Shatter E-CIG Oil, Yes, it works!

Eric M

Member
Sounds like you got this down pat...What ratio are you mixing at and how much flavor are you adding? Any problem with your tank clogging? How does it hold up in the tank over time? I think Im going to give this a try. Seem like this could be a huge revolution to consume extracts if its a convenient as consuming ejuice.

These guys clam to be mixing at a 1:1 ratio
try the open vave bud touch cartridges they are mede for this
you can get them from open vape for 10.00 a cartridge no bulk orders
or go on ebay and search bud touch vaporizer cartridge they are cheaper there
you can put co2 oil right in them or a mix of peg and concentrate
 

Eric M

Member
it felt like a power surge hit my penis when charface verified, so id like to verify as well..

I made mine a little strong: 0.5 g shatter into about 1.5 ml PEG USP 400 kosherrr. Did not use a thermometer, used a shot glass, sauce pan, gas oven, and stirring stick. I put two inches of already hot water in the pan with my shotglass of PEG, allowed the PEG to reach the heat of the hot water, then turned on the burner as low as possible without going out. Took about 10 mins to get the shatter melted and the mixture uniform. I stirred it even more for a few minutes extra, let it cool for 5-10, loaded it into a cleaned cartridge and wallah. 4-5 good draws and I'm garfielded out. Thank you folks who shared all the information here.
glad to help
happy vapeing
 

Grow Goddess

Well-Known Member
I forgot to mention. No, it is not as convenient as consuming e-juice. I does have its benefits, but also has its downside. It depends on the individual and the quality of oil.

Convenience, conservative, best bang for your buck, eating the decarbed concentrated cannabis oil. That is if you can handle being buzzed 24/7. 12 hours per dose if not 24 depending on the quality and type.

It has been 4 years straight for me! Excluding days off for experimental reasons. :mrgreen:

Ingesting decarbed concentrates is by far the most efficient way to stay medicated 24/7.

My favorite decarbed oil is what I call ND Sap (naturally decarbed sap). When I stop taking it, my buzz continued for over 3 days! RSO, it was about a day and a half when I didn't feel the effects. We are talking one or two drops per day. That is with me making the oil the highest possible quality I am capable of making.
 

skepler

Well-Known Member
I forgot to mention. No, it is not as convenient as consuming e-juice. I does have its benefits, but also has its downside. It depends on the individual and the quality of oil.

Convenience, conservative, best bang for your buck, eating the decarbed concentrated cannabis oil. That is if you can handle being buzzed 24/7. 12 hours per dose if not 24 depending on the quality and type.

It has been 4 years straight for me! Excluding days off for experimental reasons. :mrgreen:

Ingesting decarbed concentrates is by far the most efficient way to stay medicated 24/7.

My favorite decarbed oil is what I call ND Sap (naturally decarbed sap). When I stop taking it, my buzz continued for over 3 days! RSO, it was about a day and a half when I didn't feel the effects. We are talking one or two drops per day. That is with me making the oil the highest possible quality I am capable of making.
What is your ND sap mixed with to make a liquid? What ratio? I think I read you mentioning that your natural decarbing occurs over some span of time, what are specifying that as, and what state is your extract in during this process? Thanks
 

Grow Goddess

Well-Known Member
What is your ND sap mixed with to make a liquid? What ratio? I think I read you mentioning that your natural decarbing occurs over some span of time, what are specifying that as, and what state is your extract in during this process? Thanks
The whole process is on my blog at another site. To respect this site, here is the name of my blog. RSO, QWISO, QWET, and Naturally Decarbed Sap, Concentrates - By: Grow Goddess

In this picture, it was QWISO hash kept somewhat at a liquidy state, then winterized with 192 proof polish vodka. After evaporating I did have to add a bit of the 192 proof vodka to it so the dropper would be capable of sucking it up. Also to dilute it because it was so strong. One drop was a bit too much.
ND Sap 7-28-14 023.jpg

So far it appears with the QWET all organic, it is a little less potent, about half compared to the winterized QWISO. However, I truly believe the QWET, naturally decarbed, has more medicinal properties. Just my opinion though.

The time for the natural decarb has ranged from 90 to 120 days. I recommend only filling the vials half full. During the decarbing process it seems to build up some pressure. Almost like CO2, it bubbles like shaking a pop can.
 

skepler

Well-Known Member
Thank you Grow Godess, and for your link. I had another link but it didn't reveal the full scope of your postings, seen by many as a welcome contribution I'm sure.
 
decarb does not start till 170 F up to 240F thc melts at 140F does not boil or vape till 392F
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/thc_data_sheet.shtml

i have been doing this for years / i used to just put bho in joints for an extra kick
decarb does not start till 170 F up to 240F thc melts at 140F does not boil or vape till 392F
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/thc_data_sheet.shtml

i have been doing this for years / i used to just put bho in joints for an extra kick
BS!! I have a vape and I use flowers at 320 and it works great
392 is way hot period.
 

sfvbudlover

New Member
Hi Everybody!

I am new to this thread, just found it last weekend, and read it twice, like the other 5 threads I have found online on DIY vape-oil.

I just started vaping oil this past July so I wouldn't wreak due to smoking bud. Of course 2 months ago I started doing my DIY research because I want to vape oil with less expense, plus, when you buy prefilled cartomizers, or refill syringes, MHO is that
you never know exactly how much thc you are actually paying for (and sometimes getting ripped off) until you vape the product.

After buying vg at WF and ordering PG online (per all the threads, I ordered 3 bottles of The Rite Stuff on Thursday and should get it by Tuesday. So I shall be buying some shatter in next few days at a med dispensary. All I need is 2 shot glasses and I should be set.

After reading about the some of the med history and cause of the guy who sells the rite stuff on ebay, I will continue to buy from him as long as I can afford it because I've done hours of research regarding 911.

The only thing I haven't read yet is GG's blog. I am totally impressed and am greatfull for all the info you all have shared with us. I still got a load of questions and will ask them over time.

1. My current ? is, when I meltdown the shatter and heat up the rite stuff in sep shot glasses at 140F, should I heat them both up for 10 min in saucepan of water while stirring both continuously and then ad the rite stuff to the liquid shatter, continue stirring for a few min until they are thoroughly mixed, and let it cool down before I add put approx 1 ml in my cartomizer and the rest back in the rite stuff bottle?
 

Grow Goddess

Well-Known Member
Hi Everybody!

I am new to this thread, just found it last weekend, and read it twice, like the other 5 threads I have found online on DIY vape-oil.

I just started vaping oil this past July so I wouldn't wreak due to smoking bud. Of course 2 months ago I started doing my DIY research because I want to vape oil with less expense, plus, when you buy prefilled cartomizers, or refill syringes, MHO is that
you never know exactly how much thc you are actually paying for (and sometimes getting ripped off) until you vape the product.

After buying vg at WF and ordering PG online (per all the threads, I ordered 3 bottles of The Rite Stuff on Thursday and should get it by Tuesday. So I shall be buying some shatter in next few days at a med dispensary. All I need is 2 shot glasses and I should be set.

After reading about the some of the med history and cause of the guy who sells the rite stuff on ebay, I will continue to buy from him as long as I can afford it because I've done hours of research regarding 911.

The only thing I haven't read yet is GG's blog. I am totally impressed and am greatfull for all the info you all have shared with us. I still got a load of questions and will ask them over time.

1. My current ? is, when I meltdown the shatter and heat up the rite stuff in sep shot glasses at 140F, should I heat them both up for 10 min in saucepan of water while stirring both continuously and then ad the rite stuff to the liquid shatter, continue stirring for a few min until they are thoroughly mixed, and let it cool down before I add put approx 1 ml in my cartomizer and the rest back in the rite stuff bottle?
I don't think that is the blog you want to read. It is worth looking at though.

PM sent
 

sfvbudlover

New Member
Hi Guys and Gals:

Guess I got shattered yesterday!!!!!

success, success, success, success
Does it matter? (Shattered)

I did my first cook yesterday and both Walter and Jesse showed up and of course Walter wanted to add blue to the mix and Jesse wanted to add hot sauce!

It went well...first I bought 4 skull shot GLASSES at Bevmo for 12 out the door, which have fairly thick bottoms....and of course I tested one on my test run to make sure it didn't SHATTER.....Does it Matter!

I used an electric cook plate from 2 years ago and bought a food thermo at WM for maybe 8 George Washingtons....

So I put about a 1/2" of water in a sauce pan, and put the sauce pan on the electric stove and heated up the water to 140 and kept it there as best I could.....added the shot glasses filled with the right stuff......5ml, 5ml, and 2 1/2 ml in shot glasses, and put them in the water, heated it all up for about 6-8 minutoes added the shatter

[2.5grs of shatter.....1/2 G of Axium(related to chemdawg)....wasn't amber glass, but the next 2 were; 1 g of Skywalker, which turned out cloudier than the other 2; 1 g of purple thai, which tasted better than the other 2...hardly noticed the burnt tasted at all.]

to trs and 3-4 min later they were pretty much dissolved as I continued stirring each one and after 2-4 mo min...Walla Walla Bing Bang..... they were done cooking and so was I and it really didn't take long for them to cool as it seemed the glasses never got real hot at the top of them....tried them last night....pretty cappy hamper here!

Everything is looking up! Should have my organic flavors here in two days!

Today, it seemed like I did not cough hardly at all when vaping the diy/trs/shatter cocktail....next time I am going use 1g: 4.5 ml and not 5 just to see if the peg400 will absorb the full g of shatter!

This certainly is a whole lotta love cheaper than robbing martians, which I used to do when my father sent me away one summer in high school!

Guys and Gals...we need to keep this thread moving forward!

Anyone soak ground bud or nugs in PEG400 for 120 days yet to find out if it improved your trips to Jupiter or Uranus?

Anyone try a few drops of Green Dragon mixed with their RITE STUFF concoction?

I believe I read where 1 or 2 of you have mixed RSO and PEG400 with success? Yes? No? Anyone have any luck mixing budder or wax or crumble or whatever with PEG (without it making a big smell), please let us all know!

Anyone believe in Planet X?

I bought 3 ismoka mini bcc's which I am currently using. Is there something I need to do to keep my tank and battery less sticky, esp when using a mini bcc?

Soon I will try the double coil mini that Grow Goddess uses!

My thanks to everyone on this thread and if you were on the other 6 threads i have read originating in the Milky Way!

P.S. Mars Bars to you all!

P.S.S. Get Shattered----------------------->

 
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Cotelio

Member
I got the PEG400 NF/USP from Texlab Supply, and I mixed 20ml with an eigth of OG kush,,, Gave it a warm water bath of 160 for half an hour and strained, bright green juice and tasted great, but it doesnt vape very wekk, in fact the juice gets hot enough that the cotton burns and it dries out my mouth a ton... I made a wickless build but it runs real hot and still doesn't vapoe amazingly. Guess I screwed up, figured it would work sinceI had some sucess in the past doing that with VG for edibles...
 

GrowinDad

Well-Known Member
Cotelio, you need to turn the bud into oil first. But an eighth is not enough for 20ml of base. I use about 3 ml of base per oz of bud.
 

VAPEMAKER

New Member
try the open vave bud touch cartridges they are mede for this
you can get them from open vape for 10.00 a cartridge no bulk orders
or go on ebay and search bud touch vaporizer cartridge they are cheaper there
you can put co2 oil right in them or a mix of peg and concentrate
Ebay is removing most e cig stuff i found anniesvapes dot com to get canisters and supplies
 

VAPEMAKER

New Member
Hi Guys and Gals:

Guess I got shattered yesterday!!!!!

success, success, success, success
Does it matter? (Shattered)

I did my first cook yesterday and both Walter and Jesse showed up and of course Walter wanted to add blue to the mix and Jesse wanted to add hot sauce!

It went well...first I bought 4 skull shot GLASSES at Bevmo for 12 out the door, which have fairly thick bottoms....and of course I tested one on my test run to make sure it didn't SHATTER.....Does it Matter!

I used an electric cook plate from 2 years ago and bought a food thermo at WM for maybe 8 George Washingtons....

So I put about a 1/2" of water in a sauce pan, and put the sauce pan on the electric stove and heated up the water to 140 and kept it there as best I could.....added the shot glasses filled with the right stuff......5ml, 5ml, and 2 1/2 ml in shot glasses, and put them in the water, heated it all up for about 6-8 minutoes added the shatter

[2.5grs of shatter.....1/2 G of Axium(related to chemdawg)....wasn't amber glass, but the next 2 were; 1 g of Skywalker, which turned out cloudier than the other 2; 1 g of purple thai, which tasted better than the other 2...hardly noticed the burnt tasted at all.]

to trs and 3-4 min later they were pretty much dissolved as I continued stirring each one and after 2-4 mo min...Walla Walla Bing Bang..... they were done cooking and so was I and it really didn't take long for them to cool as it seemed the glasses never got real hot at the top of them....tried them last night....pretty cappy hamper here!

Everything is looking up! Should have my organic flavors here in two days!

Today, it seemed like I did not cough hardly at all when vaping the diy/trs/shatter cocktail....next time I am going use 1g: 4.5 ml and not 5 just to see if the peg400 will absorb the full g of shatter!

This certainly is a whole lotta love cheaper than robbing martians, which I used to do when my father sent me away one summer in high school!

Guys and Gals...we need to keep this thread moving forward!

Anyone soak ground bud or nugs in PEG400 for 120 days yet to find out if it improved your trips to Jupiter or Uranus?

Anyone try a few drops of Green Dragon mixed with their RITE STUFF concoction?

I believe I read where 1 or 2 of you have mixed RSO and PEG400 with success? Yes? No? Anyone have any luck mixing budder or wax or crumble or whatever with PEG (without it making a big smell), please let us all know!

Anyone believe in Planet X?

I bought 3 ismoka mini bcc's which I am currently using. Is there something I need to do to keep my tank and battery less sticky, esp when using a mini bcc?

Soon I will try the double coil mini that Grow Goddess uses!

My thanks to everyone on this thread and if you were on the other 6 threads i have read originating in the Milky Way!

P.S. Mars Bars to you all!

P.S.S. Get Shattered----------------------->

 

VAPEMAKER

New Member
thanks for your purchase of the rite stuff , I made it available in larger bottles cheaper, to be honest after , other supplies are on anniesvapes dot com , E bay is stopping all e-cig related stuff. not trying to get free add but everything you need is all together at www.anniesvapes.com / ( I was a 9/11/01 First responder and money from site goes to help pay my medical expences incurred from my 9/11 injuries /// i am the guy Eric M speaks of//// to the admins google me or go on youtube,,, I am just trying to help people here //
 

VAPEMAKER

New Member
Hi Everybody!

I am new to this thread, just found it last weekend, and read it twice, like the other 5 threads I have found online on DIY vape-oil.

I just started vaping oil this past July so I wouldn't wreak due to smoking bud. Of course 2 months ago I started doing my DIY research because I want to vape oil with less expense, plus, when you buy prefilled cartomizers, or refill syringes, MHO is that
you never know exactly how much thc you are actually paying for (and sometimes getting ripped off) until you vape the product.

After buying vg at WF and ordering PG online (per all the threads, I ordered 3 bottles of The Rite Stuff on Thursday and should get it by Tuesday. So I shall be buying some shatter in next few days at a med dispensary. All I need is 2 shot glasses and I should be set.

After reading about the some of the med history and cause of the guy who sells the rite stuff on ebay, I will continue to buy from him as long as I can afford it because I've done hours of research regarding 911.

The only thing I haven't read yet is GG's blog. I am totally impressed and am greatfull for all the info you all have shared with us. I still got a load of questions and will ask them over time.

1. My current ? is, when I meltdown the shatter and heat up the rite stuff in sep shot glasses at 140F, should I heat them both up for 10 min in saucepan of water while stirring both continuously and then ad the rite stuff to the liquid shatter, continue stirring for a few min until they are thoroughly mixed, and let it cool down before I add put approx 1 ml in my cartomizer and the rest back in the rite stuff bottle?
hi you dont have to stir The Rite stuff untill you mx it you can thin it around 50/50 with good shattered, and you have it right about putting the rest back in bottle. experiment with thickness .. i have openvape canisters that work real good for thick blends, at anniesvapes dot com i prefer the .6 ml and refill it so all the oil does not have to keep getting reheated ,,, and syringes for mixing along with any thing else you need for this
ps thanks for buying the right stuff it is greatly appreciated if you email annie@anniesvapes and mention this post i will give you a better price on THE Right Stuff PEG 400 USP
 

VAPEMAKER

New Member
I would like to say Thank You to Eric M for bringing my findings to this site,, and no i am not mad yo told every body THE RITE STUFF is PEG 400 USP I did list that in details on The E-Bay, I am not taking credit for Figuring this out alone ,, but i put alot of time and money into getting this RITE,, it doesnt seem hard now that its done but isnt that how it always is after someone figures it out it becomes standard method,,,thanks for everyone who took the time to confirm my results,, using The rite stuff or tex labs PEG , I am glad to see such success ,,,,now whats next
 

VAPEMAKER

New Member
I got the PEG400 NF/USP from Texlab Supply, and I mixed 20ml with an eigth of OG kush,,, Gave it a warm water bath of 160 for half an hour and strained, bright green juice and tasted great, but it doesnt vape very wekk, in fact the juice gets hot enough that the cotton burns and it dries out my mouth a ton... I made a wickless build but it runs real hot and still doesn't vapoe amazingly. Guess I screwed up, figured it would work sinceI had some sucess in the past doing that with VG for edibles...
you have to use concentrate with the peg400 or else,,wait there is no real or else,, you would have to put 5ml in a 1/4 it would barely wet it,, then you would need a hydraulic press to get it back out
 
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