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PCXV

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So, to cure Jim Crow laws which were just a masked form of slavery, why not just remove the idea that other people can control who a person does or does not associate with and let the individuals involved decide?

How do you cure violence by changing which person you are threatening ?
The short answer is that you can't take culture out of the equation. The culture was in opposition to objective morality. The Constitution addresses the concerns of majority and minority tyranny.
 

Rob Roy

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The short answer is that you can't take culture out of the equation. The culture was in opposition to objective morality. The Constitution addresses the concerns of majority and minority tyranny.
So, if a culture features throwing virgins into a volcano to make the crops grow, and a piece of paper like the Constitution allows slavery, everything should remain as it is? It then becomes okay to force people to do things even if those people are leaving you alone?

The constitution has no more authority than a coloring book (if people claimed a coloring book was an "official document") , in that neither have been agreed to by the people that either document would claim to have authority over. Have you read Lysander Spooners essay regarding the constitution?
 

PCXV

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So, if a culture features throwing virgins into a volcano to make the crops grow, and a piece of paper like the Constitution allows slavery, everything should remain as it is? It then becomes okay to force people to do things even if those people are leaving you alone?

The constitution has no more authority than a coloring book (if people claimed a coloring book was an "official document") , in that neither have been agreed to by the people that either document would claim to have authority over. Have you read Lysander Spooners essay regarding the constitution?
The culture is what it is, and usually the law simply reflects that. The Constitution allows for changing the laws. If you find some law immoral convince people to vote to change it. Pretty simple.

By maintaining citizenship you have a say in laws but you are also bound to them. The authority of the Constitution comes directly from the people.
 

Rob Roy

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The culture is what it is, and usually the law simply reflects that. The Constitution allows for changing the laws. If you find some law immoral convince people to vote to change it. Pretty simple.

By maintaining citizenship you have a say in laws but you are also bound to them. The authority of the Constitution comes directly from the people.

If you found some law immoral, would you continue to follow it ? If it were illegal to feed hungry homeless people and you felt that was what you wanted to do, would you still obey that kind of stupid fucking law? I wouldn't. Fuck that.

No, the authority of the constitution DOES NOT come directly from this thing you refer to as "the people". That is a fairy tale. That is a fallacious faith based point of view having no basis in reality which has been foisted on people that a thing, put together hundreds of years ago, by a very small percentage of the existing people, can somehow rule people hundreds of years later who never agreed to any of it. Can you refute that is what occurred? No, you cannot.

I doubt you will even answer my questions, and you certainly won't be able to prove your constitution blathering.
 
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