Sherbet clones

Smok3yMcChok3y said:

But where the disconnect here for me is how could removing material ever, in any way, aid a plant in building mass? Yes you are no longer growing the lower branches. But it's not like the top branches will get larger as a result. The plant is going to only ever be as big and beautiful as environment allows.
Removing branches and especially foliage will not in any way make any other branch better/larger/more dense. Unless removing those branches changes the environment. Ie adding air flow or allowing better light penetration. It's got absolutely nothing to do with plant biology though.

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Friends, just Google ''auxin" then we can all understand apical dominance etc. in peace and harmony.

We are all growers United by this forum, here to help each other out if there are any specific questions, we should all feel welcome to share them imo. Happy growing!

4(207) said:

Friends, just Google ''auxin" then we can all understand apical dominance etc. in peace and harmony.

We are all growers United by this forum, here to help each other out if there are any specific questions, we should all feel welcome to share them imo. Happy growing!

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That's nice and all but not particularly relevant to the issue of defoliation. I'm certain everyone is aware that if you trim a new growth end it stops the production of auxin and allows for other branches to thicken due to the increased "bandwidth" (for lack of a better term) of transport of auxin from minor branches. That's why we top. Cutting leaves off will not effect auxin production or transport in any meaningful way.

Smok3yMcChok3y said:

That's nice and all but not particularly relevant to the issue of defoliation. I'm certain everyone is aware that if you trim a new growth end it stops the production of auxin and allows for other branches to thicken due to the increased "bandwidth" (for lack of a better term) of transport of auxin from minor branches. That's why we top. Cutting leaves off will not effect auxin production or transport in any meaningful way.

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Perhaps there's a misunderstanding. If you remove lower branches, you will allow for larger tops, just like you would alternately get bigger side branching by topping. Hope this helps people to understand more clearly.

If you question the science, please just educate yourself. As for the separate topic of defoliation, I am not interested in a debate, because I have already studied this and feel very comfortable with the facts.

Some strains can actually benefit from defoliation but many can't. Even with an ideal strain, it is only in perfect situations that a harsh and consistent defoliation will be beneficial. As for auxins not being affected by the intense pruning of fan leaves on the top of a plant... Try it yourself before claiming it doesn't mess with auxins... Because friend, I have already done that test years ago. It worked similarly to topping. More stressful and a bad idea yes, but it divided growth hormones to other, consequently lower branches that were unmolested.

It was consistent with science!

Imagine that

Peace and positivity to you all.

4(207) said:

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Perhaps there's a misunderstanding. If you remove lower branches, you will allow for larger tops, just like you would alternately get bigger side branching by topping. Hope this helps people to understand more clearly.

If you question the science, please just educate yourself. As for the separate topic of defoliation, I am not interested in a debate, because I have already studied this and feel very comfortable with the facts.

Some strains can actually benefit from defoliation but many can't. Even with an ideal strain, it is only in perfect situations that a harsh and consistent defoliation will be beneficial. As for auxins not being affected by the intense pruning of fan leaves on the top of a plant... Try it yourself before claiming it doesn't mess with auxins... Because friend, I have already done that test years ago. It worked similarly to topping. More stressful and a bad idea yes, but it divided growth hormones to other, consequently lower branches that were unmolested.

It was consistent with science!

Imagine that

Peace and positivity to you all.

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I'll respectfully disagree with you in regards to your assertion of larger tops from cutting off lower branches. I have in fact educated myself and would challenge you to do the same.
As for your testing of auxin release that's nice. I would never argue that altering new growth doesn't change auxin transport availability. You're just correlating two or more interconnected variables and not really showing verifiable causal relationships. I'll stick with the hundreds of studies written in reputable publications on the topic.
Cheers bud