3200 for a DRY 40' shipping container or $3500 for a 40' reefer container with a bad AC unit. Maybe I could go with a reefer container because of the great insulation they have and save big money there but not sure!
I got a quote from Surna for the equipment but size it to 8,000watts just to be safe and maybe an upgrade in the future.
5 Ton Chiller: $7,527 USD
5 Ton Air Handler: $2,575
1 Horse Power Flotec: $439
65 Gallon Reservoir, Plumbed and Insulation $475
Total $11,016

@Diabolical666 I search your username for your setup but couldn't find anything could show me some photos and info of your trailer grow

Thanks
 

Diabolical666

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Lots of good ideas thanks all!
The reefer container was my first thought but a working container with AC it's expensive, in my county the price of them is high! $3200 for a DRY 40' shipping container or $3500 for a 40' reefer container with a bad AC unit. Maybe I could go with a reefer container because of the great insulation they have and save big money there but not sure!
I got a quote from Surna for the equipment but size it to 8,000watts just to be safe and maybe an upgrade in the future.
5 Ton Chiller: $7,527 USD
5 Ton Air Handler: $2,575
1 Horse Power Flotec: $439
65 Gallon Reservoir, Plumbed and Insulation $475
Total $11,016

@Diabolical666 I search your username for your setup but couldn't find anything could show me some photos and info of your trailer grow

Thanks
The only area in the cont thats working is the flower area. The veg is all outside in the greenhouse atm. So Im using veg area as a catch all and storage, so its kinda messy. I will have it all sorted in a few months and filled up. That will be a better prospective.
Also will be adding more insulation to veg area for the winter mths
 

ttystikk

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Lots of good ideas thanks all!
The reefer container was my first thought but a working container with AC it's expensive, in my county the price of them is high! $3200 for a DRY 40' shipping container or $3500 for a 40' reefer container with a bad AC unit. Maybe I could go with a reefer container because of the great insulation they have and save big money there but not sure!
I got a quote from Surna for the equipment but size it to 8,000watts just to be safe and maybe an upgrade in the future.
5 Ton Chiller: $7,527 USD
5 Ton Air Handler: $2,575
1 Horse Power Flotec: $439
65 Gallon Reservoir, Plumbed and Insulation $475
Total $11,016

@Diabolical666 I search your username for your setup but couldn't find anything could show me some photos and info of your trailer grow

Thanks
Chillking is a much better company.
 

abe supercro

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...the top is galvanized, it will burn your hands to touch it after an hr in the sun. Lots of insulation,
Shipping containers usually have holes top and bottom at each corner. Use that to attach the poles to hold the tarp above the container. Like the camo cover idea.
I'd think any type of cover or shade covering would go a long way to deflecting and minimizing the radiate heat from the sun.
 

fandango

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I worked on a growers ref trailer the past month or so.We (me)hooked up an Ideal mini split 3 ton heat pump.
He ran 6 hps lights(with ducting)and a dehuey+4 burner co2
8-9 bags per lite,coco mix.
A good producer.
 

ttystikk

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Idk man, that just screams grow room. I can get away with just setting it out on my property and it looking like a storage unit or a workshop. Lots of ppl around here have them for that. My exhaust and intake points are kinda hidden
It also says smart owner likes to keep her shop cool.
 

ttystikk

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" hey there, nice container...why such a massive ac unit ya got thar" kekkeke
I'm wondering if a 'shed' nearby with the unit hidden inside might be an option?

If it's a critical issue, it's possible to put the AC unit inside the container and make vent holes for air exchange.

Water chilling allows for water lines to go a sizeable distance, allowing you to put the chiller next to your house perhaps, or at least someplace less conspicuous.

Just brainstorming, none of these ideas might be the right solution for your circumstances.
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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We would like to see a build out whatever you do OP. Not that I would go that big but, just cause guys like to see others build stuff.
 

h.cordero

Member
I worked on a growers ref trailer the past month or so.We (me)hooked up an Ideal mini split 3 ton heat pump.
He ran 6 hps lights(with ducting)and a dehuey+4 burner co2
8-9 bags per lite,coco mix.
A good producer.
Don't have a picture to se how there setup.
 

h.cordero

Member
I'm wondering if a 'shed' nearby with the unit hidden inside might be an option?

If it's a critical issue, it's possible to put the AC unit inside the container and make vent holes for air exchange.

Water chilling allows for water lines to go a sizeable distance, allowing you to put the chiller next to your house perhaps, or at least someplace less conspicuous.

Just brainstorming, none of these ideas might be the right solution for your circumstances.
That's a really good idea of the shed or some type of encloser! Maybe I could build a dog house like and put the chiller inside jeje
 

ttystikk

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From what I understand they bond with chillking.
No. Two very different companies and ChillKing is tired of 'bad service Surna' trying to ride their coattails, there was even a cease and desist letter.

Surna is a scam outfit. They want to over charge you for rebranded widely available equipment, then ignore your phone calls when their cheap ass junk fails. No surprise they want to confuse themselves with a more reputable company.

You want a company that builds quality shit and then stands behind it, call Chillking and tell them I sent you.
 
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